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Well the Pacman deal has been agreed to.

Dallas sends a 4th round pick this year to the Titans for his rights.
Pacman has restructured his contract such that he has no guaranteed money in a new four year pact but the exact totals haven't been released yet.

If Pacman plays this year and meets some playing time incentives Tennessee will receive a 6th round pick next season, if he remains suspended this year, Dallas will receive the Titans 4th round pick in 2009.

In the end the deal has a lot of covering of behinds in it. Dallas is protecting itself against further Jones suspension and Tenn is trying to get a pick while the getting is good before Jones does something else. Dallas is also tying Jones' salary to his performance and availability in a way that has worked quite well with Terrell Owens.

I am sure you've all heard about the 12 police incidents and 6 arrests Adam Pacman Jones has brought upon himself. What you may not have heard is that he is only 24 years old. That's the age of Terence Newman when Dallas DRAFTED him. So Adam Jones does potentially offer you a long term solution at CB. Or he could be the next Duane Goodrich. Time will tell, but the investment was barebones. Jerry Jones is a gambler and right now he is playing with house money. T.O. has worked out fine, Tank Johnson has worked out fine and Jerry deserves some latitude with the rain-man here. After all in the end it is a 4th and possibly 6th round pick for a former 6th overall selection who has Pro Bowl caliber ability as a CB and return man.

What does this mean for the roster and draft?

I think it means you consider Pacman and Henry co 2nd CBs. Henry has had injury issues and Pacman tends to end up in handcuffs. Between the two of them you hopefully get a full season of 2nd CB play at a ridiculously high level. BUT you still have to recognize them as risks and go get another CB. Dallas lost both Nate Jones and Jacque Reeves this off-season. They need to draft a CB even with this signing.

Last minute Cowboy draft thoughts.

22. I think with the Pacman addition Dallas will use this slot to improve the offense. They'd still love to move it to Detroit for Roy Williams but if they can not get a proven vet Wr they'll simply go RB/WR imho. Felix Jones is the usual suggestion and with good reason. My apologies to the Cowboys legion who read that pick at 22. Johnathan Stewart is the better player but he has injury concerns and Dallas wants to make a run at the Lombardi this year.

28. I think this is trade down territory. What better way to recoup that 4th rounder then to move down to Atlanta's spot.

34. This allows the Falcs to move up and take Brohm or Flacco. With Atlanta's high second Dallas can choose between Antoine Cason and Brandon Flowers as the de facto 3rd CB and fourth guy on the depth chart.

61. I suspect Dallas would love a WR here and a guy they like is Early Doucet.
 

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I really HOPE that Jonathan Stewart is there at 22. Not sure how much Jerry likes the kid but I think Jonathan will do well in the NFL.
 

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One more detail to the deal thats been uncovered is that if Pacman gets reinstated but then gets suspended again during the season the Cowboys get the Titans 5th round pick in 2009.
 

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speedkilz88;2048138 said:
One more detail to the deal thats been uncovered is that if Pacman gets reinstated but then gets suspended again during the season the Cowboys get the Titans 5th round pick in 2009.

Really?

Wow, looks like Jerry covered all the bases on this one. IF we can get Adam Jones back on the "Straight-&-Narrow", this will go down as one of Jerry's best trades ever... if not, we break even. I think the guys who are saying this trade stinks are just JJ haters, or they don't understand the value of even a decent CB in this day and age.
 

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speedkilz88;2048138 said:
One more detail to the deal thats been uncovered is that if Pacman gets reinstated but then gets suspended again during the season the Cowboys get the Titans 5th round pick in 2009.
I heard it was a 4th not a 5th.
 

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jterrell, this is a VERY good read and thanks for a write up that is both succinct and well written. The folks at the DMN and ST could take lessons from you. We'll see how your predictions turn out, but regardless of the outcome,....Well Done!
 

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big dog cowboy;2048159 said:
I heard it was a 4th not a 5th.

If he doesn't play next year... we get the Titans 4th in '09

If he plays, but gets suspended again... we get the Titans 5th in '09

If he plays & stays out of trouble... we have given a low 4th in '08, and a 6th in '09.
 

