My 53

[Zekeats]

QB Prescott, Rush, White
RB Elliott, Smith, Scarbrough
FB Olawale
WR Gallup, Hurns, Williams, Beasley, Austin, Lenoir, Brown
TE Jarwin, Swaim, Geathers, Shultz
OT Smith, Collins, Fleming
OG Martin, Williams, Looney, Edwards
C Frederick
DE Lawrence, Charlton, Gregory, Armstrong, Tapper
DT Collins, Woods, Ward, Crawford, Price
LB Lee, Smith, Vander Esh, Thomas, Wilson, Covington
CB Jones, Awuzie, Brown, Lewis, Ward
S Heath, Woods, Frazier
K Bailey
P Jones
LS Ladouceur

Irving will come back and replace one of Price, Woods, or Ward.
A safety will be added after cuts and will replace CB Ward.
An offensive lineman most likely will be added and replace Edwards or if Marcus Martin can make it back.
I have them keeping 11 between RB and WR. I don't have Thompson making this team. I would prefer to keep Brown over him. I think Brown is a poor mans Dez who can do a little of everything.

 

[TWOK11]

Looks good

 

[Falco78]

White is PS

 

[Risen Star]

8 OL is too light. Lose one of the TEs. They can't play anyway.

 

[Sydla]

I don’t get the obsession with putting a totally raw QB prospect who has done pretty much zero in camp on the 53.

Where is this Mike White hype coming from?

 

[Jumbo075]

OFFENSE - 24
QB - Prescott, Rush
RB - Olawale, Elliott, R.Smith, Scarbrough
TE - Swaim, Jarwin, Schultz
WR - Hurns, Williams, Beasley, Austin, Gallup, Thompson, Lenoir
OL - T.Smith, C.Williams, Frederick, Z.Martin, L.Collins, Looney, Fleming, Edwards

DEFENSE - 26 + 1 suspended
DE - Crawford, Lawrence, Gregory, Tapper, Charlton, Armstrong
DT - M.Collins, J.Ward, D.Jones, Price, A.Woods (Irving - suspended)
LB - Lee, J.Smith, Vander Esch, D.Wilson, J.Thomas, March-Lillard
CB - B.Jones, Awuzie, A.Brown, Lewis, C.Ward
S - Heath, E.Thomas, X.Woods, Frazier

SPECIALISTS - 3
PK - Bailey
P - C.Jones
LS - Ladouceur

Draft picks Covington and White go to the PS, and C.Wilson to IR. Cowboys will risk waiving Gathers, to see if they can get him to the PS. Cowboys trade conditional 3rd round pick to Seattle for Earl Thomas. Cowboys could try to trade Crawford or Tapper to clear space for Irving when he returns. Datone Jones on the bubble. Kony Ealy fails to make the cut, and could get traded before the end of pre-season if the Cowboys find a buyer.

 

[Cowboyny]

I don’t get the obsession with putting a totally raw QB prospect who has done pretty much zero in camp on the 53.

Where is this Mike White hype coming from?

White was drafted as a developmental QB. That position has the biggest learning curve on the next level. The team thought they could sneak Matt Moore thru waivers years ago, he was quickly snatched up and has had a good, productive career as a #2 QB. If a QB shows anything, they become very valuable. All us fans have seen is 1 pre-season game, we have no idea how he is performing each day at practice. Unless he shows absolutely nothing, unlikely they take a chance and put him thru waivers.

 

[Stash]

QB Prescott, Rush, White
RB Elliott, Smith, Scarbrough
FB Olawale
WR Gallup, Hurns, Williams, Beasley, Austin, Lenoir, Brown
TE Jarwin, Swaim, Geathers, Shultz
OT Smith, Collins, Fleming
OG Martin, Williams, Looney, Edwards
C Frederick
DE Lawrence, Charlton, Gregory, Armstrong, Tapper
DT Collins, Woods, Ward, Crawford, Price
LB Lee, Smith, Vander Esh, Thomas, Wilson, Covington
CB Jones, Awuzie, Brown, Lewis, Ward
S Heath, Woods, Frazier
K Bailey
P Jones
LS Ladouceur

Irving will come back and replace one of Price, Woods, or Ward.
A safety will be added after cuts and will replace CB Ward.
An offensive lineman most likely will be added and replace Edwards or if Marcus Martin can make it back.
I have them keeping 11 between RB and WR. I don't have Thompson making this team. I would prefer to keep Brown over him. I think Brown is a poor mans Dez who can do a little of everything.

