Murray or Morris?

[footballnflstyle]

i was talking with a friend and we were debating who is the best back between demarco murray and alfred morris,can you guys give me your take on this,because i'm not sure..lets base it on both offense's for each team stays healthy all year!! who's the better back?

 

[Lodeus]

Morris.

I'd like to see what Murray can do if he is able to stay healthy all season though.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Right now, I'd give the nod to Morris. He stayed healthy in a season where he got a lot of work. If he can be that kind of work horse back, that's very valuable. I'd rather have a guy who can play 16 games and give me 90 to 100 a game consistently as opposed to a guy who might be capable of putting up 150 to 200 yards but is on the shelf for 8 games a season.

 

[CoCo]

Right now, I'd give the nod to Morris. He stayed healthy in a season where he got a lot of work. If he can be that kind of work horse back, that's very valuable. I'd rather have a guy who can play 16 games and give me 90 to 100 a game consistently as opposed to a guy who might be capable of putting up 150 to 200 yards but is on the shelf for 8 games a season.

I tend to agree with this perspective.

I think Morris supporting cast is clicking for him right now. But you cannot argue with the results.

Murray needs to show me that he can be a horse. Not a tough guy horse who looks for contact, for contact's sake. But a guy who plays smart so that he can answer the bell over and over and over effectively. Do we need to see the Marion Barber movie all over again? I don't think so.

 

[HoosierCowboy]

Morris had a better year last year--that's all we know

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Morris had a better year last year--that's all we know

Actually, we know more then that. We know that in two seasons, Murray has been injured and missed games in both. We know that Morris carried 335 times last year and was able to start all 16 games. That's not proof that he will always be able to produce the way he did last year but as you say, the data is limited so you can only base a judgement off of the body of work available.

 

[visionary]

Actually, we know more then that. We know that in two seasons, Murray has been injured and missed games in both. We know that Morris carried 335 times last year and was able to start all 16 games. That's not proof that he will always be able to produce the way he did last year but as you say, the data is limited so you can only base a judgement off of the body of work available.

agree with you

wasnt there a statistic abut RBs, where above a certain number of touches in a "productive" year, the next year, their production was way down (sometimes due to injury)?

the RBs that can do this year in and year out are few (and usually the great ones)

 

[AKATheRake]

Here's the facts.

Alfred Morris 1 year career: 16 games, started all in 1 season. Rushed for 1613 yards and scored 13 TD's. Put over 200 yards on us in week 17 in a game to go to the playoffs and win our division. Even with his QB's knee injured in that game.

DeMarco Murray 2 year career: 23 games, played but did not start all in first 2 seasons. Rushed for 1560 yards and 6 TD's combined. Missed 3 and 6 games, 9 total of a possible 32 due to injuries.

I love our boys.... But is there any question at this point who's been the better back?

 

[KJJ]

You can only go by what both Murray and Morris have accomplished so far and so far Morris has clearly been the better back. Morris put up more yards and TD's as a rookie last season than Murray has put up in his first 2 seasons. Morris averaged an impressive 4.8 a carry in 335 attempts. He's shown stamina and durability while Murray has shown neither. I've seen Murray signal to the sidelines on at least a couple of occasions to come out for a breather. In Murray's franchise record performance vs the Rams in 2011 he got winded during a long run and decided to hit the deck before even being caught. The defender was running up on Murray and before he ever grabbed him Murray dropped down. A lot of us mentioned it on the board after the game and it clearly bothered some fans.

Morris is like the energizer bunny he keeps going and going. Shanahan even asked him if he needed a rest for a few plays during his demolition of the Cowboys in the season finale and Morris didn't want to come out. Murray had 17 negative carries last season. He gets cute trying to cut back and reverse field which has led to a number of negative carries. When healthy he's been a good back but he hasn't shown durability or stamina. A lot of FANS got a carried away with him after his rookie year and some have soured on him since with his durability issues. If the nagging injuries continue in 2013 causing him to miss more playing time he won't see a second contract in Dallas.

 

[footballnflstyle]

Here's the facts.

