My Admiration For Romo

Idgit;3221280 said:
I didn't have you on ignore, but that button works two ways if you want to use it.

And if you don't want me to condescend, don't let me get into position to act superior. You do that by not having takes that suck so that you don't have to recant later. I sat through the entire offseason of nonsense on this board when it was completely obvious what kind of QB Tony Romo is. I went out on my limb and took my lumps. You're bats if you think I'm just going to pretend it wasn't obvious or annoying just because the tide is now overreacting in the opposite direction.

And this response is based on what? Clairvoyance?

Perhaps you should roll back your ego and understand wishful thinking and truth are two different aspects.

The guy that thinks Seabisket would beat Man-o-War gets to crow later, but in truth he didn't know jack squat until it became fact.

So your obvious comments are just that. Wishful thinking until he proves them correct.

Your crowing is arrogance.
 
TwoDeep3;3221111 said:
I thought that ball got away from him. Perhaps slipped in his hand. The trajectory of the ball, its arc was so uncharacteristic of a Romo thrown ball.

I think that's BS. He felt Juqua Parker, who blew past Witten, and forced it. It might have fluttered because he hit Parker on the followthrough, but Austin wasn't open when Romo released. It is *exactly* the kind of play he's been criticized for in the past.
 
zrinkill;3221311 said:
He had crap playing around him in 94, 96, 97, and 98?

Hmmmm

94 we spotted the 9ers 21 points. Happens.

96 we had Irvin-gate.

97 we had Billy davis, Anthony Miller and Stepfret Williams across from Irvin. That qualifies as crap.

98 we had Patrick Jeffers, Jeff Ogden and Ernie Mills who was still nursing an injury from the Steelers. We had Irvin but the truth of the matter is while Irvin made Harper better, so too Harper caused teams to respect the other guy.

Even in 95 we had Kevin Williams who was lights out better than any of the other crap in the later years.

That didn't diminish Troy's abilities until concussions took their toll.

Crap is crap.
 
kmd24;3221423 said:
I think that's BS. He felt Juqua Parker, who blew past Witten, and forced it. It might have fluttered because he hit Parker on the followthrough, but Austin wasn't open when Romo released. It is *exactly* the kind of play he's been criticized for in the past.

Have you met idgit? I suggest you take this up with him.
 
TwoDeep3;3221425 said:
94 we spotted the 9ers 21 points. Happens.

96 we had Irvin-gate.

97 we had Billy davis, Anthony Miller and Stepfret Williams across from Irvin. That qualifies as crap.

98 we had Patrick Jeffers, Jeff Ogden and Ernie Mills who was still nursing an injury from the Steelers. We had Irvin but the truth of the matter is while Irvin made Harper better, so too Harper caused teams to respect the other guy.

Even in 95 we had Kevin Williams who was lights out better than any of the other crap in the later years.

That didn't diminish Troy's abilities until concussions took their toll.

Crap is crap.

So you do not think those teams were better than what Romo has had up until this year?
 
TwoDeep3;3221088 said:
How many years did he sit and learn. That is something most don't factor in but surely warrants attention.

Marry that with his ability to control the gambler aspect and know when to throw 'em and know when to hold 'em was key for me.

There are a lot of guys over the last four decades that can heave the rock. using your intellect to risk at the right time is what turns talent into a professional quarterback.

In the past Romo would risk where the reward wasn't justified. he is a different player now. So that aspect along with his sitting and learning meant he should have come along soon in my mind. I don't expect you to agree here.

But I have been accused of hating Romo and that was never the case. I have been around a long time and seen the Clint Longelys, and Gary Hogebooms and Steve Pelleurs and even the Danny Whites.

Romo has now proven to me he is not cut from that gnarled branch.

Accept it or not. I'm just voicing my opinion and maybe epiphany.

TwoDeep I have read your posts enough to know you are not a Romo hater. As a matter of fact more than times not, I agree with you on most subjects.

In terms of Romo, obviously we have not agreed. I understand sitting on the bench can be very beneficial, but it is no substitute for playing.