I think that an excellent 53 overall.

The only two changes I would have as of today would be Thompson over Brown at receiver and March-Lillard over Covington at linebacker. But again, that's as of today. One other possibility would be Datone Jones making it.

 

[Stash]

I don’t get the obsession with putting a totally raw QB prospect who has done pretty much zero in camp on the 53.

Where is this Mike White hype coming from?

It's based on physical talent and potential over current production. And the fact that quarterback is the most valuable commodity in sports.

I don't consider him a lock, but I'm also aware that you don't want to let talent at such a valued position get away if you think he can develop.

 

[Stash]

8 OL is too light. Lose one of the TEs. They can't play anyway.

They barely have 8 linemen who can play.

 

[VACowboy]

OFFENSE - 24
QB - Prescott, Rush
RB - Olawale, Elliott, R.Smith, Scarbrough
TE - Swaim, Jarwin, Schultz
WR - Hurns, Williams, Beasley, Austin, Gallup, Thompson, Lenoir
OL - T.Smith, C.Williams, Frederick, Z.Martin, L.Collins, Looney, Fleming, Edwards

DEFENSE - 26 + 1 suspended
DE - Crawford, Lawrence, Gregory, Tapper, Charlton, Armstrong
DT - M.Collins, J.Ward, D.Jones, Price, A.Woods (Irving - suspended)
LB - Lee, J.Smith, Vander Esch, D.Wilson, J.Thomas, March-Lillard
CB - B.Jones, Awuzie, A.Brown, Lewis, C.Ward
S - Heath, E.Thomas, X.Woods, Frazier

SPECIALISTS - 3
PK - Bailey
P - C.Jones
LS - Ladouceur

Draft picks Covington and White go to the PS, and C.Wilson to IR. Cowboys will risk waiving Gathers, to see if they can get him to the PS. Cowboys trade conditional 3rd round pick to Seattle for Earl Thomas. Cowboys could try to trade Crawford or Tapper to clear space for Irving when he returns. Datone Jones on the bubble. Kony Ealy fails to make the cut, and could get traded before the end of pre-season if the Cowboys find a buyer.

I agree. In fact I posted something almost identical to this in another thread.

I see no way White or Covington makes the 53.

Edit: Unless White shows something in the last three PS games.

 

[Kage]

OFFENSE - 24
QB - Prescott, Rush
RB - Olawale, Elliott, R.Smith, Scarbrough
TE - Swaim, Jarwin, Schultz
WR - Hurns, Williams, Beasley, Austin, Gallup, Thompson, Lenoir
OL - T.Smith, C.Williams, Frederick, Z.Martin, L.Collins, Looney, Fleming, Edwards

DEFENSE - 26 + 1 suspended
DE - Crawford, Lawrence, Gregory, Tapper, Charlton, Armstrong
DT - M.Collins, J.Ward, D.Jones, Price, A.Woods (Irving - suspended)
LB - Lee, J.Smith, Vander Esch, D.Wilson, J.Thomas, March-Lillard
CB - B.Jones, Awuzie, A.Brown, Lewis, C.Ward
S - Heath, E.Thomas, X.Woods, Frazier

SPECIALISTS - 3
PK - Bailey
P - C.Jones
LS - Ladouceur

Draft picks Covington and White go to the PS, and C.Wilson to IR. Cowboys will risk waiving Gathers, to see if they can get him to the PS. Cowboys trade conditional 3rd round pick to Seattle for Earl Thomas. Cowboys could try to trade Crawford or Tapper to clear space for Irving when he returns. Datone Jones on the bubble. Kony Ealy fails to make the cut, and could get traded before the end of pre-season if the Cowboys find a buyer.

I'm not one in favor of the ET trade (for anything higher than a 4th) but I mostly agree with this.

