Most of you guys are going to be ticked off..

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Bob Sacamano;1470305 said:
I wouldn't mind Jarrett at all in the 1st

I wouldn't be jumping up and down in joy though either


I'd jump over the g--d--n moon.. this kid is good ! :starspin
 

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I love Jarrett, but I think you're going to be disappointed because I think all of the WR's are going to drop drop drop on draft day except for Johnson who will go #2.

The rest of the WR's are all good, capable of becoming starters, but none of them are exactly head and shoulders above the 4-5 receivers rated behind them. I think people are also going to be surprised when Gin doesn't go as the 2nd WR.

I think there will be 3 if not all 4 WR's we've discussed still on the board as the late teens and early 20's approach. Wr's always drop unless they are truly special and ready to play...and they'll drop even more due to the depth.

I won't be shocked to see either Meacham or Jarrett drop to the top of round 2, and I still think we'll see Bowe drafted before Gin. :eek:
 

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scrives;1470052 said:
when pick 22 is anouced and it's Dwayne Jarrett!!!!!!!! :mad:

I would not be because we need playmakers and you can say what you want but DJ is a playmaker. Can you imagine his upside learning from TO and TG.

But I would be much happier if we traded up and got AD. :)

However it is I'm a cowboy first and I'll be rootin for them.

At pick 22 the Dallas Cowboys take (If no trade) Dwayne Jarrett!!!! :starspin



83 posts in 3 years....that sums it up for me.

:rolleyes:
 

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Champsheart;1470092 said:
I would not be ticked at all. I have about 10 players I would be ok with @ 22.
I have never said something like that before, but all have some question marks, and all could be very good players.
Jarrett fits right in with that.
Honestly I still can not make up my mind of who I like better between Jarrett, Ginn, Meachem, and Bowe. There are good arguments for all 4. I would be fine if we draft any one of them, because honestly I think each one has just as good a chance of being legit as the other, although they are all very different type of receivers.

About as objective as it gets. I'm too opinionated for a post like this. :)

I don't quite agree. I think there is more of a bust factor with Ginn. And I admit I'm not as objective about Jarrett as I probably should be. You cannot fault his production. Maybe we just have his speed wrong. There is a real difference in football and combine speed. There is so much more to running routes and setting up DBs than 40 times.

Anyway good post.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;1470080 said:
Yay another USC homer.

Jarret is a posession receiver and is not a dynamic pass catcher.


Jarret's Pass cathing ability is as "dynamic" as they come, who were you watching?

He's a posession receiver allright, a dynamic, consistent, big tyme clutch, playmaking, TD producing, game winning, chain moving posession receiver!

You say posession WR like it's a bad word, Michael Irvin & Keyshawn Johnson were possesion receivers, and worth their weight in gold.

Obviously, I wouldn't be upset one bit if we drafted D.J., the only guy I would rather have at #22 (realistically) is Tedd Ginn Jr.

Passing on either of these two Big tyme playmakers would have me throwing furniture, again(Moss).
 

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J.Jones21;1470440 said:
wow your football knowledge is terrible, he has game speed stop just reading 40 times and thinking you know a single thing.

Excuse me, don't try to guess my football knowledge by one comment I make. Perhaps I should have elaborated, and saying that would have been justified. But to get personal is a bit overboard.

I know plenty about football. DJ is a great college player but in my opinion it will not translate to the NFL. The speed of the game is important no matter how much people want to deny it. Can it be overcome? Sure it can. The odds however are lower for sucess in the NFL the slower your 40 time at WR. That cannot be denied. If it didn't mean a thing it wouldn't be a measuring stick. It is not everything obviously. There are exceptions, and the common theme for those players is hard work and dedication. Does DJ have that? I don't know. I prefer my 1st round picks to have less downside is all. I hope that explains my thoughts on the matter. As you can see it included more than a single thing.
 

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CIWhitefish;1470816 said:
Excuse me, don't try to guess my football knowledge by one comment I make. Perhaps I should have elaborated, and saying that would have been justified. But to get personal is a bit overboard.

I know plenty about football. DJ is a great college player but in my opinion it will not translate to the NFL. The speed of the game is important no matter how much people want to deny it. Can it be overcome? Sure it can. The odds however are lower for sucess in the NFL the slower your 40 time at WR. That cannot be denied. If it didn't mean a thing it wouldn't be a measuring stick. It is not everything obviously. There are exceptions, and the common theme for those players is hard work and dedication. Does DJ have that? I don't know. I prefer my 1st round picks to have less downside is all. I hope that explains my thoughts on the matter. As you can see it included more than a single thing.


I was more or less kidding as I always am, Its never personal with me....really,, that said...

DJ played in a tough conference
had great stats
had great games (he took over and won for his team)
he is young (Junior declared)
he is healthy (Im pretty sure he didn't miss a single game in college)

for people to knock him because he ran a 4.6 instead of a 4.4 is very sad to me, im not sure how much you run/played the game but that is not really a diffrence the only time i see a diffrence is between 4.6 to 4.2 but that 4.2 player is just a rare freak who has that superb breakaway speed everyone else (who has FOOTBALL speed) is about the same and it comes down to production and other things.

This is not the Olympics, forget the race trac and look at the hash marks. Ashley Lelie (4.28) or Jerry Rice (4.6) sure it matter some, but really whats most important is the on-field productivity!!!

your call
 

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zeromaster;1470100 said:
'shrooms, right? :eek:
That wasn't my meaning at all. There's an old saying about reading the tea leaves. I was joking that his tea might be spiked. It didn't work.
 

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J.Jones21;1470889 said:
I was more or less kidding as I always am, Its never personal with me....really,, that said...

DJ played in a tough conference
had great stats
had great games (he took over and won for his team)
he is young (Junior declared)
he is healthy (Im pretty sure he didn't miss a single game in college)

for people to knock him because he ran a 4.6 instead of a 4.4 is very sad to me, im not sure how much you run/played the game but that is not really a diffrence the only time i see a diffrence is between 4.6 to 4.2 but that 4.2 player is just a rare freak who has that superb breakaway speed everyone else (who has FOOTBALL speed) is about the same and it comes down to production and other things.

This is not the Olympics, forget the race trac and look at the hash marks. Ashley Lelie (4.28) or Jerry Rice (4.6) sure it matter some, but really whats most important is the on-field productivity!!!

your call

Productivity is exactly where it is at. Rice and Lelie are examples where speed does not make a difference and I applaud you for ferreting that particular duo out. What is the other difference between those two? Jerry worked his butt off getting better while Lelie did not.

Like I said before, speed is not the end all beat all. It is a measuring stick like any other. However, in a first round pick you want to minimize your risks. Taking a WR in the first who has questionable 40 AND shuttle times is a risk you don't need to take when there are better values on the board at #22. I just don't see DJ as a true #1 receiver and if you are going 1st round on one he better be. Opinion only, nothing to do with the 5 rings.
 
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