Regardless of how many years one has sit on the bench or played for that matter it stands to reason that a player should only get better at least in terms of the mental aspect of the game.

Warts and all, I still do not or did not see any real possibilities of finding someone that could unseat Romo anytime soon.
 
TwoDeep3;3221382 said:
And this response is based on what? Clairvoyance?

Perhaps you should roll back your ego and understand wishful thinking and truth are two different aspects.

The guy that thinks Seabisket would beat Man-o-War gets to crow later, but in truth he didn't know jack squat until it became fact.

So your obvious comments are just that. Wishful thinking until he proves them correct.

Your crowing is arrogance.

Is it a surprise to you in your life that people who are right are arrogant about it? Let's just agree to disagree on what Tony Romo has proven to-date in his career. You can stick to making admiration threads for unproven QBs and rationalizing why you do it to the rest of us. I'll just stick to being smug about it when it happens and waiting anxiously for your 'Demarcus Ware Appreciation!' thread.
 
I've bashed Romo in the past a lot. A lot of it was because I actually believed he had the potential to be better . It'd make me angry when he wouldn't secure the ball, when he'd make stupid decisions or force passes.

But the guy has turned it around. He's not emulating Brady anymore. He's playing Romo ball, only smarter. He's securing the ball when he guys get close. He's thinking more and not forcing passes. I'd rather he take a sack and chuck up a duck that will get picked. The guy has improved the little things that could be fixed.

It'd be hard to say that he has not improved as a QB more this season than any other before.

And yes, I've eaten my crow and then some...
 
TwoDeep3;3221429 said:
Have you met idgit? I suggest you take this up with him.

No, it's directed at you because you made some ridiculous claims earlier in the season, and now the only thing that is different is the result.

I've always maintained that Romo is a fantastic quarterback. You're like the guy in the Bud Lite commercial that comes busting through the fence in the monster truck to announce his arrival.

You're late to the party, and, I for one think you ought to have your ears boxed a little for coming in now to tell the rest of us what we already knew, especially since the situation isn't a whole lot different from earlier weeks.
 
kmd24;3221629 said:
No, it's directed at you because you made some ridiculous claims earlier in the season, and now the only thing that is different is the result.

I've always maintained that Romo is a fantastic quarterback. You're like the guy in the Bud Lite commercial that comes busting through the fence in the monster truck to announce his arrival.

You're late to the party, and, I for one think you ought to have your ears boxed a little for coming in now to tell the rest of us what we already knew, especially since the situation isn't a whole lot different from earlier weeks.

Ouch. I'd started an 'ain't got nothin' but love for kmd24' reply and then thought better about sending it because it was obvious.

But the Bud Light commercial reference deserves props, because you nailed it. I'm going to fade into the background on this thread for a bit and go over to the Thank You Wade section for some backslapping.
 
kmd24;3221629 said:
No, it's directed at you because you made some ridiculous claims earlier in the season, and now the only thing that is different is the result.

I've always maintained that Romo is a fantastic quarterback. You're like the guy in the Bud Lite commercial that comes busting through the fence in the monster truck to announce his arrival.

You're late to the party, and, I for one think you ought to have your ears boxed a little for coming in now to tell the rest of us what we already knew, especially since the situation isn't a whole lot different from earlier weeks.

I didn't write the post for you or your opinion. I merely was stating my position on the guy now.

Your ear boxing comment is interesting. But then the internet is full of flat screen Mike Tysons.

I bet you were a Qwinthy guy. Or maybe Clint Stoerner. Or both.

Funny how those fans shut up after the guys proved they weren't the answers. But to be sure there were people who KNEW about them.

I've been fortunate to watch this team since the inception. Save for a year in South East Asia I have seen most of the games.

Up until this season the different between Romo and guys like Jeff George and Ryan Leaf and others who had immense talent but questionable ability to pick up the mental aspects of the game was very little.

If you recall there were a great number of fans that thought Steve Walsh should have been the quarterback we kept instead of Aikman.

So pardon me if I don't genuflect at your superior football knowledge.