 

[Stash]

OFFENSE - 24
QB - Prescott, Rush
RB - Olawale, Elliott, R.Smith, Scarbrough
TE - Swaim, Jarwin, Schultz
WR - Hurns, Williams, Beasley, Austin, Gallup, Thompson, Lenoir
OL - T.Smith, C.Williams, Frederick, Z.Martin, L.Collins, Looney, Fleming, Edwards

DEFENSE - 26 + 1 suspended
DE - Crawford, Lawrence, Gregory, Tapper, Charlton, Armstrong
DT - M.Collins, J.Ward, D.Jones, Price, A.Woods (Irving - suspended)
LB - Lee, J.Smith, Vander Esch, D.Wilson, J.Thomas, March-Lillard
CB - B.Jones, Awuzie, A.Brown, Lewis, C.Ward
S - Heath, E.Thomas, X.Woods, Frazier

SPECIALISTS - 3
PK - Bailey
P - C.Jones
LS - Ladouceur

Draft picks Covington and White go to the PS, and C.Wilson to IR. Cowboys will risk waiving Gathers, to see if they can get him to the PS. Cowboys trade conditional 3rd round pick to Seattle for Earl Thomas. Cowboys could try to trade Crawford or Tapper to clear space for Irving when he returns. Datone Jones on the bubble. Kony Ealy fails to make the cut, and could get traded before the end of pre-season if the Cowboys find a buyer.

A great 53 in my opinion. Mirrors my own exactly, save for the Earl Thomas trade happening. I still have White as my QB3 but if the deal does go down, I can see yours being exactly right.

Nice job!

 

[McKDaddy]

OFFENSE - 24
QB - Prescott, Rush
RB - Olawale, Elliott, R.Smith, Scarbrough
TE - Swaim, Jarwin, Schultz
WR - Hurns, Williams, Beasley, Austin, Gallup, Thompson, Lenoir
OL - T.Smith, C.Williams, Frederick, Z.Martin, L.Collins, Looney, Fleming, Edwards

DEFENSE - 26 + 1 suspended
DE - Crawford, Lawrence, Gregory, Tapper, Charlton, Armstrong
DT - M.Collins, J.Ward, D.Jones, Price, A.Woods (Irving - suspended)
LB - Lee, J.Smith, Vander Esch, D.Wilson, J.Thomas, March-Lillard
CB - B.Jones, Awuzie, A.Brown, Lewis, C.Ward
S - Heath, E.Thomas, X.Woods, Frazier

SPECIALISTS - 3
PK - Bailey
P - C.Jones
LS - Ladouceur

Draft picks Covington and White go to the PS, and C.Wilson to IR. Cowboys will risk waiving Gathers, to see if they can get him to the PS. Cowboys trade conditional 3rd round pick to Seattle for Earl Thomas. Cowboys could try to trade Crawford or Tapper to clear space for Irving when he returns. Datone Jones on the bubble. Kony Ealy fails to make the cut, and could get traded before the end of pre-season if the Cowboys find a buyer.

much closer to my view.
Jackson over scarbrough,
Rico stays
Thomas over C Ward, Ward to PS.
No trade for ET. (unless we can trade players only or players plus lower pick. Would allow us to open a couple spots to keep some younger players to give them a chance to develop)

 

[jterrell]

Good overall 53.
I'd lose the 4th TE and replace with a Safety. That could be a street FA or late cut.

Could see White being kept initially then cut later and added to practice squad after other teams have filled rosters.

 

[Jumbo075]

I'm not one in favor of the ET trade (for anything higher than a 4th) but I mostly agree with this.

A conditional 3rd round pick could go either way - upgraded to a higher pick or downgraded to a lower pick based on performance. If Earl Thomas helps the Cowboys win a Super Bowl, then a 1st round pick lost is acceptable.

It's based on physical talent and potential over current production. And the fact that quarterback is the most valuable commodity in sports.

I don't consider him a lock, but I'm also aware that you don't want to let talent at such a valued position get away if you think he can develop.