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If he doesn't play next year... we get the Titans 4th in '09

If he plays, but gets suspended again... we get the Titans 5th in '09

If he plays & stays out of trouble... we have given a low 4th in '08, and a 6th in '09.
Correct.
 

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Stewart is by far a better runner than Felix Jones, and Stewart ran almost as fast as Felix Jones with a hurt toe at the combine. If both players are there at #22 and Dallas figures they are the best players on their board they would be wise to get Stewart
 

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mboy22;2048177 said:
Stewart is by far a better runner than Felix Jones
Wow...that's a broad statement and certainly not supported by almost anything I've read...if you want to suggest that he's more durable or a stronger runner inside due to his wt. and strength, okay...but better runner??? I don't think so. The knock on Stewart is that he has straight line speed, but very little quickness and takes a while to get going...that didn't hurt him because he played in an extremely spread offense with enormous holes to run through...but how will that translate to the NFL style is the big question.

Felix is considered the quicker, more elusive, bigger big play threat, and more NFL ready RB who will make big contributions in a tandem situation like ours...Stewart may be one of those guys who would be a better carry the load RB if he gets 20-25 carries, but may be a non-factor fill-in if only touching the ball 10 + times a game.

mboy22;2048177 said:
Stewart ran almost as fast as Felix Jones with a hurt toe at the combine. If both players are there at #22 and Dallas figures they are the best players on their board they would be wise to get Stewart

It's all about opinions, and no one knows for sure, but if the Cowboys select Jones or even a 2nd rounder later over Stewart, I wouldn't get all upset...I'd trust that they know how they plan to use the guy and what they are looking for.
 

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jterrell;2048131 said:
Well the Pacman deal has been agreed to.

Dallas sends a 4th round pick this year to the Titans for his rights.
Pacman has restructured his contract such that he has no guaranteed money in a new four year pact but the exact totals haven't been released yet.

If Pacman plays this year and meets some playing time incentives Tennessee will receive a 6th round pick next season, if he remains suspended this year, Dallas will receive the Titans 4th round pick in 2009.

In the end the deal has a lot of covering of behinds in it. Dallas is protecting itself against further Jones suspension and Tenn is trying to get a pick while the getting is good before Jones does something else. Dallas is also tying Jones' salary to his performance and availability in a way that has worked quite well with Terrell Owens.

I am sure you've all heard about the 12 police incidents and 6 arrests Adam Pacman Jones has brought upon himself. What you may not have heard is that he is only 24 years old. That's the age of Terence Newman when Dallas DRAFTED him. So Adam Jones does potentially offer you a long term solution at CB. Or he could be the next Duane Goodrich. Time will tell, but the investment was barebones. Jerry Jones is a gambler and right now he is playing with house money. T.O. has worked out fine, Tank Johnson has worked out fine and Jerry deserves some latitude with the rain-man here. After all in the end it is a 4th and possibly 6th round pick for a former 6th overall selection who has Pro Bowl caliber ability as a CB and return man.

What does this mean for the roster and draft?

I think it means you consider Pacman and Henry co 2nd CBs. Henry has had injury issues and Pacman tends to end up in handcuffs. Between the two of them you hopefully get a full season of 2nd CB play at a ridiculously high level. BUT you still have to recognize them as risks and go get another CB. Dallas lost both Nate Jones and Jacque Reeves this off-season. They need to draft a CB even with this signing.

Last minute Cowboy draft thoughts.

22. I think with the Pacman addition Dallas will use this slot to improve the offense. They'd still love to move it to Detroit for Roy Williams but if they can not get a proven vet Wr they'll simply go RB/WR imho. Felix Jones is the usual suggestion and with good reason. My apologies to the Cowboys legion who read that pick at 22. Johnathan Stewart is the better player but he has injury concerns and Dallas wants to make a run at the Lombardi this year.

28. I think this is trade down territory. What better way to recoup that 4th rounder then to move down to Atlanta's spot.

34. This allows the Falcs to move up and take Brohm or Flacco. With Atlanta's high second Dallas can choose between Antoine Cason and Brandon Flowers as the de facto 3rd CB and fourth guy on the depth chart.

