Movies That Millennials Need To See?

[CouchCoach]

We might need a different thread on why Hollywood churns out so many movies that are mediocre to bad. In short, they've found a cookie cutter formula for putting out movies that are often just okay and almost never great, but make money. It's all about the money. For Hollywood if they put out a film that achieves a cult classic status eventually, but fails at the box office, it's a failure. None of this is the millennials' fault, btw. They would probably welcome super creative and amazing movies.

Is it art imitating life or the reverse?

They get a lot of criticism but all they do is give the buyers what they want. Action films drive the train and get the best return and they can use CGI to control expenses.

Hollywood is encapsulated in one example to me of the problem with it all being about the profits to cover for the losses on many of them. When Peter Jackson did Lord of the Rings, he used CGI but mostly depended on make up and actors to set his scenes and bring larger scenes to life. He got more money to do The Hobbit, stretched the story line to three films and spent more time on CGI and ruined the experience for me. It was obviously made for one reason, to make profits. The same man made both but the difference was the moneymen capitalizing on the popularity of his LOTR success. He left out story in the first and added it in the second, all to make more money.

When profit is the motive, the final product is rarely good.

 

[Runwildboys]

We might need a different thread on why Hollywood churns out so many movies that are mediocre to bad. In short, they've found a cookie cutter formula for putting out movies that are often just okay and almost never great, but make money. It's all about the money. For Hollywood if they put out a film that achieves a cult classic status eventually, but fails at the box office, it's a failure. None of this is the millennials' fault, btw. They would probably welcome super creative and amazing movies.

The ones I know have no interest in seeing a movie that wasn't made during or after their teenage years. It's the same with music for many of them. "It's so old!"

I know when I was a kid, I listened to stuff that came out decades before I was born. I didn't necessarily like it all, but I gave it a chance. They don't seem to be willing to do that. Then again, like movies, their choice of music tends to lean toward glitz and shiny objects, rather than substance.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

Is it art imitating life or the reverse?

They get a lot of criticism but all they do is give the buyers what they want. Action films drive the train and get the best return and they can use CGI to control expenses.

Hollywood is encapsulated in one example to me of the problem with it all being about the profits to cover for the losses on many of them. When Peter Jackson did Lord of the Rings, he used CGI but mostly depended on make up and actors to set his scenes and bring larger scenes to life. He got more money to do The Hobbit, stretched the story line to three films and spent more time on CGI and ruined the experience for me. It was obviously made for one reason, to make profits. The same man made both but the difference was the moneymen capitalizing on the popularity of his LOTR success. He left out story in the first and added it in the second, all to make more money.

When profit is the motive, the final product is rarely good.

The thing is, a movie with a a brilliant story CAN do well at the box office, but it's a big monetary risk. The movie studios will often stick with what's likely to work well, sequels, re-hashes of old TV, etc., because they know they'll sell enough tickets and rentals. Something that's super innovative runs a bigger risk of flopping. How many movies have you heard of that became cult classics, but did terrible at the box office? Lots! It's not that people don't want quality stories. Most everyone wants that. It's that the studios are reluctant to take risks on innovation. It's why I watch a lot of movies from France. They have a different system there of grants for creative works, so they'll be willing to risk it on slower moving more artsy plots. I don't worship the French. They put out some bad movies too, and some of the "artsy" ones are real stinkers. But amid that, they put out some mind-blowing, creative stuff.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

The ones I know have no interest in seeing a movie that wasn't made during or after their teenage years. It's the same with music for many of them. "It's so old!"

I know when I was a kid, I listened to stuff that came out decades before I was born. I didn't necessarily like it all, but I gave it a chance. They don't seem to be willing to do that. Then again, like movies, their choice of music tends to lean toward glitz and shiny objects, rather than substance.

I was a lot like that for a long time. My favorite bands when I was about 14 were Kiss and Sweet, and I rarely ever listened to anything else. One of my classmates liked the Rolling Stones and the Beatles, and I thought he was lame for liking stuff that I considered dated at the time. It took me some time to branch out and listen out of my age group. Nowadays, I think the Beatles and the Stones were both amazing, especially the Beatles. I can hear their influence on other groups. When I listen to Sweet today, I'll say, "That riff was so Beatles!" But my point is, give these young people some time. It might just take them a little time to appreciate older stuff, like it did for me.

 

[CouchCoach]

The ones I know have no interest in seeing a movie that wasn't made during or after their teenage years. It's the same with music for many of them. "It's so old!"

