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Think someone brought this up in another thread a while back but can't remember where.

With the Baron trade, I would really love to get rid of the fullback on our roster. (not just Anderson but Sicko or Gran)

I would love it if we were able to save the roster spot by playing Baron at LT and using Free as Fullback on the ten plays or so that we use Cricket on today.

Skyler
 
I just don't get all this talk about Sicko and Free...

A tight end is not a fullback.

A left tackle is not a fullback.
 
The fullback position is dying.

I think Sicko will make the team. He can deep snap too, which will move LP out of a roster spot next year.
 
hra8700;3397985 said:
I just don't get all this talk about Sicko and Free...

A tight end is not a fullback.

A left tackle is not a fullback.

True. but colleges aren't turning out fullbacks on a regular basis. I think being creative is better than spending a roster spot + keeping a suboptimal pure fullback player.
 
My fullback fantasy and yours are very different.

Here's mine....
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USC fullback Stanley Havili. The best fullback prospect (no homering) I have seen in years. Probable 2nd round pick in 2011.
 
tskyler;3397987 said:
True. but colleges aren't turning out fullbacks on a regular basis. I think being creative is better than spending a roster spot + keeping a suboptimal pure fullback player.

I think Deon has done a great job run blocking. He just doesn't offer anything beyond that. But he does help with the running game a lot. And what he brings in that regards can't be replaced by a tight end or an offensive tackle.

Fullbacks are short for a reason...
 
Jon88;3397986 said:
The fullback position is dying.

I think Sicko will make the team. He can deep snap too, which will move LP out of a roster spot next year.

If Sicko can andle the blocking role and we don't lose anything with him snapping, I'm fine with replacing Ladouceur.

We had way too many roster spots tied up in specialists last season and I think the team realized that.

But count me as one who favors having a run-blocking fullback on the roster.

I think that fullback adds a more physical element to a team's running game and I've felt that this team should have upgraded over Anderson for a while now.

I think he's a decent run blocker, but feel he brings little else to the team.
 
Chris in SoCal;3397991 said:
USC fullback Stanley Havili. The best fullback prospect (no homering) I have seen in years. Probable 2nd round pick in 2011.
Yes you are. :laugh2:
 
Jon88;3397986 said:
The fullback position is dying.

I think Sicko will make the team. He can deep snap too, which will move LP out of a roster spot next year.

I SERIOUSLY doubt that. A deep snapper isn't someone you just toss out. Deep snappers usually stick with a team their entire career. (that I've seen)

Secondly, while you can have a deep snapper that does other jobs, you usually don't because the last thing you want to happen is have your deep snapper get injured. It's a specialty job and there aren't a lot of guys that are good at doing it. (Gurode has freaking trouble snapping in the shotgun!)

The deep snapper usually comes in on 4th down. Last thing you want is that down screwed up due to a bad DEEP snap.
 
nyc;3398065 said:
Gurode has freaking trouble snapping in the shotgun!
IMO he has worked on that a lot and I don't believe he had a bad snap from shotgun last season.
 
stasheroo;3398034 said:
If Sicko can andle the blocking role and we don't lose anything with him snapping, I'm fine with replacing Ladouceur.

We had way too many roster spots tied up in specialists last season and I think the team realized that.

But count me as one who favors having a run-blocking fullback on the roster.

I think that fullback adds a more physical element to a team's running game and I've felt that this team should have upgraded over Anderson for a while now.

I think he's a decent run blocker, but feel he brings little else to the team.

I agree a good masher brings attitude and wears down opposing defenses.
 
big dog cowboy;3398066 said:
IMO he has worked on that a lot and I don't believe he had a bad snap from shotgun last season.

I agree. I thought Gurode did much better last season with the shotgun snaps. I was not seeing snaps over Romo's head or floating snap .
 
tskyler;3397979 said:
Think someone brought this up in another thread a while back but can't remember where.

With the Baron trade, I would really love to get rid of the fullback on our roster. (not just Anderson but Sicko or Gran)

I would love it if we were able to save the roster spot by playing Baron at LT and using Free as Fullback on the ten plays or so that we use Cricket on today.

Skyler

makes no sense. although the role of a FB is diminished over the years, they are still critical in run and pass blocking. you need some type of FB. plus its completely different position, read and reactions than a tackle. they have to run up the hole, identify the LBs coming through, block them and allow the RB to pick their lane. Free would suck in that. its not about being big and strong.

that's such a bad idea, plus the FB also helps in pass blocking, as the last line of defense in pass protection picking up the plyer that comes through and chipping them. the good ones are also a pass outlet (as the 4th and 5th option, go back to Moose).

your idea just doesn't work. Free wouldn't be a pass threat and that's why dallas looked at Phillips as an HB last year. their pass protection schemes are different and free wouldn't be able to do that. their run blocking assignments are different. this made no sesne at all
 
hra8700;3397985 said:
I just don't get all this talk about Sicko and Free...

A tight end is not a fullback.

A left tackle is not a fullback.
exactly.

but what they are talking about is an HB vs. a true FB. Phillips played that role a little last year. what dallas is looking for is a pass catching player to pair with the RB in the back field. ANderson, though a good lead blocker sucks as a pass catcher and it elminates him from any pass plays. having a pass catrching HB/FB type like we did in the days with Moose forces teams to leave a spy (LB) on him, which opens up the passing lanes in the middle of the field. right now the LBs aren't concerned about Anderson and they just drop into coverage.
 
Jon88;3397986 said:
The fullback position is dying.

I think Sicko will make the team. He can deep snap too, which will move LP out of a roster spot next year.

I agree. if Sicko shows any kind of potential, he and phillips will be the new H-Backs. their lead run b locking may not be as good, but they pose a threat as pass catchers. it also depends on how good they are in pass protection.
 
Chris in SoCal;3397991 said:
My fullback fantasy and yours are very different.

Here's mine....
usc02aerc_400.jpg

havili_td.jpg


USC fullback Stanley Havili. The best fullback prospect (no homering) I have seen in years. Probable 2nd round pick in 2011.

no FB will go in the 2nd round. a FB ranks last on the list of importance on the offensive side.
 
stasheroo;3398034 said:
If Sicko can andle the blocking role and we don't lose anything with him snapping, I'm fine with replacing Ladouceur.

We had way too many roster spots tied up in specialists last season and I think the team realized that.

But count me as one who favors having a run-blocking fullback on the roster.

I think that fullback adds a more physical element to a team's running game and I've felt that this team should have upgraded over Anderson for a while now.

I think he's a decent run blocker, but feel he brings little else to the team.

that I am not comfortable with. Landi is reliable. Sicko would have to be 100% perfect in preseason and practice before I consider even replacing Landi. the last thing we need is a bad snap in a big game in the 4th quarter in the playoff or in december.
 

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