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[Future]

I would fire Red today. Wade got fired after the performance in GB just like this one.

And I dont even care who we bring in it doesn't matter. Nobody could do any worse, and new blood is always a good thing. Everything in Dallas is stale, and JG is a main reason why.

 

[Future]

By the same token we knew how Ryan game plans and runs his defense and we tried to use that knowledge to our gain and fell flat on our face doing so.

Add this one to the list. JG has never been able to take advantage of weaknesses on other defenses.

 

[maxdallasfan]

Our pathetic offense is why letting Dez walk in two years is a good idea. The only guy on O who should be getting paid is Smith.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I think the defensive performance was poor, but not all that surprising.


We essentially had a one legged Ware, and scrubs, starting on the DL. Injuries have mounted too high to recover. Then, we lose Lee. We are missing Claiborne and Wilcox in our secondary, forcing guys like Heath and Webb into extended roles.

The zone defense cannot be effective without a pass rush. Which, we cannot muster with all the injuries.

It's unrealistic to expect otherwise.

I was not surprised by that.

I wish more would read this and come in off the ledge.

 

[munkee]

By the same token we knew how Ryan game plans and runs his defense and we tried to use that knowledge to our gain and fell flat on our face doing so.

I tend to agree with you, but with one major difference. The Cowboys are not well acquainted with the tendencies and weaknesses of the Saints personal. We knew what Ryan likes to do, but not how to exploit the personal on the field. Ryan knew exactly how to exploit our personal. He spent all his time in Dallas sparing against the Cowboys offense and trying to hide the weaknesses of the Dallas personal on defense.

 

[Alexander]

I think the defensive performance was poor, but not all that surprising.


We essentially had a one legged Ware, and scrubs, starting on the DL. Injuries have mounted too high to recover. Then, we lose Lee. We are missing Claiborne and Wilcox in our secondary, forcing guys like Heath and Webb into extended roles.

The zone defense cannot be effective without a pass rush. Which, we cannot muster with all the injuries.

It's unrealistic to expect otherwise.

I was not surprised by that.

Sorry. An all-time bad defensive performance should be surprising, unless you are into making excuses.

 

[Alexander]

I wish more would read this and come in off the ledge.

Why? So they can set themselves up with more false expectations about this season?

 

[ghst187]

have to say it, apparently its our organization that is the problem. Rob Ryan looked like a freakin genius last night. And don't give me that crap about all the injuries he had while he was here yata yata, the Saints lost several of their starters last night alone and still shut us down.
Sean Payton also had marginal success with us and was let out of town....now he and Rob Ryan decimate us and embarrass us in every way possible. For Payton, its becoming a usual routine to embarrass us every time we play him.
If Kiffin still has a job this week then there is no hope for the season.
If Garrett still has a job after game 16, then there is no hope for next season either.

PS..just to rub it in...meanwhile Andy Reid was available last year....he has a perennially toilet team sitting undefeated through 9 games thus far.

 

[neosapien23]

My epic rant is this: Just about every poster was upset when Dallas took Gavin Escobar when they had a chance to take Larry Warford. I don't know what Jerry Jones was smoking when he made that pick. Warford should have helped solidify this Oline and would have looked great next to Frederick.

Also this offense is severely underperforming. The Defense is dealing with a rash of injuries and premium picks are going to have to go on the Dline on the next draft, but the offense is only missing 1 starter. I don't know who is responsible for this monstrosity but this will be Garrett's last year. you can only go have mediocre results so long. I really think Dallas will take a long look at Gruden. Maybe he can take someone else's team to the promise land like he did with Dungy's team. Dallas needs a hard *** coach like Gruden to get them out of their mediocore funk.

 

[mmohican29]

I'm not going to rant. I'm just being realistic about this team going forward.

Here are my observations.

1) the playbook is not working and its failure on third down especially: is legion
2) we are too injured on defense to stop anybody
3) we have inexplicably drafted TE's who don't play in the games
4) we changed scheme to better utilize players who were on their way out of town
5) we keep mortgaging the future to re-sign players who haven't proven the ability to stay healthy and productive
6) our QB's play has "smartened to the point of being completely ineffective
7) our best player cannot get the football to save his life
8) coverage scheme on D is putrid

on a plus side:

1) we are solid on special teams
2) if we can eke out three victories we will in all likelihood win the NFC east

I think hard decisions need to be made.

Fire Garrett asap, fire Kiffin, fire Callahan. Ask Marinelli to stay as DC if he'd like but get out of the Tampa 2 and start drafting players who can play in a similar scheme as Seattle plays.

As far as trading Romo, Ware, Witten... I'm on the fence so that means if we get tremendous value for the players then they can go.

It's a sad day when guys like those become players you are willing to walk away from, but that's where I'm at.

 

[ufcrules1]

There are too many people who think we should be blaming the bulk of the problems on offense. Too many saying we should blame the bulk on Defense.

Actually, most people are blaming the bulk of the problems on our defense and want to ignore the offense from what I have read on here. I agree with you though, we have major problems on both sides of the ball. NOBODY is exempt on this team from blame.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

By the same token we knew how Ryan game plans and runs his defense and we tried to use that knowledge to our gain and fell flat on our face doing so.