I know when I was a kid, I listened to stuff that came out decades before I was born. I didn't necessarily like it all, but I gave it a chance. They don't seem to be willing to do that. Then again, like movies, their choice of music tends to lean toward glitz and shiny objects, rather than substance.

They're overstimulated, that's a like an addiction and they need to constantly feed that. And there's no shortage of stimuli for them in music, movies, social media and the internet is the ultimate in "I want it and I want it now".

I didn't grow up with any of that so I have the advantage of not having the diversions they have that are growing exponentially. I do not criticize them because I would be them if I were their age. However, I do not envy them.

 

[EGTuna]

I'm gonna be annoying and list a lot of movies (off the top of my head). Apologies in advance.

The Third Man
To Have and Have Not
The Maltese Falcon
The Front Page
Rear Window
The Graduate
Easy Rider
Rope
The Friends of Eddie Coyle
Dirty Larry, Crazy Mary
Blue Collar
The Deer Hunter
Dog Day Afternoon
Serpico
Raging Bull
Prizzi's Honor
The Grifters
Raising Arizona
Miller's Crossing
Barfly
Reservoir Dogs
Say Anything
Reality Bites
A Few Good Men
One Flew Over the Cukoo's Nest
Chinatown
High Fidelity
The Sure Thing
Gross Point Blank
Misery
Fried Green Tomatoes
Klute
The Sting
All The President's Men
The Usual Suspects
At Close Range
King of New York

OK, I'll stop. All required viewing as far as I'm concerned.

 

[CouchCoach]

I was a lot like that for a long time. My favorite bands when I was about 14 were Kiss and Sweet, and I rarely ever listened to anything else. One of my classmates liked the Rolling Stones and the Beatles, and I thought he was lame for liking stuff that I considered dated at the time. It took me some time to branch out and listen out of my age group. Nowadays, I think the Beatles and the Stones were both amazing, especially the Beatles. I can hear their influence on other groups. When I listen to Sweet today, I'll say, "That riff was so Beatles!" But my point is, give these young people some time. It might just take them a little time to appreciate older stuff, like it did for me.

I agree, too many criticize them because there's never been one like them before. It seems that every generation's job is to criticize the next one, the one they brought into this world and created.

The Greatest Generation, and I do believe that, wanted the next one, the Boomers, not to have life as tough as they did with the Depression and WWII so they tried to make it easy on us and just like Frankenstein's monster turned on him, we turned on them. Here's those morals and values that shaped you, we don't want them. We threw everything back at them and blamed them for everything. Here's some Elvis and his pelvis, Beatles and some drugs thrown in for good measure, free love, protests, mini skirts, hot pants and anything else we can devise to show you your lives, what you went through, the hardships and sacrifices were all for us to ignore you.

Every subsequent generation, and that is generalizing because there are plenty of exceptions but they don't get covered in the news, has worsened, according to all of them. More grandparents raising their grandchildren than ever before, more 20-30 something's returning to live with their parents and the divorce rate at an all time high.

Rev, I for one, feel we left the caves a little early, we weren't ready. And now we stand on the edge of the most dangerous technology advancement in history, AI, and there are actually some that think we can control and handle that. Only humankind is capable of creating their own demise, just because they can.

 

[Reverend Conehead]

I agree, too many criticize them because there's never been one like them before. It seems that every generation's job is to criticize the next one, the one they brought into this world and created.

The Greatest Generation, and I do believe that, wanted the next one, the Boomers, not to have life as tough as they did with the Depression and WWII so they tried to make it easy on us and just like Frankenstein's monster turned on him, we turned on them. Here's those morals and values that shaped you, we don't want them. We threw everything back at them and blamed them for everything. Here's some Elvis and his pelvis, Beatles and some drugs thrown in for good measure, free love, protests, mini skirts, hot pants and anything else we can devise to show you your lives, what you went through, the hardships and sacrifices were all for us to ignore you.

Every subsequent generation, and that is generalizing because there are plenty of exceptions but they don't get covered in the news, has worsened, according to all of them. More grandparents raising their grandchildren than ever before, more 20-30 something's returning to live with their parents and the divorce rate at an all time high.

Rev, I for one, feel we left the caves a little early, we weren't ready. And now we stand on the edge of the most dangerous technology advancement in history, AI, and there are actually some that think we can control and handle that. Only humankind is capable of creating their own demise, just because they can.

