My 2012 NFL Draft...

Reyes won't get to 45 in all likelihood. Winn is not close to as good a prospect as the 1st round guys. Winn will be the 9th or 10 dl taken and Cox will be 1 or 2.
 
Risen Star;4498066 said:
1(14) Fletcher Cox DT Mississippi St.
2(45) Amini Silatolu G Midwestern St.
3(81) Josh Chapman DT Alabama
4(113) Ryan Broyles WR Oklahoma
4(135) Joe Looney G Wake Forest
Shift him inside to C, where I think he wins that battle this season. Looney is a Jason Garrett type. Team leader, had to fight and claw to get where he is. Highly intelligent and will hold his teammates accountable. Sounds like someone we desperately need in our locker room. Love this guy, though I am not confident he'll still be on the board with this pick.
5(152) Coryell Judie CB Texas A&M
6(186) Brett Roy OLB Nevada
The defensive counterpart to Looney. Another team leader who will get in his teammate's face when needed. A high effort character guy who is scheme flexible. Solid college production. Extremely coachable. A team first guy. This is the reason why I don't like Shea McClellin. I can get the same type of player 3 or 4 rounds later in Roy. That's value.
7(222) Jeff Adams T Columbia

Good read. I have 1 question and 1 comment.

1. Why do you think that Looney can move to Center AND start in year 1? I didn't think he played any Center in college.

2. I think Brett Roy would be a good 6th round pick; however, I don't see any resemblence to Shea McClellin other than being a high effort guy. Roy was a tweener DE / DT in college while McClellin was a tweener DE / LB.

Roy is an interesting player. He's got an odd build with tree-trunks for legs. He looks faster on the field than his timed speed (5.07 and 4.86 forty), but I don't know about his coverage ability as a 3-4 SOLB. At 6'2.6", 275 he is on the short side for either 4-3 or 3-4 DE. His best shot might be to bulk up and play as a rotational 3-tech DT.
 
Nice job. I see Cox as and AD player (all day). He has a high motor, strength, quickness and some nastiness. An immediate upgrade.
 
Coples, Hightower and Brockers should make you hungry, because you'll likely be eating your words.
 
xwalker;4498687 said:
Good read. I have 1 question and 1 comment.

1. Why do you think that Looney can move to Center AND start in year 1? I didn't think he played any Center in college.

He didn't. It was just a projection I made. The start in year 1 comment was just how bad I feel the competition is right now at that spot. Some of these Gs will have to make the move and I think Looney has the ideal makeup to make that transition. I think it would be in his best interest as a pro player.

I'm not enamored with this C class. If we don't land Konz, I'd rather look to a G, whether it be one already on our roster or in the draft, as our next starting C.

2. I think Brett Roy would be a good 6th round pick; however, I don't see any resemblence to Shea McClellin other than being a high effort guy. Roy was a tweener DE / DT in college while McClellin was a tweener DE / LB.
Roy is an interesting player. He's got an odd build with tree-trunks for legs. He looks faster on the field than his timed speed (5.07 and 4.86 forty), but I don't know about his coverage ability as a 3-4 SOLB. At 6'2.6", 275 he is on the short side for either 4-3 or 3-4 DE. His best shot might be to bulk up and play as a rotational 3-tech DT.

I'm talking about the role they'd play here. Both would be situational edge rushers. McClellin's carrying a 2nd/3rd round grade right now, Roy's in the 5th/6th round. I don't see much difference between the two to account for that.

JMO, of course.
 
Risen Star;4498473 said:
I didn't realize 3-4 ends who can collapse the pocket grew on trees.

Okay. I'll play that game. Who do you want at 14? I'll see if I can find something comparable in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.
They don't. They're very rare. And Cox is the only one worth drafting.
 
Comments on Poe?

See he's awfully high in your top 50.
 
Hoofbite;4498746 said:
Comments on Poe?

See he's awfully high in your top 50.

I think he's getting a bad rap after the combine performance jumped him up the charts. He's a true 3-4 NT. He's not gonna make many plays in the backfield. To me, it's just a question of whether you feel that position is worthy of a top 15 pick. Conventional wisdom says no. I disagree.

Nawrocki says his upside is off the charts as he gets pro coaching and is surrounded by much better talent. I can't disagree with that. I'd put Kendall Reyes in that equation too. A guy who I think will be a better pro than college player.
 
Risen Star;4498755 said:
I think he's getting a bad rap after the combine performance jumped him up the charts. He's a true 3-4 NT. He's not gonna make many plays in the backfield. To me, it's just a question of whether you feel that position is worthy of a top 15 pick. Conventional wisdom says no. I disagree.

Nawrocki says his upside is off the charts as he gets pro coaching and is surrounded by much better talent. I can't disagree with that. I'd put Kendall Reyes in that equation too. A guy who I think will be a better pro than college player.

Sure but that's a risk.

You're essentially willing to take a redshirt year because he's not going to pick it all up right away. He has played 3 years of college football and while Memphis might be the taint of college football, I'd be hard pressed to believe they don't know at least the basics.

