My idea for NFL refs.

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blindzebra said:
This is the most ridiculous thread ever, and with all the Bledsoe-loving, Zimmer-hating drivel out there, that says a lot.

Care to guess what age the average official starts officiating? Most start in their early to mid 20's.

It takes several years to get a handle on the nuances of the rules, understanding the philosophies of officiating, making positioning and mechanics second nature.

That means, unless you are some kind of ref-savant, you are pushing 30 before you have a full varsity high school schedule or get a whiff of college ball. The difference from Pop Warner to high school is pretty big and takes a couple of years to be proficient. The same goes from HS to college ball, and that adjustment is even greater. The jump from college to the NFL is huge.

Under your "plan" a typical official will reach the NFL at 30-35, 3-4 years to actually excel at that level, and the time they become solid, you force them to retire.

It's laughable.

An official's prime is 35-55, and at that high of a level, experience and judgment is a hell of a lot more important than being in the player's peer group.

This 40+ year old official needed a good laugh, and a hint for the clueless, I'm a much better official at 40 than I was at 30, and there is no comparison to when I was 25.

I'll bet not a single official in the world, would tell you different.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. Hope your season went well. Should be almost over now, correct? Unless you have playoffs, that is...
 

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WoodysGirl said:
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Couldn't have said it better myself. Hope your season went well. Should be almost over now, correct? Unless you have playoffs, that is...

Have a state championship semi-final on the 20th, with 1 regular season game...they split up some divisions this year and one goes an extra week...a regional final, and a state quarter final in between.:D
 

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blindzebra said:
Have a state championship semi-final on the 20th, with 1 regular season game...they split up some divisions this year and one goes an extra week...a regional final, and a state quarter final in between.:D
Cool. Did my last varsity last night. Got a few more sub-v games to do. May do some games in the private school state tourney this weekend. Still waiting for a call back on that, tho.

Had an interesting season. I'll PM you about it later. Moved up and I don't think I've ever gotten yelled at as much as I have this season. It was great. :D
 

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Cool. Did my last varsity last night. Got a few more sub-v games to do. May do some games in the private school state tourney this weekend. Still waiting for a call back on that, tho.

Had an interesting season. I'll PM you about it later. Moved up and I don't think I've ever gotten yelled at as much as I have this season. It was great. :D

I know what you are saying.

I had a game this year where the foul count was 6 to 6, and I had two kids just blasting each other in the post, so I called a DOUBLE FOUL.

Care to guess what I heard from the stands?

"CALL IT BOTH WAYS!":lmao2:
 

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As Juke pointed out in another thread, I don't believe we'll see full time officials due to union issues so I think other ideas need to be looked at.


First off, I really like the college system where every play is reviewed but I don't like the idea of coaches not being able to request a review. I think the answer is a combination of the two systems, every play is reviewed but challenges are still possible

I've also suggested adding two additional officials whose only duty is long plays. Put them 50 yards off the ball or at the back line of the end zone. An official can't go 75 yards to a player's 100 but can go 50.

Unfortunately, I can't envision a system where the major subjective penalties (holding and PI) could be reviewed but many penalties that are not currently subject to review could be. Receiver downfield, false start, off sides all fall into this category, even illegal contact might.

I'd also like to see PI become major and minor, spot foul or 15 yards.
 

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Replay should have two coaches challenges that are free...and should cover anything...as well as challenges that can be "bought" with your timeouts. You are charged win or lose, but that would save teams late in games where they have used their challenges.

I'd do away with the 2 minute booth review.
 

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blindzebra said:
I know what you are saying.

I had a game this year where the foul count was 6 to 6, and I had two kids just blasting each other in the post, so I called a DOUBLE FOUL.

Care to guess what I heard from the stands?

"CALL IT BOTH WAYS!":lmao2:
Isn't irony delicious?
 

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Isn't irony delicious?

I had a dad yell, "Oh, sure #42 gets to shoot free throws, but they never foul."

#42 fouled out about a minute later, and they tell us, "Hey ref, what game ya watchin'?":laugh2:


Oh, and back on topic.

I also would like to see a booth official that joins the referee and the calling official in the review, with a 2/3 vote to overturn.

I think the calling official is more likely to overturn their own call on a close one, where the ref is juggling crew integrity, and will pull the inconclusive visual evidence card.

The booth official will not be a regular member of the officiating crew and this distance may lessen the we live as a crew and die as a crew mentality.
 

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blindzebra said:
I know what you are saying.

I had a game this year where the foul count was 6 to 6, and I had two kids just blasting each other in the post, so I called a DOUBLE FOUL.

Care to guess what I heard from the stands?

"CALL IT BOTH WAYS!":lmao2:

Here's one you can appreciate. In a road game, our JV girls team had 14 fouls in a row called on them. The opposing team then had 2 in a row called on them, when from the stands, like you said, "Call it both ways.":bang2:
 

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Perhaps women should be given a chance to officiate ...
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I personally wouldn't argue with this ref!:rolleyes:
 

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Phoenix-Talon said:
Perhaps women should be given a chance to officiate ...
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I personally wouldn't argue with this ref!:rolleyes:

Wow...Hey BZ, ever work with her ?
 
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