Most Cowboys Are Cut From The Same Cloth

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I applaud Garrett for going out and finding the kind of players with a strong work ethic, great intangibles, and quiet, bring your lunchpail, and get the job done.

However, when too many players fit that mold, there is no highly charged personality that becomes the team motivator. Pacing up and down the sidelines, firing up his team to fight during a seeming blowout and come back to win it all.

Yes, I'm thinking of Michael Irvin in the 90's, but there is a strong possibility that Dez could emerge as that kind of player if he matures a bit.

I also think Witten might find that kind of fire in his DNA and get this team going. Brooking seems to reserve his pep talks for before the game, not during.

Do you think there are players on the roster who will fit that mold? (If so, who???) Or do we need to find some?
 
nathanlt;4222261 said:
I applaud Garrett for going out and finding the kind of players with a strong work ethic, great intangibles, and quiet, bring your lunchpail, and get the job done.

However, when too many players fit that mold, there is no highly charged personality that becomes the team motivator. Pacing up and down the sidelines, firing up his team to fight during a seeming blowout and come back to win it all.

Yes, I'm thinking of Michael Irvin in the 90's, but there is a strong possibility that Dez could emerge as that kind of player if he matures a bit.

I also think Witten might find that kind of fire in his DNA and get this team going. Brooking seems to reserve his pep talks for before the game, not during.

Do you think there are players on the roster who will fit that mold? (If so, who???) Or do we need to find some?

Even Lee, who seems a beast on the field, and in fact appears to be a highly charged individual who is self motivating, does not appear to be the fiery type A personality that we need out there to get the rest of the team fired up when they begin to hang their heads.

Maybe Dez will develop into one such on the offense. Garrett stated in his presser, and Romo too today, that Dez is never negative, always positive and always trying to get guys around him fired up.

Maybe Carter will turn out to be that guy on defense. Maybe we just need to draft him in April, or sign him in free agency. Whatever we do, we must have that leadership on game day. It would be nice to have one on each side of the ball.

Sometimes, we just need a bad temper type, because calm cool and collected can be counter productive at times. Sometimes you need a wild eyed crazy man to get the guys fired up. The bad temper types. Being big and nasty helps. Motivator and enforcer in the same package. ;)
 
CATCH17;4222310 said:
Dez tries but the media kills him for it.

this.....i guess if romo did it. The media will love him. Just like phillip rivers.

I love how when i was watching nfl network and they said rivers cost his team the game. Nobody ragged on him like they do tony. They just actted like the only reason the lost is because rivers has to play a great game for them to win. If not they loose.

Well Romo has to play a perfect game in order for us to win, but the media fail to realize that. Rivers gets excuses and romo just gets labels:bang2:
 
jblaze2004;4222345 said:
this.....i guess if romo did it. The media will love him. Just like phillip rivers.

I love how when i was watching nfl network and they said rivers cost his team the game. Nobody ragged on him like they do tony. They just actted like the only reason the lost is because rivers has to play a great game for them to win. If not they loose.

Well Romo has to play a perfect game in order for us to win, but the media fail to realize that. Rivers gets excuses and romo just gets labels:bang2:
No one cares about the Quarterback of a Chargers team, but the WHOLE WORLD cares about the Quarterback of Americas team.

Is it right? Probably not. But it is what it is.
 
jblaze2004;4222345 said:
this.....i guess if romo did it. The media will love him. Just like phillip rivers.

I love how when i was watching nfl network and they said rivers cost his team the game. Nobody ragged on him like they do tony. They just actted like the only reason the lost is because rivers has to play a great game for them to win. If not they loose.

Well Romo has to play a perfect game in order for us to win, but the media fail to realize that. Rivers gets excuses and romo just gets labels:bang2:

Its a fact :(
 
Leadership 101...it is a learned quality. First, it requires the skillset to rise above the fray and set standard. It is difficult of a 'rook' level player to meet such a mold. It has to be established by older players.

The exact reason, is that vocalization has to rest upon proven record. Otherwise, it is burn barrell in nature.

Leadership in the offensive line, rests currently with Kyle Kosier. But here, it is currently hampered by his injured heel and his problems to actually rise up to challenges in his own response. That is a downer to function there.

The next focus on the offense, then is Tony Romo. When much of what is doing, is affected by lack of dependability in even catching a football. Then one adds in lack of predictability in read type patterns, for the receiver to actually be where Tony is trying to throw the ball. And then complicate matters, over the extent of recent contests, to even go through a timed progressio of reads...and leadership on the offense is stressed at the present.

First, consistency at a stable passing platform and running play execution, is required before someone springs forth as a Michael Irvin, or even an Emmitt Smith.

That part still works around the quarterback position, and the ability of the offensive line at present.

Myself, I have faith in Tony Romo.

On the defensive side, I think that DeMarcus Ware turned the corner this past weekend. He proved, that despite the play of all others on the field, he can rise to upper echelon levels of his own play. That gives him the confidence factor as well as credability at the most basic levels. His voice will be heard, now, no matter what, due to dramatic single game excellence and a record of consistency since he was a rookie.

Thins on the defensive side will continue to grow now. Rob Ryan has brought an aggressive attitude, and that sets the dynamics.