I work with many millennials. I'm the trainer where I work. I've found if I give the younger people a chance first with the best training I can give them and then with support after the fact, most of them do a very good job. Not all of them. But I feel like too many in my generation will just focus on the ones who did a bad job and then generalize. But the truth is, as I've seen it, many will give it an honest effort and become skilled if given the chance. Snap judging them is the best way to set them up to be resentful and to fail. Focusing on their value and making an effort to be fair, I've found, is the best way to give them the chance to succeed. It's what I've observed anyway.

 

[Runwildboys]

I agree, too many criticize them because there's never been one like them before. It seems that every generation's job is to criticize the next one, the one they brought into this world and created.

The Greatest Generation, and I do believe that, wanted the next one, the Boomers, not to have life as tough as they did with the Depression and WWII so they tried to make it easy on us and just like Frankenstein's monster turned on him, we turned on them. Here's those morals and values that shaped you, we don't want them. We threw everything back at them and blamed them for everything. Here's some Elvis and his pelvis, Beatles and some drugs thrown in for good measure, free love, protests, mini skirts, hot pants and anything else we can devise to show you your lives, what you went through, the hardships and sacrifices were all for us to ignore you.

Every subsequent generation, and that is generalizing because there are plenty of exceptions but they don't get covered in the news, has worsened, according to all of them. More grandparents raising their grandchildren than ever before, more 20-30 something's returning to live with their parents and the divorce rate at an all time high.

Rev, I for one, feel we left the caves a little early, we weren't ready. And now we stand on the edge of the most dangerous technology advancement in history, AI, and there are actually some that think we can control and handle that. Only humankind is capable of creating their own demise, just because they can.

We can't really put all the blame on the generations themselves. Back in the day, the father was traditionally the breadwinner, and he made enough money to allow the mother to stay home and take care of the kids, teaching them values handed down. Just the fact that it isn't feasible for most families to survive and thrive on a single income changes everything.

 

[Runwildboys]

Silence of the Lambs

 

[SlammedZero]

I always find it funny when old codgers make fun of millennials.. Our parents did the same to us for playing Nintendo ha

I had a similar conversation a week or two ago. I was mentioning how terrible the music is these days and a friend and I were laughing about how our parents probably said the same thing about the stuff we were listening to.



(Though I honestly think as a whole music has gone downhill)

 

[CouchCoach]

I had a similar conversation a week or two ago. I was mentioning how terrible the music is these days and a friend and I were laughing about how our parents probably said the same thing about the stuff we were listening to.



(Though I honestly think as a whole music has gone downhill)

Guys like Mozart and Beethoven would agree.

 

[Runwildboys]

Guys like Mozart and Beethoven would agree.

I sometimes think about what men like them would do with music in this day and age, and I think they'd love it. I think Mozart would be much like Prince, and Beethoven like Jeff Lynne.

 

[CouchCoach]

I sometimes think about what men like them would do with music in this day and age, and I think they'd love it. I think Mozart would be much like Prince, and Beethoven like Jeff Lynne.

I think they would be the John Williams, James Horner, Howard Shore, Ennio Morricone, Hans Zimmer and Jerry Goldsmith's of music.

 

[rynochop]

I had a similar conversation a week or two ago. I was mentioning how terrible the music is these days and a friend and I were laughing about how our parents probably said the same thing about the stuff we were listening to.



(Though I honestly think as a whole music has gone downhill)

I used to like Motley Crüe as a teen, my mom was worried I worshiped the devil.lol

 

[Runwildboys]

I think they would be the John Williams, James Horner, Howard Shore, Ennio Morricone, Hans Zimmer and Jerry Goldsmith's of music.

Nah, I've never heard of them.

 

[chagus]

Amadeus
Crossroads
Life is Beautiful
Big
Half Baked
Dumb and Dumber
The Green Mile
Aliens

 

[cml750]

Perhaps I missed them in the thread but I will add these two to the many great selections everyone else has suggested.

Highlander and The Princess Bride.

I "made" my son watch The Princess Bride" when he was around 15/16. He was griping about it mainly because of the title until about 10 minutes into it. He loved it. I loved the irony of the situation with Fred Savage griping about his grandfather reading him the book then not wanting him to stop.

 

[Runwildboys]

Perhaps I missed them in the thread but I will add these two to the many great selections everyone else has suggested.

Highlander and The Princess Bride.

I "made" my son watch The Princess Bride" when he was around 15/16. He was griping about it until about 10 minutes into it. He loved it. I loved the irony of the situation with Fred Savage griping about his grandfather reading him the book then not wanting him to stop.

Highlander was an awesome flick. The series was good too. Even named my dog Duncan MacLeod.

 

[Skullmiester]

It's a mad mad mad mad world - hilarious movie and so many quotable lines.