Mosley's comments... NFC East draft analysis

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NFC East draft analysis


NEW YORK -- At one point Friday, it sounded like the Eagles and Giants were once again hot and heavy for Cardinals wide receiver Anquan Boldin. But that story flickered out quickly and both teams focused on building through the draft. On Day 1, it was only a three-team division. The Cowboys had the No. 51 pick, but things moved too quickly for them and they were frustrated when center Max Unger came off the board several spots ahead of their pick.

Instead of staying at 51 and picking Oklahoma offensive tackle Phil Loadholt, the Cowboys moved out of the second round and added a couple of Day 2 picks.

The Commanders may have been interested in Mark Sanchez, but they were thrilled to end up with Texas defensive end Brian Orakpo. He was one of the most disruptive players in the Big 12 and he should flourish playing next to defensive tackle Albert Haynesworth. In a draft where the Commanders didn't have much ammunition, Orakpo should give the team a boost. And I honestly think most people at Commanders Park (maybe not Dan Snyder) are relieved that Jason Campbell will quarterback the team for another season. Call me crazy, but I'd like to see what he can do in the second season of the Jim Zorn era.

The Eagles moved up to select Jeremy Maclin.
Best move: I thought taking Orakpo was a no-brainer and the Giants took the best wide receiver left on the board with North Carolina's Hakeem Nicks. But the best move of Day 1 certainly came when the Eagles moved up a couple of spots to take Missouri wide receiver Jeremy Maclin. When a player of Maclin's skill level starts to slip (thanks to people like Oakland's Al Davis), you have to take advantage of the situation. Everyone assumed the Eagles would take a running back in the first round, but that was never the case. If Knowshon Moreno had slipped to No. 21, you go ahead and take him. But he was long gone. The Eagles patiently waited until the second round, when they grabbed Pittsburgh running back LeSean McCoy, a perfect fit for their offense. They need an instinctive runner and that's McCoy's best trait. He should prosper in a zone-blocking scheme.

Riskiest move: I didn't see any particularly risky picks in the first couple rounds. I guess you could say it was risky for the Cowboys to forfeit their only Day 1 pick. But for a risky pick, let's look at the Giants going after Cal Poly wide receiver Ramses Barden in the third round. It's always interesting to see division rivals trade with each other. The Eagles traded out of the No. 85 slot to allow the Giants to move up and take Barden. He put up amazing numbers at Cal Poly and you have to love his size (6-6, 229), but he didn't play against elite competition. At the Senior Bowl, he really struggled getting off the line of scrimmage against press coverage. He might end up being a nice red-zone threat, but I was just a little surprised to see the Giants go after him that early in the draft -- especially after taking Nicks. To me, the Barden selection speaks volumes about how the club feels about Sinorice Moss and Mario Manningham. I know we keep reading about Manningham's progress, but I still have my doubts about him.

Most surprising move: I thought Jerry Jones was providing comic relief Sunday when he drafted a kicker in the fifth round. USC kicker David Buehler might be the best kicker in the draft, but the Cowboys just happen to have one of the top kickers in the league in Nick Folk. Did they actually want to create some competition in training camp? Honestly, this felt like a throwaway pick to me. Maybe the Cowboys think someone will get desperate before the season and trade a third-rounder for Buehler. But that's a real stretch. Of all the baffling things that Jones did in this draft, put the Buehler pick at the top.

File it away: I'll give you a couple to file away. I think the Eagles got tremendous value with Florida tight end Cornelius Ingram. Yes, I know he missed the entire 2008 season, but he's the type of threat that gives Donovan McNabb another option in the red zone. Ingram was No. 59 on draft guru Rick "Goose" Gosselin's top 100, which is passed around in personnel offices across the league.

He played basketball at Florida and we've seen some former ballers turn into pretty solid tight ends. Antonio Gates and Tony Gonzalez come to mind. I'm not saying this guy is going to the Pro Bowl in his first season. But in the fifth round, I think the Eagles did really well with Ingram.

The Giants took Sam Houston State quarterback Rhett Bomar in the fifth round. It's probably a sign that the Giants have already soured on Andre Woodson, their sixth-round pick from last season. I used to watch Bomar in high school in Grand Prairie, Texas, and he was on his way to being an excellent quarterback at Oklahoma before running into off-the-field issues. He has plenty of flaws, but I could see the Giants being a great fit for him. My bold prediction of the day is that Bomar will someday be used to land the Giants a second-round pick.
 

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Ingram may have to get surgery to fix his knee. mayock stated more than a few teams took him off the board because they feel his first surgery was botched and he may not regain the speed he had before. Risky pick, but he could pay off.
 

