Mosley's draft comments today

41gy#;3917534 said:
Gosselin stated that Smith and Castonzo could be gone by 14. Furthermore, he stated that Tyron Smith was a real good pick at 9. He said if Dallas moves down, they probably will not get Smith.

Chris Mortenson stated on Twitter that Tyron Smith was worth the 9th pick (in response to someone calling him a reach at 9) and that Smith would have been a top 3-5 pick in the 2012 draft.

I heard this today from someone, and I'm going to look for it. The Titans head coach (a former offensive linemen) stated that he really liked Tyron Smith. Someone told me that Smith was one of the players discussed on the radio recently, and the Titans really like him. They (on the radio) stated that Smith is "rising".

While Smith is being talked down "by Mosley". Smith is being talked up by the Titans. It's interesting.

If your team has won one playoff game since 1996, you take the best player between Castonzo and Smith, and Smith is the best player. You should do that, anyway.

This is just another example of JERRY JONES being impatient and not taking the better player, which is Tyron Smith. Him "not being ready" isn't smart business and this stems back to Jerry. Any smart organization would take Smith over Castonzo.
 
TheSport78;3917695 said:
This is just another example of JERRY JONES being impatient and not taking the better player, which is Tyron Smith. Him "not being ready" isn't smart business and this stems back to Jerry. Any smart organization would take Smith over Castonzo.


Oh, so now we're definitely taking Castonzo? We're not trading up for Peterson? We're not taking Smith, even though every one says he's better? We're not trading down to get Smith/Carimi/Castonzo/Pouncey/Watt/Jordan/Shakalakamukamara/Sherrod and a 3rd/4th rounder? Well, I guess that's settled.
 
Here's Mosley's insider scoop from 45 minutes before last year's draft:

"OK, I'm hearing a ton of things on the Dallas Cowboys. A lot of folks have them doing whatever it takes to trade up for Dez Bryant. Well, they're not willing to do whatever it takes from what I'm hearing. If Bryant falls all the way to No. 27, Jerry Jones will be there to take him. Anything short of that, I don't think the Cowboys make a move."

"...it's more likely the Cowboys bail out on the pick and try to take South Florida safety Nate Allen early in the second. Also keep your eye on defensive end Tyson Alualu. The Cowboys love him, but they won't take him at No. 27. I think Rutgers cornerback Devin McCourty is also a good name at No. 27."
 
Picksix;3917710 said:
Oh, so now we're definitely taking Castonzo? We're not trading up for Peterson? We're not taking Smith, even though every one says he's better? We're not trading down to get Smith/Carimi/Castonzo/Pouncey/Watt/Jordan/Shakalakamukamara/Sherrod and a 3rd/4th rounder? Well, I guess that's settled.

:D No, but all I'm saying is, IF we take Castonzo over Smith, it would be a big mistake IMO.
 
TheSport78;3917713 said:
:D No, but all I'm saying is, IF we take Castonzo over Smith, it would be a big mistake IMO.

Oh I agree (for whatever that's worth). And I also understand it's hard to trust Jerry when it comes to drafting. I just know that there are so many publications out there, saying so many different things, that it's crazy, and there will be plenty of time to go nuts after the picks are actually made.

Thanks for being a good sport.
 
Sitting Bull;3917711 said:
I think Rutgers cornerback Devin McCourty is also a good name at No. 27."

He would have been a lovely pick as much as I like Dez, but that guy was a beast and our secondary was just bad even though I think Jenkins will get back to pro-bowl form and I hope we sign a safety in FA if not a second round pick.
 
BAT;3917702 said:
Castonzo is very underwhelming.

Nowhere near as underwhelming as the guy he'd be replacing.

He's a quality player with a great work ethic and high level of intelligence. he also showed a tremendous amiunt of flexibility at the Senior Bowl by lining up at 4 OL positions. More than one draft source has him rated as the top OL.

I still prefer Smith, but Constanzo is my #2 guy on the OL.
 
dbair1967;3917793 said:
Nowhere near as underwhelming as the guy he'd be replacing.

He's a quality player with a great work ethic and high level of intelligence. he also showed a tremendous amiunt of flexibility at the Senior Bowl by lining up at 4 OL positions. More than one draft source has him rated as the top OL.

I still prefer Smith, but Constanzo is my #2 guy on the OL.

Costanzo doesn't get much love on this board, but I think he's a top 2 (maybe top 1) OT on most teams draft board. I think he is probably the most NFL ready LT in this draft.

Like Smith, he fits the bill for what Dallas needs--an immediate starter at RT with the ability to be a swing tackle.

I still like Smith better. Ideally, we would take Costanzo in a trade down. But I'm not sure we'll be able to trade down for him as there is a strong possibility both Smith and Costanzo could be gone by pick 13.
 
Corleone;3917682 said:
So I assume he is ready to start at RT for us then If so, I'm all for that pcik.