There is an experience factor that is either learned from or not. It was up in the air at one point whether he could grasp it all. His pretty passes didn't make up for some really curious decisions.

Regardless of the back patting you and other fans are doing to yourselves, I need to see him deliver consistently before I make wild-eyed claims of greatness.
 
I interpret the OP as an instert-foot-in-mouth post, nothing more, nothing less.
 
TwoDeep3;3221780 said:
Up until this season the different between Romo and guys like Jeff George and Ryan Leaf and others who had immense talent but questionable ability to pick up the mental aspects of the game was very little.
You appear less and less intelligent with every post you make .
 
kmd24;3221629 said:
No, it's directed at you because you made some ridiculous claims earlier in the season, and now the only thing that is different is the result.

I've always maintained that Romo is a fantastic quarterback. You're like the guy in the Bud Lite commercial that comes busting through the fence in the monster truck to announce his arrival.

You're late to the party, and, I for one think you ought to have your ears boxed a little for coming in now to tell the rest of us what we already knew, especially since the situation isn't a whole lot different from earlier weeks.

I agree. It's like he never was good/great until TwoDeep3 says he is. And since he says he is, well, he is now.

Hilarious and stupid at the same time.
 
Idgit;3221092 said:
We're just going to have to pretend not to have noticed all the people hopping on and off the guy's bandwagon. They're not going to admit to faithlessness, or they're going to pretend these new leadership qualities are the result of something he did different this season and how happy they are that he finally 'gets it.'

If there's a better solution than just welcoming them back for now and putting them back on ignore again later, I'd be glad to hear it, but I think in the interest of board harmony, we just have to snark every now and then and just roll with it.

Exactly.
 
I think TooDeep's gotten tired of being the middle-man in this choke-n-poke. Can I say choke-n-poke on this board if I'm using it as a metaphor?
 
TwoDeep3;3221780 said:
So pardon me if I don't genuflect at your superior football knowledge.

There's one person in this thread acting as if he deserves genuflecting, and you'll find him by glancing in your mirror.
 
TwoDeep3;3221088 said:
How many years did he sit and learn. That is something most don't factor in but surely warrants attention.

Marry that with his ability to control the gambler aspect and know when to throw 'em and know when to hold 'em was key for me.

There are a lot of guys over the last four decades that can heave the rock. using your intellect to risk at the right time is what turns talent into a professional quarterback.

In the past Romo would risk where the reward wasn't justified. he is a different player now. So that aspect along with his sitting and learning meant he should have come along soon in my mind. I don't expect you to agree here.

But I have been accused of hating Romo and that was never the case. I have been around a long time and seen the Clint Longelys, and Gary Hogebooms and Steve Pelleurs and even the Danny Whites.

Romo has now proven to me he is not cut from that gnarled branch.

Accept it or not. I'm just voicing my opinion and maybe epiphany.

Tony Romo, as an aspiring starting quarterback standing around, clipboarding and soaking in what happens on the field and getting reinforcement of what is happening on and off the field most definitely helps.

But come on when a quarterback gets on the field in real games his senses and brain have to deal with performing on a completely different and accelerated level. And that is where you are gaining your true quarterbacking experience right behind center in the heat of defensive pressured battle while having to pass execute like a wizard.

I know you don't hate Tony Romo I have been around Mondo Rancho long enough over the years posting right along with you to know you are not that type of cat. But I do believe you have a shorter tolerance with Tony Romo because of the accumulation of all those those quarterback starter failures coupled with the playoff drought.

Who cares how you have been perceived rightly or wrongly. Our team is playing significantly better and we are contenders again. This has affected every poster in Cowboy Nation who really gives a ***** about this team. So TwoDeep let's savor the scenario and hope for the best possible winning outcome - the Superbowl.
 
The proof was there in the first season. Here was a complete unknown from out of nowhere who put up numbers that, when considered together, made for one of the greatest all-around seasons ever for a Dallas QB. That was unquestionable, even then.

And everything since then has been refinement.

I have no idea how it could be anything less than obvious that this guy is the real deal, except for those people who don't think it stinks until you step in it.
 

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