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So, trading out of the 2nd round is now the same as forefeiting your pick? Oh yeah... sorry... it is when you're a Dallas Cowboy...:rolleyes:

The Buehler pick is definitely a bit of a head-scratcher, but it's not like there wasn't any thought behind it. We have a lot of talent on our team, and it's not beyond the realm of possibility that we keep Buehler as solely a KO specialist. He definitely would've been drafted at some point, just who knows when? And where's all the ire for the teams who traded up for a punter? :confused:
 

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And to think Mosley passed up millions as an NFL GM to do this........................:rolleyes:
 

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54% of his kickoffs go for touchbacks. If you think about that for a second and you assume he can continue to do that in the NFL, there aren't alot of rookies at any position that can have an impact on a team more than that. I know kickers are a joke and all, but if he can come in and reduce the average starting position by 8-10 yards, that can have a hugh impact for the better on our defense. That alone is worth a roster and a game day spot in my book. In order to pull it off, you have to have some other player that can backup more than one spot. You need an OL that can play tackle and Guard or a DB that can play CB or safety. I think we just picked up a few guys like that.
 

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This pretty much proves what an idiot Mosely is, it never crossed his mind that they drafted Bueller to kickoff?
 

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RamziD;2751423 said:
So, trading out of the 2nd round is now the same as forefeiting your pick? Oh yeah... sorry... it is when you're a Dallas Cowboy...:rolleyes:

The Buehler pick is definitely a bit of a head-scratcher, but it's not like there wasn't any thought behind it. We have a lot of talent on our team, and it's not beyond the realm of possibility that we keep Buehler as solely a KO specialist. He definitely would've been drafted at some point, just who knows when? And where's all the ire for the teams who traded up for a punter? :confused:

Right but it's considered the greatest move of all time when Belicheat trades out of the first round. :rolleyes:
 

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Cowboys22;2751462 said:
54% of his kickoffs go for touchbacks. If you think about that for a second and you assume he can continue to do that in the NFL, there aren't alot of rookies at any position that can have an impact on a team more than that. I know kickers are a joke and all, but if he can come in and reduce the average starting position by 8-10 yards, that can have a hugh impact for the better on our defense. That alone is worth a roster and a game day spot in my book. In order to pull it off, you have to have some other player that can backup more than one spot. You need an OL that can play tackle and Guard or a DB that can play CB or safety. I think we just picked up a few guys like that.

Holland can also probably play T and G...seems like a lot of people here on the board forget about Holland!
 

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The Eagles might wish they had taken Pettigrew when DeMarcus Ware destroys that pretty, shiny, new left tackle.

The Florida guy isn't a good blocker. He was a good player when healthy.
 

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Would people stop with this idiotic The Media is Against Us nonsense? We took a kicker in the 5th round when we already have a Pro Bowler at the position. Its not bias to point out the ridiculous of it. If we would have taken good value picks the media would have been praising us, as they have in previous drafts when we got good value for our picks. When a 9-7 team who hasnt won a playoff game in 12 years outright admits theyre drafting special teamers and role players and takes these players 2 rounds early, youre going to get criticized. Im sure on Oaklands board there are plenty of posters claiming media bias and how the media is out to get them .... no, theyre not out to get you. You picked a late 1st/early 2nd rounder with the 7th pick in the draft. Thats why they are criticizing you. Its nothing personal, its just that your owner/GM is just clueless.
 

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InmanRoshi;2751952 said:
Would people stop with this idiotic The Media is Against Us nonsense? We took a kicker in the 5th round when we already have a Pro Bowler at the position. Its not bias to point out the ridiculous of it. If we would have taken good value picks the media would have been praising us, as they have in previous drafts when we got good value for our picks. When a 9-7 team who hasnt won a playoff game in 12 years outright admits theyre drafting special teamers and role players and takes these players 2 rounds early, youre going to get criticized. Im sure on Oaklands board there are plenty of posters claiming media bias and how the media is out to get them .... no, theyre not out to get you. You picked a late 1st/early 2nd rounder with the 7th pick in the draft. Thats why they are criticizing you. Its nothing personal, its just that your owner/GM is just clueless.

We have a Pro Bowl field goal kicker who sucked to a degree at kick-offs. He has zero touchbacks and led the NFL in penalties for kicking out of bounds.

Nick also had the 42nd ranked kick off yardage average. 42nd out of 32 teams.
 

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casmith07;2751768 said:
Holland can also probably play T and G...seems like a lot of people here on the board forget about Holland!


I know , I think Holland has a chance to play big for seveal years ,or be a very good backup,could let big Davis move to tackle in a pinch...;)
 
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