My Final 53

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Disclaimer: In my final 53, I'm not making predictions. I'm going with the obvious starters plus the guys that have stood out to me thus far.

QB: Tony Romo, Kyle Orton ~ In short, Carpenter and McGee are not in the top 53 in relative talent, in my opinion.

HB/FB: Demarco Murray, Felix Jones, Phillip Tanner, Lawrence Vickers and Jamize Olawale ~ I think they go deep here, considering the injuries they've had in the past, and the overall talent. Jamize Olawale gives us youth and position flexibility, having a good combination of strength to move the pile and shiftyness to make people miss in the open field. Though, to be honest, I wasn't watching him that closely, when it came to blitz pickup and Special Teams. Felix Jones is on the hot seat.

WR: Miles Austin, Dez Bryant, Kevin Ogletree, Cole Beasley, Dwayne Harris, and Raymond Radway ~ Notably, Danny Coale is missing. As mentioned in the disclaimer, if I haven't seen him, I can't keep him. For 3rd receiver, I believe this will be by committee featuring predominantly Ogletree and Beasley. I said it in another thread, but Raymond Radway impressed me with his catching the defender from behind, following the interception. That "no quit" attitude and the speed to catch someone who was running while he was on the groung, is not something a coach can teach.

TE: Jason Witten, John Phillips, and James Hanna ~ I like what we are seeing from James Hanna. He's like the TE version of Peyton Hillis. This may actually be are deepest position on the team, in terms of overall ability.

T: Tyron Smith, Doug Free, Jermey Parnell, and Pat McQuistan ~ I'd say, just below solid here.

G: Mackenzy Bernadeau, Nate Livings and Ronald Leary ~ I can't particulary say I'm confident with this group, or that I made the right choices. But, then again, after the supposed starters Bernadeau and Livings, you can pretty much draw names out of a hat, and get pretty close to the same talent level every time.

C: Phil Costa, David Arkin, Harland Gunn ~ Much to many's dismay, Phil has not been replaced yet. I'm sure they will be watching the waiver wire very closely throughout the preseason. Gunn wins by merit of youth and the fact that he at the very least delivers the ball pretty well. Not sure on his blocking, though.

DE: Sean Lissamore, Marcus Spears, Jason Hatcher, Tyrone Crawford ~ Starting or not, I can see all four of these guys getting snaps.

DT: Jay Ratliff, Ben Bass, Josh Brent ~ Josh Brent makes it simply because of his familiarity with the defense, but in terms of showing up, he's tied with Rob Callaway and Clifton Geathers.

MLB: Sean Lee, Bruce Carter, Dan Connor and Alex Albright ~ This is another position I'm really happy about in terms of overall potential and skill level. Though, Bruce Carter seemed to dissappear to me in the last game...or did he even play?

OLB: Demarcus Ware, Anthony Spencer, Victor Butler, and Adrian Hamilton ~ Really, the entire Linebacking core is better than solid, in my opinion.

CB: Brandon Carr, Morris Claiborne, Mike Jenkins, Orlando Scandrick, and Mario Butler ~ On paper, I realize this position looks like a strength now, but I'm not completely sold yet. I'm really reluctant to believe this group is as good as it looks. For instance, Carr did pick up a few interceptions, which was fantastic to see, but in hindsight, on one of those, he was beat and the QB underthrew allowing him to catch up. Were the QB accurate with his pass, Brandon Carr would be getting mixed reviews today. Claiborne is, afterall, still a rookie who is making a big jump to play against NFL caliber receivers. We haven't seen Jenkins healthy, yet. With a limited range of motion in his rotator cuff, he won't be able to flail his wings in every direction needed to knock down passes. That area of his game, could get exposed by better QB's. Just saying...

S - Gerald Sensabaugh, Barry Church, Matt Johnson, and Danny McCray ~ Okay, so maybe I'm making an exception for Matt Johnson. I base this off his reported measurables and overall lack of competition. I've been critical of Barry Church because of his lack of speed and the speedy receivers we face in our division, but I can't help but like the way he hits, the fact that he always seems to be in the right place at the right time, and the way he drives to the point of attack with bad intentions.

K - Dan Bailey ~ Not much to say here. He's clutch. Keeping my fingers crossed he remains that way.

P - Chris Jones ~ I also liked that backup for the Raiders, and while he made up for the dropped ball by getting the first down, Jones still dropped the ball. I'll be watching this very closely, because the Raiders backup punter is sure to be in the market pretty soon.

