Murray should get the rock 22x a game minimum

[mmohican29]

Regardless of Felix Jones rejoining the active roster. Murray has proven himself to be a "lead dog" tailback. He doesn't seem to take long to get warmed up, but I fear if RHG gets too cute with splitting carries it will be to the detriment of the offense.

I like Felix, but he's had plenty of opportunities to take the job and run with it. The offense and OL seems to respond much better to having Murray in the backfield- he's more patient and can power through arm tackles.

FJ is at best a minimally effective inside runner. He relies on his burst to get through to the second level and when there is no crease he gets pushed sideways and loses his balance.

Murray's hammer down jumpstep is unreal, and his initial slash leaves defenders praying he doesn't get to full speed before he hits the secondary if they do not make solid contact.

This is the back we need. He can be elite. I'm talking AP level elite. Bring Felix in on one series a game and in concert with Murray and let the defense pick which back is getting the rock or screen.

I just don't like the idea of the rhythm of this offense to be thrown a wrench. Fiammetta and Murray work wonders out there. Murray needs the ball. Alot.

 

[The30YardSlant]

Just FYI, if you stretch 22 carries a game out over a 16 game season it comes to 352 carries. Emmitt only had three years with that many carries in his 15 year career.

Not saying you are wrong, but that is a TON of carries per game.

 

[Eskimo]

Let the game situation and the defense dictate how many carries he gets per game.

If teams want to stack the box and we spring out to a 35-0 lead by halftime, I wouldn't have any qualms with resting Murray and letting Tanner get some reps at RB.

Ideally Murray should get about 15-20 touches per game. Felix should chip in with 5-10 touches per game. Tanner can probably chip in another 3-10 touches per game as well - he can pick up some of the hard yards and some run out the clock yards as well so Felix and Murray don't take any needless punishment.

 

[UVAwahoos]

The dumbest thing we could do is wear out Murray, like every team in the league does to their feature tailback. Dallas fans are spoiled by Emmitt's longevity and durability. I hope we use these guys wisely. Heck, one could argue that even Barber was overused to the point that he burned out.

 

[The30YardSlant]

The dumbest thing we could do is wear out Murray, like every team in the league does to their feature tailback. Dallas fans are spoiled by Emmitt's longevity and durability. I hope we use these guys wisely. Heck, one could argue that even Barber was overused to the point that he burned out.

Not many tailbacks get "worn out" anymore with the two back system taking hold on most places. Adrian Peterson and Michael Turner could still fall into that category, but those guys are HUGE, physical backs who are built to take a beating.

Barber's problem wasnt his number of carries, it was his style of running. He actively sought out contact on every play.

 

[UVAwahoos]

Not many tailbacks get "worn out" anymore with the two back system taking hold on most places. Adrian Peterson and Michael Turner could still fall into that category, but those guys are HUGE, physical backs who are built to take a beating.

Barber's problem wasnt his number of carries, it was his style of running. He actively sought out contact on every play.

It has everything to do with durability and carries. How many backs make it past 30 in this league? They're used, abused, and then kicked to the curb these days. Barber was fine as a 3rd down back, even with his running style, but he all of the sudden fell off once we started featuring him more. He's actually having a mini-resurgence with the Bears as their 3rd down back this year. At the very least, he looks a lot more fresh and effective than anytime last season.

With Felix here, we actually have the opportunity to keep Murray's carries in the 15-20 range. I'm all for that plan.

 

[mmohican29]

I was including receptions in that total, but Murray looks every bit a 3 down back. 18 to 20 carries and target him 3 times on screens and swing passes, and he's gold.

 

[dwmyers]

In a nutshell, 370 carries a season is just about unsustainable. And whether you believe in the Curse of 370, or the "regression to the mean" of the Myth of 370, unless you're Eric Dickerson, you don't sustain that kind of pace.

A few games? Sure. 10-12 games? Sure. Over multiple 16 games seasons, it's not a plan, it's a problem waiting to manifest itself.

20 touches a game, over the course of a season, is plenty. The rest should be handled by the other running backs.

D-

 

[Ren]

The dumbest thing we could do is wear out Murray, like every team in the league does to their feature tailback. Dallas fans are spoiled by Emmitt's longevity and durability. I hope we use these guys wisely. Heck, one could argue that even Barber was overused to the point that he burned out.

Has nothing to do with Emmitt, HBs generally don't last all the long in this league so i don't see the point in saving him. Get all the production you can out of him while he's productive and worry about 5 years from now 5 years from now

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I could live with 13-20 carries and 5 catches a game. Sometimes we can't run it that much if we are getting down early. Other times we need to run it more if we have the lead.

We do have to remember that Felix has not really gotten time with Fiametta like Murray has. And when he did, he ran for over 100 yards.




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[mmohican29]

Has nothing to do with Emmitt, HBs generally don't last all the long in this league so i don't see the point in saving him. Get all the production you can out of him while he's productive and worry about 5 years from now 5 years from now

Exactly, plus I believe he's a bit of an "older" rookie. Players are an asset. Use them, then make the tough decisions when they need to be made. I'm sure he knows his limitations, and by all accounts is a tremendous physical specimen

 

[BourbonBalz]

I'm all for using Murray as much as we can, but we don't need to over use him. Murray has been great, but we can't forget we've also got Felix. Felix is a very good back. He needs touches as well. We need to give him some carries AND use him in the passing game. Keep the defenses guessing and keep our backs fresh. I'm looking forward to his return. This week?

 

[Everlastingxxx]

I would feed this dude the ball every single game and only take him out when he is about to pass out. 20-30 carries per game sounds good to me. Guy is a work horse.

 

[zrinkill]

The dumbest thing we could do is wear out Murray

Dumbest thing we could do is not use Murray because of some wussy fear he will get wore out or hurt.

 

[UVAwahoos]

Dumbest thing we could do is not use Murray because of some wussy fear he will get wore out or hurt.

Even a troll slayer should recognize that Felix is serviceable enough to take some of the bulk carries away. Would Radu at least agree?

 

[Ren]

Even a troll slayer should recognize that Felix is serviceable enough to take some of the bulk carries away. Would Radu at least agree?

Felix is pretty damn good but he's no where near as consistent, it's all or nothing with him Murray gets you positive plays on damn near every carry. Instead of 3rd and 8s and 3rd and 10s we're seeing a lot of 3rd and 2 and 3rd and 3 now. Our whole offense is better cause of him, i'm not so sure we can count on Felix for that kind of consistency and at this point at 5-4 i'm not a big fan of messing with what's working in order to limit his carries. We don't have a lot of wiggle room if we want to make a push for the playoffs so now is not the time to get cute on offense

 

[AbeBeta]

Far better that we target him with 15 carries and Felix with 10 or so. Murray is looking very good -- but he'll look just as good and maybe even better with Felix taking some of the every down pressure off

 

[zrinkill]

Even a troll slayer should recognize that Felix is serviceable enough to take some of the bulk carries away.

Being serviceable and being the best back on the team is two different things ..... even a troll should recognize that.

Would Radu at least agree?

Who is that?

 

[JD_KaPow]

Felix is pretty damn good but he's no where near as consistent, it's all or nothing with him Murray gets you positive plays on damn near every carry.

This really isn't the case: Murray has failed to gain yardage on 15% of his runs, vs. 13% for Felix.

 

[Clove]

I'm not really interested in conserving Murray or any runner past 30, we need him to shine for the next 6 or 7 years. That's our window to win as many championships as possible, well at this point, I'll take 1.

But I agree, 22 plus a game. Some games, he'll have 13, others, maybe 30. But on a normal basis, he can take 22.