61. I suspect Dallas would love a WR here and a guy they like is Early Doucet.

add Indiana's Tracy Porter to that list
 

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You have to mention trade up if you are covering everything.

Anyone who dismisses that idea just because Jerry tried to throw cold water on all the trade up talk is being gullible. If the right scenario presents itself Jerry would look to move up.
 

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jterrell;2048131 said:
Well the Pacman deal has been agreed to.

Dallas sends a 4th round pick this year to the Titans for his rights.
Pacman has restructured his contract such that he has no guaranteed money in a new four year pact but the exact totals haven't been released yet.

If Pacman plays this year and meets some playing time incentives Tennessee will receive a 6th round pick next season, if he remains suspended this year, Dallas will receive the Titans 4th round pick in 2009.

In the end the deal has a lot of covering of behinds in it. Dallas is protecting itself against further Jones suspension and Tenn is trying to get a pick while the getting is good before Jones does something else. Dallas is also tying Jones' salary to his performance and availability in a way that has worked quite well with Terrell Owens.

I am sure you've all heard about the 12 police incidents and 6 arrests Adam Pacman Jones has brought upon himself. What you may not have heard is that he is only 24 years old. That's the age of Terence Newman when Dallas DRAFTED him. So Adam Jones does potentially offer you a long term solution at CB. Or he could be the next Duane Goodrich. Time will tell, but the investment was barebones. Jerry Jones is a gambler and right now he is playing with house money. T.O. has worked out fine, Tank Johnson has worked out fine and Jerry deserves some latitude with the rain-man here. After all in the end it is a 4th and possibly 6th round pick for a former 6th overall selection who has Pro Bowl caliber ability as a CB and return man.

What does this mean for the roster and draft?

I think it means you consider Pacman and Henry co 2nd CBs. Henry has had injury issues and Pacman tends to end up in handcuffs. Between the two of them you hopefully get a full season of 2nd CB play at a ridiculously high level. BUT you still have to recognize them as risks and go get another CB. Dallas lost both Nate Jones and Jacque Reeves this off-season. They need to draft a CB even with this signing.

Last minute Cowboy draft thoughts.

22. I think with the Pacman addition Dallas will use this slot to improve the offense. They'd still love to move it to Detroit for Roy Williams but if they can not get a proven vet Wr they'll simply go RB/WR imho. Felix Jones is the usual suggestion and with good reason. My apologies to the Cowboys legion who read that pick at 22. Johnathan Stewart is the better player but he has injury concerns and Dallas wants to make a run at the Lombardi this year.

28. I think this is trade down territory. What better way to recoup that 4th rounder then to move down to Atlanta's spot.

34. This allows the Falcs to move up and take Brohm or Flacco. With Atlanta's high second Dallas can choose between Antoine Cason and Brandon Flowers as the de facto 3rd CB and fourth guy on the depth chart.

61. I suspect Dallas would love a WR here and a guy they like is Early Doucet.

Theres where I have a problem. I don't see how Stewart can have concerns about his injury because when injured, he performed damn well at the combine. If the injury is supposed to slow him down, it didn't.
 

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Does dcc stand for something other than Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders?

Racking my brain trying to decipher that.
 

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Hostile;2048492 said:
Does dcc stand for something other than Dallas Cowboys Cheerleaders?

Racking my brain trying to decipher that.

rofl, my bad, it is dallas cowboys column:)
 

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CaptainAmerica;2048432 said:
You have to mention trade up if you are covering everything.

Anyone who dismisses that idea just because Jerry tried to throw cold water on all the trade up talk is being gullible. If the right scenario presents itself Jerry would look to move up.

I do not suspect a trade up in round 1 is even remotely possible.

We have already given up a 4th rounder and moving up again would be Dan Snyder-esque not Jerry Jones.
 

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Hostile;2048539 said:
I like your column, but I like the cheerleaders better.

;)

thx and if you send me a dc cheerleader i'll gladly pass along the column to anyone who wants it.
 

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jterrell;2048765 said:
thx and if you send me a dc cheerleader i'll gladly pass along the column to anyone who wants it.
http://i43.***BLOCKED***/albums/e390/KoRnKiD05/cheer.jpg
 
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