Hey Corleone. Nice sig pick. I see we have similar taste.;)
 
I don't hate Constanzo I hate when they get cute move down and screw entire drafts to hell.
This is starting to have a 2009 feel to it. They need to take a breath and make a pick based on the best long term interests of the franchise screw next year.
If Quinn has a high grade draft him don't let Anthony Spencer's remaining year cost us a special player. If Peterson is graded as high as everyone says and is there at 5 make the deal. Now all of a second we need a right tackle that can play yesterday? What about last season when we cut Flozell to save money in an uncapped year rather than just flip he and Free?
Columbo said he was healthy and Ray Edwards destroyed him. He never should have started that game and after he did he definately should have never been handed the job in a year without financial constraints.
Now we are going to pass on a kid that could be a contributor on a line for over a decade and a half because someone is a bit more ready next year? You have got to be kidding me! We wouldn't take Fairley in the second? It would never be an issue but if we didn't I think I would kill Mosely just for being right. Jerry would be better served giving 5 members of this board a roll a dex a bunch of game tapes 200 bucks each and a cell phone and letting them vote on the picks.
It is scary that a team with our resources struggles like this.
 
sadevil;3917806 said:
Costanzo doesn't get much love on this board, but I think he's a top 2 (maybe top 1) OT on most teams draft board. I think he is probably the most NFL ready LT in this draft.

That is true, but is he the most talented? I feel pretty safe in saying that the Castonzo you saw in college is about as good as he is going to get.

It might be helpful in terms of him being ready to get on the field early and makes us feel more assured he could play right away in a season that rookies are going to need to be able to do that.

But what about years two, three, five, eight? Will he still be the ninth best player in this draft class? I strongly doubt. He is not even close to some of the better tackles that have been selected in recent years and in what I would consider a normal draft class, he is picked in the late twenties.
 
He is not a bad player but in the top ten you need impact and have a chance to get it. If you pass on a stud and trade down and blow one or both of the picks you have screwed up two or perhaps even three times.
 
reddyuta;3917375 said:
I hard to believe that we will pass on Fairley twice.I wouldnt be surprised if our scouts think that Costanzo is better than smith.

why? Fairley doesn't fit a 3-4. Your be drafting a player that will never play. Thats a waste of a pick. He is a 4-3 attacking DT and thats it.

Also Mosely makes sense for the Castanzo choice. He is more day one ready and we need to replace Colombo now. Now I would rather have Smith but Mosely makes a good point. I don't see why Jacksonville or Miami would trade up to 9. I can see Detriot at 13, St.Louis at 14, or Sand Diego at 18 wantting to get up to 9 but not Jacksonville or Miami.

If we trade back and get some good added picks and still land Smith or Castanzo then I say thats a good deal, but if we are at 9 then I want Smith.
 
tideh20heel;3917829 said:
They need to take a breath and make a pick based on the best long term interests of the franchise screw next year.

Given the comments Jones has made over the years, I find the chance of this happening very slim.

He passed on a WR for years saying they would never get on the field and took too long to develop.

Put that philosophy with the uncertain labor issues, I feel it is almost a lock we draft a 2011 ready player. Even if they have a lower upside.
 
I wish you were wrong about Jones but you are spot on. Very frustrating.Super we needed to replace Columbo last year too bad the GM blew that call.
 
Mosely listens around but is fed a lot as well. He is used to spread disinformation. If you were to read what he said a few days before the draft it was very different then what he said the DAY of the draft; that is because he got new information. That is why listening to any of these talking heads is a joke. They only know what they are told; and the motives for telling can be many.
 
Eh, while I agree that taking the lower-upside player is very dumb, and that I don't like Castonzo, let's not blame Jerry for this before the pick is even made. This could be a smokescreen, and Jerry has never been one to take the "safe" pick anyway. If I'm him, I'm thinking of the last time someone sold me on the safest, most NFL-ready player available and the blonde-headed all-time bust that resulted.
 
realtick;3917381 said:
I think Dallas may be falling in love by the fact they think they can utilize Castanzo at both OG and OT.

Doubt that - we've always been shy on playing guys in too many spots -- overloading a rookie by learning two positions just isn't our way either
 
sadevil;3917806 said:
Costanzo doesn't get much love on this board, but I think he's a top 2 (maybe top 1) OT on most teams draft board. I think he is probably the most NFL ready LT in this draft.

Like Smith, he fits the bill for what Dallas needs--an immediate starter at RT with the ability to be a swing tackle.

I still like Smith better. Ideally, we would take Costanzo in a trade down. But I'm not sure we'll be able to trade down for him as there is a strong possibility both Smith and Costanzo could be gone by pick 13.

Then take Carimi, Pouncey or a good player that slipped because the two tackles went early. We aren't locked into taking a tackle with that first pick, and Carimi the best run blocking tackle and the only one of the top rated tackles I saw that had a consistently impressive punch is both pass and run pro.
 
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