Alfred Morris 1 year career: 16 games, started all in 1 season. Rushed for 1613 yards and scored 13 TD's. Put over 200 yards on us in week 17 in a game to go to the playoffs and win our division. Even with his QB's knee injured in that game.

DeMarco Murray 2 year career: 23 games, played but did not start all in first 2 seasons. Rushed for 1560 yards and 6 TD's combined. Missed 3 and 6 games, 9 total of a possible 32 due to injuries.

I love our boys.... But is there any question at this point who's been the better back?

hard to debate them numbers..

 

[AKATheRake]

hard to debate them numbers..

Lol! I'm gonna like your msg.

 

[DFWJC]

So far, it's Morris in a landslide.

Stay tuned though

 

[Chocolate Lab]

The injury question is fair enough, but on pure talent, it's hard to say because their blocking scheme is so superior to ours. Murray would have had far more yards on their team, and Morris would have had far fewer on ours. You can't forget that Shanahan knows how to get even relative spare talents like Mike Anderson close to 1500 yards.

 

[KJJ]

Murray would have had far more yards on their team, and Morris would have had far fewer on ours.

Murray is no Adrian Peterson it's a huge stretch to say he would have had far more than 1600 yards on their team. He wouldn't be able to stay healthy for them with the workload he would be given. Morris carried the ball 335 times last season that's 10 more carries than Murray has had the past 2 seasons. I agree Morris wouldn't have gained 1600+ for the Cowboys behind their OL but he would have gained more than Murray because he would have played a full 16 games.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I meant that he'd have had more on their team than he had on ours, not more than Morris had.

 

[KJJ]

I meant that he'd have had more on their team than he had on ours, not more than Morris had.

I see what you're saying but with Murray's durability issues I doubt he would have stayed healthy enough to produce much more in Washington than what he's produced in Dallas. For him to produce he has to be on the field. Of Murray's 1560 yards 253 of it came in one game. Murray has been somewhat of a boom or bust type runner. He'll either break one for 25+ or take a loss. The way the Commanders pounded the ball last season Murray would have worn down and come up with some nagging injury early in the season. Morris was a workhorse Murray wouldn't hold up to the number of carries Morris had last season.

Morris is more of an up the field runner who consistently picks up yards. He can wear you down with 5 to 10 yard runs. Murray likes to get cute and cut back when he doesn't see a hole which has set him free on a number of runs but it's also resulted in a number of negative carries.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

shanahan's system has proven any runnign back can get a 1000 yards behind that scheme. what I like to see what morris would do behind the cowboys line and what murray would do in shanahan's zone blocking scheme. I think barring injuries, which is a big issue, Murray would be a better running back. he has better break away speed.

 

[KJJ]

shanahan's system has proven any runnign back can get a 1000 yards behind that scheme. what I like to see what morris would do behind the cowboys line and what murray would do in shanahan's zone blocking scheme. I think barring injuries, which is a big issue, Murray would be a better running back. he has better break away speed.

I'm sure any back could gain 1000 yards in Shanahan's system if they can stay healthy but only Adrian Peterson out rushed Morris last season. He reminded me a little of Emmitt the way he keeps finding creases and making positive yards. We'll find out this upcoming season whether it was a fluke or Morris is the real deal. I don't think he'll gain as much in 2013 because I expect RG3 to produce a lot more as a passer provided he stays healthy.

 

[Hostile]

Robert Griffin III was named the 2012 Rookie of the Year. I don't even think he was the best rookie on his team, Morris was. Morris would have my vote at this point.

 

[Section446]

i was talking with a friend and we were debating who is the best back between demarco murray and alfred morris,can you guys give me your take on this,because i'm not sure..lets base it on both offense's for each team stays healthy all year!! who's the better back?

You can't do this and "assume" health, because the reality of the situation is that Murray is rarely healthy. Unfortunately, there's no question who the better back is right now, if you're starting a team and have to pick you, you'd be crazy not to go with Alfred Morris. Now who has the higher ceiling? There's some debate there, but I'd probably give the nod to Murray.