The idea of getting a guy who's a complete monster at NT is awesome but you have to really believe in your ability to develop talent in order to take that guy.

I just can't get beyond how unproductive he was when he was clearly bigger, faster and stronger than anyone he faced.
 
Risen Star;4498423 said:
He said he wanted an impact player at 14. What he means is he wants someone who he can see make plays more easily than a guy like Cox who facilitates those plays.

We are bad along the offensive line and very ordinary at the defensive line. We can only address one at 14 and Cox is the best talent, IMO. He'll make everybody better.

Couldn't agree more-Cox would be the perfect pick for us at #14 and Silatolu will make people forget DeCastro by the middle of year 2. Great mock.
 
i dont know when you guys are gonna realize that we arent going to draft any OG's in this draft, hence the FA signings, we addressed that position in last years draft, with the youngsters we took. We are not gonna take 2 OG's in our first 5 picks of this draft. maybe a center but no guards!! you should re-think your mock. this years draft will be primarily DEFENSE!!! with a TE, maybe a WR thrown in there.
 
CowboyChris;4498866 said:
i dont know when you guys are gonna realize that we arent going to draft any OG's in this draft, hence the FA signings, we addressed that position in last years draft, with the youngsters we took. We are not gonna take 2 OG's in our first 5 picks of this draft. maybe a center but no guards!! you should re-think your mock. this years draft will be primarily DEFENSE!!! with a TE, maybe a WR thrown in there.

You can't realistically plan on a 4th or 7th rounder to be the answer at some point in some best-case future.

And I don't think either G they signed prevents Dallas from drafting a G this year either.

They have a bunch of unknowns. What person is comfortable with Livings being the only guy with experience when his experience has been up and down the whole way?
 
Hoofbite;4498870 said:
You can't realistically plan on a 4th or 7th rounder to be the answer at some point in some best-case future.

And I don't think either G they signed prevents Dallas from drafting a G this year either.

They have a bunch of unknowns. What person is comfortable with Livings being the only guy with experience when his experience has been up and down the whole way?

it makes good business sense that we take a OLB and CB pretty high in this draft considering the contracts it will take for Spencer and Jenkins in the future, we have Livings, Bernadeau, Nagy, Arkin to get 2 guards from. at Spencers position you have Butler and??
 
CowboyChris;4498866 said:
i dont know when you guys are gonna realize that we arent going to draft any OG's in this draft, hence the FA signings, we addressed that position in last years draft, with the youngsters we took. We are not gonna take 2 OG's in our first 5 picks of this draft. maybe a center but no guards!! you should re-think your mock. this years draft will be primarily DEFENSE!!! with a TE, maybe a WR thrown in there.


Some people right.... the selfishness of these characters is simply astounding. Thankfully some can recognize the insanity.


This year is very weak on TEs in the Draft.
 
CowboyChris;4498876 said:
it makes good business sense that we take a OLB and CB pretty high in this draft considering the contracts it will take for Spencer and Jenkins in the future, we have Livings, Bernadeau, Nagy, Arkin to get 2 guards from. at Spencers position you have Butler and??

That's an entire offseason away. Basically Dallas has 2 drafts and a free agent period to replace either of those guys should they be too expensive.

I don't see how that would prevent Dallas from drafting a G.

Having a bunch of mid-low rounders to choose from is only slightly better than having nothing to choose from.

Cast off and low-round players can be had by the dozens if a team wants them.

I hope Dallas does go with a OLB at some point. It would be dumb not to.

But it would also be dumb to consider the G position to be so adequately addressed that a player at that position is no longer needed.

I think it would be entirely foolish for Dallas to not pick up a G in the draft.

Even if they took a G in the 1st round, they could still address OLB and CB in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

There are very few positions where this team should not take an opportunity to upgrade if it were available to them.
 
Hoofbite;4498885 said:
That's an entire offseason away. Basically Dallas has 2 drafts and a free agent period to replace either of those guys should they be too expensive.

I don't see how that would prevent Dallas from drafting a G.

Having a bunch of mid-low rounders to choose from is only slightly better than having nothing to choose from.

Cast off and low-round players can be had by the dozens if a team wants them.

I hope Dallas does go with a OLB at some point. It would be dumb not to.

But it would also be dumb to consider the G position to be so adequately addressed that a player at that position is no longer needed.

I think it would be entirely foolish for Dallas to not pick up a G in the draft.

Even if they took a G in the 1st round, they could still address OLB and CB in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

There are very few positions where this team should not take an opportunity to upgrade if it were available to them.

if a blue chip OG fell to us early, i wouldnt rule it out all together, but to take 2 OG's in our first 5 picks, is absurd
 
brooksey1;4498180 said:
Don't like the DT position being drafted in the RD1. G/C/S/CB is more pressing. If you want guard in RD 2 I like safety/CB in RD1.

You mean like the one in my sig? :D
 

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