My concern with Miles Austin "getting more opportunities" vs STARTING!

[THEHEREAFTER]

So we find an UDFA ... watched him develop... saw glimpses of hands/speed/play making ability. He finally gets his chance to start and DELIVERS. He delivered early. He delivered often. He delivered in the clutch. He delivered to a team with questions swirling around replacing the "big play" production of a departed receiver. He delivered with more questions that have yet to be answered regarding our big acquisition receiver. Our QB targeted him often and looks to be in rhythm.

Ok.. I think Crayton is a valued member of our receiving core. This should not be overlooked but I don't get why it's his "right" to start?

Everything I'm reading suggests Miles will not start but will get "increased opportunity"... IMO this is not like the RB position in general and not like our situation in 06/07 where MBIII was our obvious horse and closer who was going to get the bulk of the work.

For a WR .. one with unique ability.. he needs to start and play the majority of snaps to get in rhythm and get in game flow. Not to beat a dead horse and state the obvious but I think we've found something in Miles. Exactly what the offense needs. I think he's shown that he actually NEEDS to be the starter and at best be the 1B possibly 1A receiver. At worst the #2. Thoughts?

 

[Doomsday101]

So we drafted a guy... watched him develop... saw glimpses of hands/speed/play making ability. He finally gets his chance to start and DELIVERS. He delivered early. He delivered often. He delivered in the clutch. He delivered to a team with questions swirling around replacing the "big play" production of a departed receiver. He delivered with more questions that have yet to be answered regarding our big acquisition receiver. Our QB targeted him often and looks to be in rhythm.

Ok.. I think Crayton is a valued member of our receiving core. This should not be overlooked but I don't get why it's his "right" to start?

Everything I'm reading suggests Miles will not start but will get "increased opportunity"... IMO this is not like the RB position in general and not like our situation in 06/07 where MBIII was our obvious horse and closer who was going to get the bulk of the work.

For a WR .. one with unique ability.. he needs to start and play the majority of snaps to get in rhythm and get in game flow. Not to beat a dead horse and state the obvious but I think we've found something in Miles. Exactly what the offense needs. I think he's shown that he actually NEEDS to be the starter and at best be the 1B possibly 1A receiver. At worst the #2. Thoughts?

I think if he is in on 50 something plays as Wade suggested he will have the chance to get into the flow of the game regardless if he is in on the very 1st play of the game or not.

 

[ROUSH8692]

It doesnt matter who starts... it matters who finishes. Miles finishes.

For gods sake hes the receiver with the most yards in one game for the cowboys, yes even more than bob hayes the HOFer.. lol

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

I think if he is in on 50 something plays as Wade suggested he will have the chance to get into the flow of the game regardless if he is in on the very 1st play of the game or not.

Remains to be seen.. but answer me this. What magnetic force is keeping him from the STARTING LINE-UP!? Why are we so hesitant to actually start him? Watching us struggle to get big plays vs. Carolina/Denver was nauseating!

 

[CATCH17]

Whether he starts or not isn't a big deal.

As long as he is on the field for the majority of the game.



I do not trust Jason Garrett to get him on the field though so I think they should just name him the starter and make his role on the team clear.

Do not go away from Miles Austin Jason. Dont do it!

Don't make him run 25 yards down field every play either. Just get the ball in his hands and let him do the rest.

 

[Dodger]

I've wanted Miles to start since the season began.

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

It doesnt matter who starts... it matters who finishes. Miles finishes.

For gods sake hes the receiver with the most yards in one game for the cowboys, yes even more than bob hayes the HOFer.. lol

Sure it matters who starts! Would it make sense for the Colts to bring in Reggie Wayne (not saying Miles is Reggie) off the bench? There is a reason he starts. And given your final statement... start him already... I promise you he doesn't get as many looks coming in.. in spots or rotating.. just not how the game works..

 

[21Savage]

I think he got 58 plays in an overtime game and Wade sade he's gonna get 50+ plays from now on. He's either starting or it's gonna be some Ellis/Spencer situation from last year when Wade is just being stupid, trying to protect some phantom veteran pride or dignity. Either way, we're gonna give him an opportunity.

6'3, 215, 4.4 40, 40 inch vertical, 24 year old receivers don't grow on trees. Like you said, we've developed him and to me he's like a first round pick. We need to see what we have in him now before a contract is done.

 

[Doomsday101]

Remains to be seen.. but answer me this. What magnetic force is keeping him from the STARTING LINE-UP!? Why are we so hesitant to actually start him? Watching us struggle to get big plays vs. Carolina/Denver was nauseating!

I want him to start I think he went out played a great game and should be given this opportunity based on his play, I think he earned that opportunity. You are right it remains to be seen I can only go by what the team is saying in regards to Miles seeing major playing time. We will see.

 

[CATCH17]

I think he got 58 plays in an overtime game and Wade sade he's gonna get 50+ plays from now on. He's either starting or it's gonna be some Ellis/Spencer situation from last year when Wade is just being stupid, trying to protect some phantom veteran pride or dignity. Either way, we're gonna give him an opportunity.

6'3, 215, 4.4 40, 40 inch vertical, 24 year old receivers don't grow on trees. Like you said, we've developed him and to me he's like a first round pick. We need to see what we have in him now before a contract is done.