QB's such as White are available in every draft, and it is very unlikely he'd get poached by another team. I would think the odds are 90% or better the Cowboys can keep White on the PS, and let him improve for next year's training camp.

much closer to my view.
Jackson over scarbrough,
Rico stays
Thomas over C Ward, Ward to PS.
No trade for ET. (unless we can trade players only or players plus lower pick. Would allow us to open a couple spots to keep some younger players to give them a chance to develop)

• Jackson is damaged goods, having lost a year to injury, and bounced around the league. The Cowboys can likely keep Jackson on the PS this year, which is what they tried to do in 2016.
• I can see Rico staying, but it becomes a numbers game. Rico, Thompson and Lenoir are battling for the final two receivers positions, IMO. Thompson has the speed the Cowboys need, and he is ineligible for the PS. Lenoir has out performed Rico in training camp. I can also see the possibility of the Cowboys acquiring another veteran TE after the initial final 53-man squad cuts. So, by opening day, the Cowboys could have another TE on the roster to replace Rico. The issue with keeping Rico on the PS is that he has a much higher opinion of himself than his play has warranted. He's likely to try to sign with another team rather than staying the course with Dallas.
• I initially believed D.Thomas would be the 5th corner, but Ward has slightly outplayed him. That could change over the next 3 weeks, so I don't have a problem with you keeping Thomas over Ward.
• There are some Elite Defensive Backs that play well into their late 30's. Rod Woodson, Charles Woodson, Darrell Green, Deion Sanders, Darren Woodson, etc. played well into their 30's and continued to be top performers. I can see Earl Thomas falling into that group. Despite the youth movement, having Thomas on the backend is about more than just his athletic prowess. The guy knows how to play the position, and knows how to line up the defensive backfield. He is the type of player who, like Sean Lee, upgrades the play of those around him, and I think he's an exception to the rule about over-30 players. If I was the Cowboys front office, I would be willing to take the chance on him, as long as the new contract has some protection in case of injury. I really like Xavier Woods, but he's not in the same class as Thomas. Also, the Cowboys can afford to sign Thomas and still be well under the salary CAP in 2019.

 

[Stash]

QB's such as White are available in every draft, and it is very unlikely he'd get poached by another team. I would think the odds are 90% or better the Cowboys can keep White on the PS, and let him improve for next year's training camp.

"Quarterbacks"? Yes. There are guys that play quarterback available every year. But White has rare arm talent. You don't get guys like that every year, certainly not in the 5th round.

My own odds to get him to the practice squad are significantly lower than yours. I'd say a 50% tossup.

But I'll readily concede that his fate is yet to be decided.

 

[Jumbo075]

"Quarterbacks"? Yes. There are guys that play quarterback available every year. But White has rare arm talent. You don't get guys like that every year, certainly not in the 5th round.

My own odds to get him to the practice squad are significantly lower than yours. I'd say a 50% tossup.

But I'll readily concede that his fate is yet to be decided.

Chad Kelly has similar arm talent, and he was a 7th round pick last year (#253), earning the title of Mr. Irrelevant as the last pick in the 2017 draft.

 

[Stash]

Chad Kelly has similar arm talent, and he was a 7th round pick last year (#253), earning the title of Mr. Irrelevant as the last pick in the 2017 draft.

A 5th-6th round talent that fell due to character concerns. And he looks to have passed Paxton Lynch as the #2 quarterback on the Broncos roster. Kelly did make the Broncos roster last year, right? No, looks like he didn't.

Maybe as you said, the Cowboys can do the same with White? But it's always a gamble.

 

[Jumbo075]

A 5th-6th round talent that fell due to character concerns. And he looks to have passed Paxton Lynch as the #2 quarterback on the Broncos roster. Kelly did make the Broncos roster last year, right? No, looks like he didn't.

Maybe as you said, the Cowboys can do the same with White? But it's always a gamble.

Assuming a certain minimum level of arm talent which is required (Kellen Moore didn't have even that), the most important trait for a QB is brain processing speed, not arm talent. Reading defenses, quickly going through progressions, and having a mental clock to know when to get rid of the ball is much, much, much more important than having a big arm. Of course, it's nice when a QB has both a high speed processor AND a big arm.

So far in training camp, White hasn't shown that he has a high speed processor.