Must read article on state of skins organization!

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That was a fantastic article.

Possibly the best football related article I've read in the last 5 years. Very well written with good quotes and a good premise.

Kudos, major kudos, to the author.
 

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InmanRoshi;1186318 said:
Rick Gosselin was raving this offseason about what geniuses Gibbs and the Commanders were for taking advantage that there's no cap on coaches. Meanwhile, Parcells was stuck in the mud. Promoting no names from within.

When can we expect the followup "I was wrong column"?

I want to know when we can expect I was wrong posts from everyone wringing their hands about that signing on here while Parcells "just" brought in pathetic Palmer.

Meanwhile, we're the #3 offense in the league, with much more complex and varied schemes than Saunders ever had.
 

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riggo;1186302 said:
thats some pretty in depth stuff. over the past week i've been thinking of who is to blame for the state of the team, and i was pointing to gibbs as the culprit, much as it pains me as a long time fan. i started thinking about williams and the autonomy he has with the D and with who he wants. he wanted arch. he wanted carter. the O has an excuse, at least. but besides these 2, the D is the same as it was last year when it carried this team over the last 5 weeks of the season and in tampa.

i think the article may be right on as far as williams losing his D cuz if his attitude. when you have mostly the same players from last year, what else can explain this incredible dropoff?

Hey Riggo sometimes it isn't the players so much as their attitude. Lavar was the emotional leader and Ryan Clark was the calming wave. When you guys were down Lavar would free lance and make an awesome play and pump you guys up. When a coverage was needed to stop an opponent Clark made sure everyone was where they needed to be. Remember how the cowboys defense took a hit when Woody left and then Dat. You can replace talent but sometimes it takes a while replace the intangibles.
 

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Daudr;1186319 said:
One thing is absolutely clear with this article - the Commander locker room has gone to hell. There is no way a reporter should have access to that much inside information unless there has been a total implosion.

No kidding!

Unless a Skins player is funneling the info thru Lavar on IR in NY, some Washington player(s) must be directly spilling the beans...and a mightly gassy hill of beans it is.

It could all blow just on the fumes.
 
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I remember when a lot of people called for Zimmer to be fired, what's happened now? Deadskin players shouldn't let the laundry out to writers but instead go talk to the head coach, that's a cop out if you ask me. I also remember when people wanted Gregg Williams here in Dallas, where are those certain people, he's been a mediocre coach if you ask me and someone with a bad attitude...


How in the world did these Dallas Cowboys ever lose to those bums?????:confused:
 

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Greg williams is what he is... a very good defensive coach who has let his ego get the best of him. Buffalo had an outstanding defense but remember their offense was led by Deadslow ( case closed). He built the Commanders into a great defense but became too arrogant (Snyder's money didnt help matters) to think that his scheme was better than the players. The Commanders will be back because this off-season they will again go out and sign big name free agents but this year will finally draft some young talent. They will have a full off-season to groom a good, young qb and will probably sign freeny and lance briggs to major contracts.

The problem is snyder refuses to allow young talent to develop and thinks that chemistry is bought. Parcells and jerry have built this team thru the draft and the signing of FA to plug in holes. If you want a champion Snyder then allow Gibbs to do it his way and build one with his people. Just because they are percieve as the best doesnt mean they are the best for your team.
 

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LaTunaNostra;1186273 said:
Williams, in the meantime, has not backed off of calling the Cover 2, perhaps out of stubbornness. And the rest of the league has clearly caught on.

I kept telling skin trolls that they needed players for the D to be successful, because teams had 2 years of tape on it, and that A Carter and A Archuleta weren't it
 

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summerisfunner;1186680 said:
I kept telling skin trolls that they needed players for the D to be successful, because teams had 2 years of tape on it, and that A Carter and A Archuleta weren't it

It's your lucky day!

You could be Dan Snyder's next ten million dollar DC!
 

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summerisfunner;1186687 said:
I'd probably be getting the same results lol

I doubt you'd have punked BOTH Taylor's and Archeleta's chances to play well.
 

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LaTunaNostra;1186690 said:
I doubt you'd have punked BOTH Taylor's and Archeleta's chances to play well.

despite blitzing, when has Archuleta ever played well? but I get your point
 

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riggo;1186302 said:
thats some pretty in depth stuff. over the past week i've been thinking of who is to blame for the state of the team, and i was pointing to gibbs as the culprit, much as it pains me as a long time fan. i started thinking about williams and the autonomy he has with the D and with who he wants. he wanted arch. he wanted carter. the O has an excuse, at least. but besides these 2, the D is the same as it was last year when it carried this team over the last 5 weeks of the season and in tampa.

i think the article may be right on as far as williams losing his D cuz if his attitude. when you have mostly the same players from last year, what else can explain this incredible dropoff?


Williams strolled into Buffalo making a "Buddy Ryan" type speech about how a winner was now it town.

The guy is incredibly arrogant.

The folks in Buffalo (both players and fans) were happy to see him leave.
 

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Well once again the joke is on Daniel Snyder

only this time the punchline is Joe Gibbs.

Why the media has not been tearing this organization a new one everyday since training camp started is beyond me.

Joe gibbs is on route to his second losing season in three years, and now it looks like everything will have to be redone.

One thing that is apparent to me is that Gibbs has very very thin skin, that crap he pulled on Sean Salisbury at espn last year was about as low rent as you can get. Why would a hall of fame coach care what a spare ex nfl player says about his team. Pretty sorry. I can see gibbs and williams and snyder sitting around crying about espn being mean to them.

This puts the gibbs parcells debate to rest. No Commanders fan should ever bring that up again.
 

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MichaelWinicki;1186704 said:
The folks in Buffalo (both players and fans) were happy to see him leave.

He's at the very top of my all-time Hate List for sacking Doug Flutie. Kept Rob Johnson.

THAT was genius.

When Coach Killer Bledsoe arrived, I couldn't have been happier.

Hey Mike, do you remember "the maroon zone"?
 

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Snyder's got the "smartest guy in the room" complex; the kind of guy you hate to run into at a seminar or reunion. Jerry used to be that guy (i.e. the Galloway trade), but it'll be a cold day in hell before he pays an assistant coach head coach money.
 

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theebs;1186710 said:
Well once again the joke is on Daniel Snyder

only this time the punchline is Joe Gibbs.

Gibbs has been the joke as well. He's the one who wanted to bring in Randle El and Lloyd, both of whom are projected to have half of the yards, catches, and TD's COMBINED than Owens this year.

He's also the guy that brought in Al Saunders.

Williams deserves some blame, but the offense isn't exactly lighting up the world either.



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