My First Day Analysis

[Manster68]

Boy, there are some building jumpers here.

Like it or not, Dallas improved themselves today. According to Jeff Ireland, the Cowboys went best player available with each of their picks. From that standpoint, I really liked what the Cowboys did. In other words, there were no reaches. I know I'll probably get slammed for that, but too bad.

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Bobby Carpenter is a big, massive, nasty linebacker whos motor never ends. That sounds to me like a combination of Ken Norton and Urlacher. He seems to be an emotional leader on defense as well. Like many of you...we will take that.

Yes, passing up Manny was tough, and I did get angry. However, I remember the Oakland loss where Lamont Jordan was pounding the inside backers to a pulp. With Carpenter and Ayodele there now, I bet that happens less.

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Anthony Fasano is a big TE who can also excel in the passing game. The big plus here is that he spent the last two seasons learning Weis' schemes...who learned from who??? Oh, yeah....Parcells.

Fasano will definately help the running game, as well as freeing up either Witten, Owens, or Glenn in the passing game. Hey, there was a time not too long ago when Cowboy fans were screaming for tight ends and other skill position offensive players. Those days are over!

I may be dreaming, but what if Fasano turns into Bavaro? Who cries then?

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Jason Hatcher - like many I never saw him play. However, for Parcells, Jones and Ireland to have him rated higher than Simpson, Gilles, or Scott, there must have been some significant research on this guy.

One thing to keep in mind - in the 3-4 defense, it is important for the DEs to be not only high quality, but DEEP. They take quite a bit of pounding and they need to rotate.

Let's give this guy our support and a chance.

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Dallas has six picks tomorrow. I am sure that free safety and offensive line will be addressed.

And another thing, everybody complained how Dallas has busted on the 2nd and 3rd round offensive linemen the last couple of years. Now they avoided them in those rounds and everybody still complains?

With Dallas NOT taking an offensive lineman on the first day tells me that they are fairly content with what they have there currently. MAYBE they see something in Peterman and Colombo that we do not? Maybe there was a reason why Kosier was the first player the Cowboys targeted and signed in free agency?

This draft sure wasn't the 1995, 2000, or 2001 debacles. That's for sure.

 

[Eddie]

Busting on OL in the past doesn't mean we abandon it completely.

I really don't think Kosier and Fabini are going to turn our OL misfortunes around.

We needed help. Higher rated players than Fasano and Hatcher were available ... higher rated players who could help immediately were available as well.

 

[Natedawg44]

There are too many circumstances for it to be completely BPA at every position. The carpenter father connections with Parcells and a big need at OLB. Jerry explaining away how we want to use 2 TE sets. If it was absolutely BPA every pic thats all Jerry would have to say. He wouldn't have explain how we plan on using mainly 2 TE sets now that would mean we drafted for need.

 

[J-DOG]

I think potentially we got 3 solid guys who can contribute in thier first season.
I think Fasano will play a lot and Hatcher will be rotated in and I like his potential a lot.
This second day needs to be a day in search of a FS.
Maybe two FS's are needed.
We have 6 picks and with that the ammo to move up if need be.

 

[morasp]

I think our running game was hurt last year by missed blocks from the tight end position as much as by the offensive line. Campbell wasn't as good of blocker as he was before his injury and Witten seemed to miss quite a few too. The guy we took today was rated the most dominant run blocker of the group in the TSN draft guide skill set section.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Jerry explaining away how we want to use 2 TE sets. If it was absolutely BPA every pic thats all Jerry would have to say. He wouldn't have explain how we plan on using mainly 2 TE sets now that would mean we drafted for need.

We needed another solid pass catching/blocking TE. Fasano was the best one available according to Ireland. Clearly the Cowboys don't want their offense to be dictated by the effectiveness of the O-line. They feel they can control the line better with 2 TE's and run a more effecient offense with 2 TE's.

 

[Manster68]

Busting on OL in the past doesn't mean we abandon it completely.

I really don't think Kosier and Fabini are going to turn our OL misfortunes around.

We needed help. Higher rated players than Fasano and Hatcher were available ... higher rated players who could help immediately were available as well.

Eddie,

Apparently, Dallas addressed the offensive line significantly enough in free agency to have the luxury of taking players who THEY have rated higher and could really benefit the team greatly.

Dallas has also done well the last couple of years on the second day. So there is no need to get upset.

 

[Natedawg44]

We needed another solid pass catching/blocking TE. Fasano was the best one available according to Ireland. Clearly the Cowboys don't want their offense to be dictated by the effectiveness of the O-line. They feel they can control the line better with 2 TE's and run a more effecient offense with 2 TE's.

so it is a need pick then not the best player available.

 

[Manster68]

so it is a need pick then not the best player available.

I bet it was both.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Isn't there a risk that Witten will walk as a free agent next year? Aren't we just hedging our bets with Fasano?