LS - LP LADOUCEUR ~ I really wanted to go with youth on every position where I could and thought the difference in talent was nominal, but LP has been so clutch for so long, and that is really all he has to do. I could see him doing this in his 40's. Though likely, in the end, it will come does to dollars and the Cowboys overall youth movement of the last few years.

So that's it. If I were working for the Cowboys, I wouldn't stake my job on that being the best 53, but that's likely who I'll keep on Madden 13. Thoughts?
 
so no kyle wilber (4th rd pick), danny coale (5th rd pick) and david arkin (last year's 4th)? that's a lot of draft picks to give up in one offseason.
 
You have dockery, Leary and gunn making it over Arkin???
 
not sure Radway is going to make it based on his results (or lack thereof) thus far
 
Zordon;4676049 said:
so no kyle wilber (4th rd pick), danny coale (5th rd pick) and david arkin (last year's 4th)? that's a lot of draft picks to give up in one offseason.


See disclaimer at the top of the post. Thank you.
 
Teague31;4676050 said:
You have dockery, Leary and gunn making it over Arkin???


You got me there. I put this together pretty fast and did most of it from memory. Change made accordingly.
 
dwarecwby311;4676055 said:
not sure Radway is going to make it based on his results (or lack thereof) thus far

This. Completely contradicts his disclaimer. Radway has done less than just about everybody
 
I see that you've put some thought into this, but I'm going to have to disagree with some of it.

Disclaimer: In my final 53, I'm not making predictions. I'm going with the obvious starters plus the guys that have stood out to me thus far.

QB: Tony Romo, Kyle Orton ~ In short, Carpenter and McGee are not in the top 53 in relative talent, in my opinion.
Agree.

HB/FB: Demarco Murray, Felix Jones, Phillip Tanner, Lawrence Vickers and Jamize Olawale ~ I think they go deep here, considering the injuries they've had in the past, and the overall talent. Jamize Olawale gives us youth and position flexibility, having a good combination of strength to move the pile and shiftyness to make people miss in the open field. Though, to be honest, I wasn't watching him that closely, when it came to blitz pickup and Special Teams. Felix Jones is on the hot seat.
I think this could happen. They appear to really like Olawale.

WR: Miles Austin, Dez Bryant, Kevin Ogletree, Cole Beasley, Dwayne Harris, and Raymond Radway ~ Notably, Danny Coale is missing. As mentioned in the disclaimer, if I haven't seen him, I can't keep him. For 3rd receiver, I believe this will be by committee featuring predominantly Ogletree and Beasley. I said it in another thread, but Raymond Radway impressed me with his catching the defender from behind, following the interception. That "no quit" attitude and the speed to catch someone who was running while he was on the groung, is not something a coach can teach.
I don't think Coale get cuts, but it could happen.

TE: Jason Witten, John Phillips, and James Hanna ~ I like what we are seeing from James Hanna. He's like the TE version of Peyton Hillis. This may actually be are deepest position on the team, in terms of overall ability.
Ok.

T: Tyron Smith, Doug Free, Jermey Parnell, and Pat McQuistan ~ I'd say, just below solid here.
I don't see the value in McQuistan. They could bring him back after game 1 when his salary is not guaranteed. He probably wouldn't be active for game 1 anyway.

G: Mackenzy Bernadeau, Nate Livings, Derrick Dockery and Ronald Leary ~ I can't particulary say I'm confident with this group, or that I made the right choices. But, then again, after the supposed starters Bernadeau and Livings, you can pretty much draw names out of a hat, and get pretty close to the same talent level every time.
I don't see the value in Dockery. They could bring him back after game 1 when his salary is not guaranteed. This changes if Livings can't play in game 1.

C: Phil Costa, Harland Gunn ~ Much to many's dismay, Phil has not been replaced yet. I'm sure they will be watching the waiver wire very closely throughout the preseason. Gunn wins by merit of youth and the fact that he at the very least delivers the ball pretty well. Not sure on his blocking, though.
Where is Arkin? It should be easy to slide Gunn to the PS.

DE: Sean Lissamore, Marcus Spears, Jason Hatcher, Tyrone Crawford ~ Starting or not, I can see all four of these guys getting snaps.
They appear to like Coleman over Spears. I prefer neither.

DT: Jay Ratliff, Ben Bass, Josh Brent ~ Josh Brent makes it simply because of his familiarity with the defense, but in terms of showing up, he's tied with Rob Callaway and Clifton Geathers.
I think Bass is a DE, not NT.