They talked about it in the broadcast, when they said that the Cowboys told them that Ryan always wanted to match every motion the offense gives them. The Cowboys tried their no huddle/snap the ball with one second, offense a couple of plays in a row and never did it again all night. They had lots of guys in motion on their first drive or two, then stopped all together, much hlike they do with the running game.

 

[tyke1doe]

Go get Nick Saban and give him total control!

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Go get Nick Saban and give him total control!

He might be coaching in Texas next year, but it won't be for the Cowboys.

 

[punchnjudy]

This should be a good thread for everyone to add their epic Rant. I just ask that you keep things withing the guidelines.




I am also worried we will not draft for the trenches. Two Olinemen in the last 3 years and that is a first but that might be pushing it. I think this next draft should be trenches only unless there is just no players worthy of the pick in a specific round. But I would imagine with the trenches you can find an offensive or defensive lineman that would be slotted for a pick in each round.

Trenches first unless there's a QB they really like. For better or for worse, they can't pass on a QB prospect that the scouts are really high on.

Any DL/OL they pick after the first round will probably take a few years to develop. People are noticing how much Carolina's defense has improved, but several of their top contributors were taken 2-3 years ago and are now coming into their own. Unfortunately, it's very possible that they won't have the ol and dl set until Tony is done or close to done.

With that said, I don't want them to pick a QB just to pick a QB--franchises kill themselves by doing that.

NFL teams will almost always at least be relevant if they can control both lines of scrimmage and provide top QB play. Dallas hasn't had that combination since '95. That's not the only path to NFL relevance, but it can work and this dl is so depleted due to age/injuries that they really have no choice but to focus there anyway.

Regarding Garrett, if Dallas doesn't make the playoffs then one scenario I could see would be Jerry pulling the plug on Jason's offense (not just the play calling--the whole enchilada), but keeping him as a walk-around head coach. I could see him doing that as a compromise with angry fans, allowing him to keep a hc he's comfortable with.

 

[Dhragon]

Garrett - one of the worst HC in the league. Game planning, emotion, clock management - whatever aspect you look at he is sub-par. He's had his on-the-job training and he isn't learning fast enough. In fact, IMO he has regressed. He is done here.

Romo - He was the main reason that the games we won were won in the first place. But ever since the Broncos game, something is off with him. I'm hoping it's a temporary thing (some injury nagging him or even just an ordinary slump) but the longer this is going on the more I'm afraid this might be him "In decline". If so, it would fit in with all the rest of our player re-signings. Resign them and they go south quickly. If room's regression is because of him being "neutered" by Garrett, I sure hope it's something that can be fixed by a new HC.

Kiffen - He was asked to come here with 3-4 personnel and switch us to a 4-3. That would be difficult and would have growing pains even without all the injuries. That being said, this defense is so bad, even those very good excuses can't absolve him of all the blame. He has to go as well.

Marinelli - He's is doing all right with what he has. Good coach, but with his demonstrated loyalty (leaving Chicago when Lovie was fired) I don't see him staying if Kiffen is fired either. I'd want whoever becomes the next HC to hire his own staff anyway and not have Jerry do it for him, so even if Marinelli would stay, he might not get to. I wish him good luck.

Dez - His bad back is holding him back. The offensive scheme and it's lack of movement, change-ups is doing the rest. I just hope he can retain his passion and fire next season if indeed we get a new coaching staff.

Lee - Love his play, but like Miles, he can't stay healthy and it will end up doing him in just like it has done to Miles (at least with the Boys - since I doubt we keep Miles next year).

Ware - on the decline, but sue me, I still like him too much to give up on him yet. He still got something to give IMO.

Heath - Yuck.

Jerry - The new Al Davis for sure. I just hope he retains enough business savy to be willing to change things at least one more time ala Parcells by hiring a legitimate HC who is not a yes man and who has passion and gravitas to change our culture once again. Last time our culture needed to be changed from sloth and bad behavior. Now our culture needs to be changed from the "all business-no passion" approach IMO.

That's enough for now.

 

[bounce]

Romo - He was the main reason that the games we won were won in the first place. But ever since the Broncos game, something is off with him. I'm hoping it's a temporary thing (some injury nagging him or even just an ordinary slump) but the longer this is going on the more I'm afraid this might be him "In decline". If so, it would fit in with all the rest of our player re-signings. Resign them and they go south quickly. If room's regression is because of him being "neutered" by Garrett, I sure hope it's something that can be fixed by a new HC.

I don't disagree. It seems like Denver was the last time they let him actually just play his game. He's a freelance QB who thrives in up tempo plans. Let him call plays and improvise. It will drive you crazy with some picks, but it gives you a much better chance to win than this broken down game plan Callahan and Co. are using.

 

[CATCH17]

Biggest fear is we fire Garrett only to hire Mike Zimmer.

 

[theSHOW]

after reading the OP statement of account I have been around the toilet vomiting reputedly. I must admit that facts are facts and harsh reality is I am choking on truth. excuse me. BWHAHAHWAAA

 

[Vintage]

Sorry. An all-time bad defensive performance should be surprising, unless you are into making excuses.

When you are starting players on your DL who were out of football last year, bringing guys off the street to start and provide depth due to injuries, your best DL this season is out for the game, and your best defensive player for the past ... forever... is out there on one leg....

And you lose one of your best players during that game....

All the while facing a very good offense, no, it was not surprising.