Sean Lee is just too young to have strong vocal addition...but his play isn't lacking. That will just take time, and integration within the defensive scheme.

Ratliff can now add to the voice of Ware. But I see a real need for Hatcher, Spears, Coleman, and even Brent and Lissimore to be physical additions to team directions here. Do that, and Anthony Spencer and he entire secondary will echo that unified response, that a team such as the Ravens with Lewis exhibit.
 
Clove;4222349 said:
No one cares about the Quarterback of a Chargers team, but the WHOLE WORLD cares about the Quarterback of Americas team.

Is it right? Probably not. But it is what it is.
Rivers has been ripped all week long on ESPN radio, almost universally. What more is needed to sate your Romomartyr complex?
 
CATCH17;4222310 said:
Dez tries but the media kills him for it.

But here's the counterpoint. Dez surely doesn't hang on the media's every word. I mean, his early blunders with sagging pants, getting into trouble, wasn't even fazed by the media's comments.

I think he realizes the media isn't everything.

The media sure tried to kill Michael, but Michael was a leader, despite their harsh words.
 
to be a leader you have to stand out on the field and in the game; Dez does not except now and then. Irvin did constantly. So if you are looking for Dez to become Irvin the Next Generation he first has to learn the playbook.
 
nathanlt;4222758 said:
But here's the counterpoint. Dez surely doesn't hang on the media's every word. I mean, his early blunders with sagging pants, getting into trouble, wasn't even fazed by the media's comments.

I think he realizes the media isn't everything.

The media sure tried to kill Michael, but Michael was a leader, despite their harsh words.

Dont blame the media for what Mike got cought doing, he got caught up in it all and did alot of stupid crap, that had nothing to do with the media. The diff between someone like Mike and Dez, Mike proved it, time after time after time. Dez will either step up or be a guy that had all the talent but just could not put it together.
 
burmafrd;4222770 said:
to be a leader you have to stand out on the field and in the game; Dez does not except now and then. Irvin did constantly. So if you are looking for Dez to become Irvin the Next Generation he first has to learn the playbook.

for sure..........it would give him the additional respect from his teamates, and then take the next step.
 
The firey leader is overrated by fans on this team. The issue is that this team does not make plays when it matters when things are tight. We have some guys that have Witten, Ware, Lee has this year.

The problem is the guys that have been here for a while that have never stepped up and made a big play. Where are our James Washington, our Tony Tolberts of the world. That is the issue instead we have Miles Austin dropping back to back passes right in his hands, we have Tony Romo fumbling down at the goal line with a lead.

All the other stuff is meaningless this team has to learn to make plays on a consistent bases when things get tight. The defense overall this year has given the team chances to win the offense has failed. NY Jets defense cause a fumble and the offense chokes, the defense gets a stop QB throws a back breaking idiotic int.

Detroit :facepalm:

Pats defense makes a big stop against the Patriots in Brady time the offense once again did nothing and the most telling was we did not throw the ball to try and get a first down when we needed one desperately.

The coach does not trust the QB therefore the offense has lost it's identity.

Yes the defense laid and egg it happens but the offense did them no favors they had a chance to help out there team redemption was at hand and they where once again MIA.

This team is standing on the edge of a cliff after the Eagles debacle.
 
CATCH17;4222310 said:
Dez tries but the media kills him for it.

there is laundry list of things Dez has done that put that bulls-eye on his chest for the Media. Acting normal and just going out there running correct routes and channeling all that energy to making plays might be good start for dez. If they does that....all of that "killing" the media does that your referring to....goes away quickly.
 
Kangaroo;4222797 said:
The firey leader is overrated by fans on this team. The issue is that this team does not make plays when it matters when things are tight. We have some guys that have Witten, Ware, Lee has this year.

The problem is the guys that have been here for a while that have never stepped up and made a big play. Where are our James Washington, our Tony Tolberts of the world. That is the issue instead we have Miles Austin dropping back to back passes right in his hands, we have Tony Romo fumbling down at the goal line with a lead.

All the other stuff is meaningless this team has to learn to make plays on a consistent bases when things get tight. The defense overall this year has given the team chances to win the offense has failed. NY Jets defense cause a fumble and the offense chokes, the defense gets a stop QB throws a back breaking idiotic int.

Detroit :facepalm:

Pats defense makes a big stop against the Patriots in Brady time the offense once again did nothing and the most telling was we did not throw the ball to try and get a first down when we needed one desperately.

The coach does not trust the QB therefore the offense has lost it's identity.

Yes the defense laid and egg it happens but the offense did them no favors they had a chance to help out there team redemption was at hand and they where once again MIA.

This team is standing on the edge of a cliff after the Eagles debacle.

I agree James Washington was a hugely underrated player. If Dallas was losing he would initiate a fierce hit anything to change the flow of that game. Dallas usually responded from his intensity.
 
I respect your opnion. The wildeyed leadership deal is way overrated. By in large the team with most talent wins. Coaches affectivness now play a bigger roll then it has in the past because there's so much parity. The perception of "leadership" is driven from success not the other way around. Do you think Staubach was less of a leader than Brady, becaues he didn't walk down the bench and scream at his players?
 

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