MLB: Sean Lee, Bruce Carter, Dan Connor and Alex Albright ~ This is another position I'm really happy about in terms of overall potential and skill level. Though, Bruce Carter seemed to dissappear to me in the last game...or did he even play?
Agree on the players.

OLB: Demarcus Ware, Anthony Spencer, Victor Butler, and Adrian Hamilton ~ Really, the entire Linebacking core is better than solid, in my opinion.
I don't see Wilbur getting cut.

CB: Brandon Carr, Morris Claiborne, Mike Jenkins, Orlando Scandrick, and Mario Butler ~ On paper, I realize this position looks like a strength now, but I'm not completely sold yet. I'm really reluctant to believe this group is as good as it looks. For instance, Carr did pick up a few interceptions, which was fantastic to see, but in hindsight, on one of those, he was beat and the QB underthrew allowing him to catch up. Were the QB accurate with his pass, Brandon Carr would be getting mixed reviews today. Claiborne is, afterall, still a rookie who is making a big jump to play against NFL caliber receivers. We haven't seen Jenkins healthy, yet. With a limited range of motion in his rotator cuff, he won't be able to flail his wings in every direction needed to knock down passes. That area of his game, could get exposed by better QB's. Just saying...
Ok.

S - Gerald Sensabaugh, Barry Church, Matt Johnson, and Danny McCray ~ Okay, so maybe I'm making an exception for Matt Johnson. I base this off his reported measurables and overall lack of competition. I've been critical of Barry Church because of his lack of speed and the speedy receivers we face in our division, but I can't help but like the way he hits, the fact that he always seems to be in the right place at the right time, and the way he drives to the point of attack with bad intentions.
Ok.

K - Dan Bailey ~ Not much to say here. He's clutch. Keeping my fingers crossed he remains that way.
Agree.

P - Chris Jones ~ I also liked that backup for the Raiders, and while he made up for the dropped ball by getting the first down, Jones still dropped the ball. I'll be watching this very closely, because the Raiders backup punter is sure to be in the market pretty soon.
Agree.

LS - LP LADOUCEUR ~ I really wanted to go with youth on every position where I could and thought the difference in talent was nominal, but LP has been so clutch for so long, and that is really all he has to do. I could see him doing this in his 40's. Though likely, in the end, it will come does to dollars and the Cowboys overall youth movement of the last few years.
Agree.

So that's it. If I were working for the Cowboys, I wouldn't stake my job on that being the best 53, but that's likely who I'll keep on Madden 13. Thoughts?
 
dwarecwby311;4676055 said:
not sure Radway is going to make it based on his results (or lack thereof) thus far

I already stated my reasons for keeping him specifically, but considering the Cowboys injuries their last year, I could see them going deep here; I know I would.
 
GloryDaysRBack;4676061 said:
This. Completely contradicts his disclaimer. Radway has done less than just about everybody

If it actually did contradict my disclaimer, I'd say I can do that, it's my thread, but since it actually doesn't contradict my disclaimer (I said guy's that have stood out to me - and I already explained why he stood out to me), I'll say :rolleyes:
 
I don't think Coale get cuts, but it could
happen.

I don't think he does either.

I don't see the value in McQuistan. They could bring him
back after game 1 when his salary is not guaranteed. He probably wouldn't be
active for game 1 anyway.

I kept him solely based on what we have there and his overall experience in the Cowboys system.

I don't see the value in Dockery. They could bring him
back after game 1 when his salary is not guaranteed.
This changes if
Livings can't play in game 1.
I have since replaced him with Arkin. Forgot about him, somehow.

Where is Arkin? It should be easy to slide Gunn to the
PS.

As stated above, Arkin makes the team, but Gunn still does simply because the difference in talent being nominal and his ability to get the ball to the QB with out error thus far, make him more valuable to me. Can't say what the Cowboys think about him. I've actually submitted this prior to reading everyone else's reaction to player performance, so I didn't allow for someone to convince my perspective any one way. This is purely off my impression of the scrimmage and first two preseason games. It's my honest opinion, but like I said, if I had a job doing this for the Cowboys, I certainly wouldn't stake my job on it, because all I've seen is what they show us on TV. I'll be the first to admit this is not a sound way to build a team. Hence the disclaimer.

They appear to like Coleman over Spears. I prefer
neither.

Spears is both younger and showed up more to me than Coleman.

I think Bass is a DE, not NT.

They have him listed that way on Dallas Cowboys website that way, but when I saw him making play's, I'm pretty sure it was from a four man front, where they slid him in to DT, but I could be wrong.

I don't see Wilbur getting cut.

Me neither.
 

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