 

[Natedawg44]

I bet it was both.

Possibly but to blindly tell us it was BPA regardless is just pissing on my shoes and telling me its raining.

 

[kapolani]

That's why we are all behind a computer screen - watching the draft...

I love how all of the people on the message boards know what the Dallas Cowboys need.

Why don't you all offer your services to the Dallas Cowboys instead of posting your pearls of wisdom here.

I believe we picked up some very good players that fit into what we are trying to do.

We all were spoiled by last years draft and expect to hit a home run with each pick

 

[adbutcher]

Boy, there are some building jumpers here.

Like it or not, Dallas improved themselves today. According to Jeff Ireland, the Cowboys went best player available with each of their picks. From that standpoint, I really liked what the Cowboys did. In other words, there were no reaches. I know I'll probably get slammed for that, but too bad.

====================================

Bobby Carpenter is a big, massive, nasty linebacker whos motor never ends. That sounds to me like a combination of Ken Norton and Urlacher. He seems to be an emotional leader on defense as well. Like many of you...we will take that.

Yes, passing up Manny was tough, and I did get angry. However, I remember the Oakland loss where Lamont Jordan was pounding the inside backers to a pulp. With Carpenter and Ayodele there now, I bet that happens less.

====================================

Anthony Fasano is a big TE who can also excel in the passing game. The big plus here is that he spent the last two seasons learning Weis' schemes...who learned from who??? Oh, yeah....Parcells.

Fasano will definately help the running game, as well as freeing up either Witten, Owens, or Glenn in the passing game. Hey, there was a time not too long ago when Cowboy fans were screaming for tight ends and other skill position offensive players. Those days are over!

I may be dreaming, but what if Fasano turns into Bavaro? Who cries then?

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Jason Hatcher - like many I never saw him play. However, for Parcells, Jones and Ireland to have him rated higher than Simpson, Gilles, or Scott, there must have been some significant research on this guy.

One thing to keep in mind - in the 3-4 defense, it is important for the DEs to be not only high quality, but DEEP. They take quite a bit of pounding and they need to rotate.

Let's give this guy our support and a chance.

====================================

Dallas has six picks tomorrow. I am sure that free safety and offensive line will be addressed.

And another thing, everybody complained how Dallas has busted on the 2nd and 3rd round offensive linemen the last couple of years. Now they avoided them in those rounds and everybody still complains?

With Dallas NOT taking an offensive lineman on the first day tells me that they are fairly content with what they have there currently. MAYBE they see something in Peterman and Colombo that we do not? Maybe there was a reason why Kosier was the first player the Cowboys targeted and signed in free agency?

This draft sure wasn't the 1995, 2000, or 2001 debacles. That's for sure.

Another thing people are forgetting is the Tuna's track record for drafting some pretty good second day players especially DB(s) and OL(s).

 

[Manster68]

Another thing people are forgetting is the Tuna's track record for drafting some pretty good second day players especially DB(s) and OL(s).

Exactly!

Jacques Reeves, Patrick Crayton, Chris Canty (granted, he fell due to injury), Marion Barber, Rob Petitti, Jay Ratliff, and maybe even Justin Beriault seems to back up your statement.

My goodness people! There is no need to panic!

 

[Eddie]

That's why we are all behind a computer screen - watching the draft...

I love how all of the people on the message boards know what the Dallas Cowboys need.

Why don't you all offer your services to the Dallas Cowboys instead of posting your pearls of wisdom here.

I believe we picked up some very good players that fit into what we are trying to do.

We all were spoiled by last years draft and expect to hit a home run with each pick

You're right. Leave it to the experts. You probably said the same thing for 10 years when Lacewell was running things.

 

[kapolani]

You're right. Leave it to the experts. You probably said the same thing for 10 years when Lacewell was running things.

You're wasting time here.

You have dynasties to build....

 

[SacredStar]

We needed help. Higher rated players than Fasano and Hatcher were available ... higher rated players who could help immediately were available as well.

Says who???

You???

Where are your credentials for scouting college prospects with NFL ability?

Please post them.

Until then, I'll trust an NFL coaching legend in Parcells on selecting players to fill needs.

 

[kapolani]

Says who???

You???

Where are your credentials for scouting college prospects with NFL ability?

Please post them.

Until then, I'll trust an NFL coaching legend in Parcells on selecting players to fill needs.

Didn't you know that Eddie is a trusted advisor to serveral Pro teams?

He just likes to slum with us inferior beings and impart his infinite wisdom with us..

 

[adbutcher]

You're wasting time here.

You have dynasties to build....

:laugh2:

 

[Deep_Freeze]

Eddie is just upset with the draft, no reason to come down on him here. If you were told we were going to take a DE and a TE on Wednesday for the first day, you would have probably been upset too. The biggest problem is we are nowhere near our needs.