I dont think Wade was trying to protect anything. Ellis was our 2nd best pass rusher. You have to play your best people.

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

Whether he starts or not isn't a big deal.

Sure it does IMO. I just don't think he gets those types of looks in spot duty.

As long as he is on the field for the majority of the game.

My concern is that we have 3 good backs... multiple two tight end sets .. and a plethora of options.. My fear is the he gets lost in the shuffle if he doesn't start.

I do not trust Jason Garrett to get him on the field though so I think they should just name him the starter and make his role on the team clear.

Do not go away from Miles Austin Jason. Dont do it!

Don't make him run 25 yards down field every play either. Just get the ball in his hands and let him do the rest

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Me neither. I just hope we don't treat his first start as a fluke. I don't think it was.

 

[craig71]

I think it boils down to Miles being a consistant player.If he can be consistant week in week out he needs to be given more snaps.I don't think it's realistic to say that one game should propel him into the starting lineup,however his performance does warrant more playing time to determine if he can be a consistant player for us.It would be in the teams best interest if he were to bud into a starting receiver thus putting Crayton back in the slot where he is a better fit.

Craig

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

I think it boils down to Miles being a consistant player.If he can be consistant week in week out he needs to be given more snaps.I don't think it's realistic to say that one game should propel him into the starting lineup,however his performance does warrant more playing time to determine if he can be a consistant player for us.It would be in the teams best interest if he were to bud into a starting receiver thus putting Crayton back in the slot where he is a better fit.

Craig

What came first the chicken or the egg? We gave him the opportunity to start and look what you discovered? Continue to start him and let's determine his ability that way. My question which nobody has tackled yet.. Assuming RW starts based on size/hands/ability (although not fully manifested yet)--- why does Patrick Crayton "deserve" to start? It's not just the fact that Crayton looked sloppy last game. It's not simply the fact that Miles is bigger, stronger, faster, posseses equally good hands, and is more elusive. Does anyone believe Crayton has that type of ability? He's had good games in the past but it's obvious he does not have that type of ability and can still contribute from the slot/off the bench.

 

[21Savage]

I dont think Wade was trying to protect anything. Ellis was our 2nd best pass rusher. You have to play your best people.

Yeah, but Spencer was our 2nd best 1st 2 downs player. We started Ellis the first series of the game, after Spencer got healthy, but Spencer took over 1st and 2nd downs the rest of the game. Spencer should've been starting with Ellis coming in on 3rd downs.

When Wade was questioned about the convolution he said it was because it meant a lot to Ellis to start. :bang2:

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

I dont think Wade was trying to protect anything. Ellis was our 2nd best pass rusher. You have to play your best people.

If Spencer had .. say a 4 sack game last year or in '07.. I may have argued the same..

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Start him and put Crayton in the slot, it's not rocket science. I think Dallas will stall it out because they don't want Atlanta to know who will be starting.

 

[Doomsday101]

What came first the chicken or the egg? We gave him the opportunity to start and look what you discovered? Continue to start him and let's determine his ability that way. My question which nobody has tackled yet.. Assuming RW starts based on size/hands/ability (although not fully manifested yet)--- why does Patrick Crayton "deserve" to start? It's not just the fact that Crayton looked sloppy last game. It's not simply the fact that Miles is bigger, stronger, faster, posseses equally good hands, and is more elusive. Does anyone believe Crayton has that type of ability? He's had good games in the past but it's obvious he does not have that type of ability and can still contribute from the slot/off the bench.

We really do not know who will start and the Cowboys really are not saying. Why show your hand until you have to.

 

[craig71]

What came first the chicken or the egg? We gave him the opportunity to start and look what you discovered? Continue to start him and let's determine his ability that way. My question which nobody has tackled yet.. Assuming RW starts based on size/hands/ability (although not fully manifested yet)--- why does Patrick Crayton "deserve" to start? It's not just the fact that Crayton looked sloppy last game. It's not simply the fact that Miles is bigger, stronger, faster, posseses equally good hands, and is more elusive. Does anyone believe Crayton has that type of ability? He's had good games in the past but it's obvious he does not have that type of ability and can still contribute from the slot/off the bench.

I think they discovered he needs more snaps to determine if he can be a starter.Don't just hand him the job based on one game,lets see him string together a few games before naming him the starter.As far as Crayton deserving to start,he's a proven commodity unlike Austin at this time.It also has been widely reported that Crayton has the best hands on the team,I don't believe the same has been said of Austin.Point i'm trying to make is that there is nothing wrong with being proactive,but lets not jump out of the pan and into the fire.

Craig

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

We really do not know who will start and the Cowboys really are not saying. Why show your hand until you have to.

Good point. From what I've read and given Wade's lack of decisiveness, I'm not confident he starts. I hope I'm wrong.. If we're not showing our cards to Atl.. I'm fine with that. Just speculating

 

[Doomsday101]

Good point. From what I've read and given Wade's lack of decisiveness, I'm not confident he starts. I hope I'm wrong.. If we're not showing our cards to Atl.. I'm fine with that. Just speculating

I believe Wade when he says Austin is going to see as much playing time as he did this past game. I am confident that Wade wants to win and is willing to do what he has to do. I doubt he is overly worried about hurting feeling as so many love to say around here not when Dallas just turned around and brought new return man instead of sticking with Crayton.