My Meaningless Thoughts On The Game...

Yakuza Rich;2978549[COLOR=Red said:
]Yes, but I think the Bengals are better than people think. I was thinking they were better than people thought before the season started,[/COLOR]
YAKUZA

The first game of the season, they certainly were not a good team at all. They were fairly bad I'd say. They may improve and be a good team, but that first game they were about 5 rungs down the ladder from both Tampa Bay and Carolina.
 
MichaelWinicki;2979852 said:
I must say Rich, I've always considered you one of the most level-headed people on this board... But your sudden GROR (Get Rid Of Romo) has left me puzzled.

Yeah, the guy has "warts", but from where I'm standing I do not see any QB out there who doesn't have a weakness or two.

I honestly can't see it being very easy to find another QB with the production capability of Romo. Not when you combine his accuracy numbers with his elusiveness in the pocket with his eagerness to look for the "big throw" (yeah, I consider that to be a positive). The fact is the guy is going to be in the top-5 of all QB's when it comes to passer rating very, very shortly.

Yeah, I can understand how you would want a QB who makes less mistakes, but I'm betting you're going to get one with much less production. You just don't find guys who can maintain a 95 passer rating under a log.

And to think that's going to take a single 1st round draft pick QB to replace Romo-- well, I think the odds are stacked against it. Heck, this team could go through 2 or 3 or 5 drafted QB's until it found one that could maintain an 85 passer rating.

I'm a business guy. An entrepreneur if you will. And contrary to popular opinion, entrepreneurs-- at least the successful ones aren't risk takers. And giving up on Romo in order to give the "keys" over to an unproven rookie scares my entrepreneurial bones to the core.

Good post, Michael. I'm in the same boat.

I think we must stick with Romo if we're going to have any realistic chance to win with this "current" group (Witten, Roy, Barber, etc.). I realize Sanchez, Ryan and Flacco leaves people wetting themselves over the idea of drafting a blue chipper that can get to the playoffs out of the gate, but that's a rarity. We could just as easily get the next Matt Leinart, and I don't think it's the time to roll the dice when you have a core nucleus entering its prime -- including a two-time Pro Bowl quarterback -- just for the off chance that you can land a QB that would be placed three spots higher on the "Top 10 QBs in the NFL" list.

As for the rest of Rich's post, I largely agree with most of the points, but I will disagree on the Flozell and Felix comments.

With Felix, I see potentially an all-time great in terms of being able to produce great plays by the bunches in just limited touches. But I'm not convinced he's the type that will be better with "more than 15" touches a game than he is with 10-12.

Personally, and this is just me, but he's the ideal complementary back. Choice, by contrast, gets better as the game goes on. I thought he was much tougher to tackle in the fourth quarter than the first against Carolina. I think Barber is the same way. Julius Jones, I think, was the same way -- which made him a TERRIBLE complementary back slotted to get less than 10 touches in a game.

Felix, on the other hand, only needs 10 touches to get to 100 yards. He's shown this game after game after game (even despite his injury history). I actually believe we've found a formula that works.

Barber gets in the neighborhood of 18 carries; Felix gets 10-12 touches; Choice gets the rest (though his true time to shine is when there's an injury to the main two cogs).

I don't know that we need to experiment and give Barber less touches -- especially not until Felix proves he can hold up injury-wise for, at the minimum, a five-game stretch. Then, and only then, would I ever consider upping his touches. Just my two cents on the matter.

As for Flozell, he continues to protect Romo's back and is stout against the run. I'm not ready -- and may never be -- to "see" if the same can be said for Free. It could take seeing Romo's season end for that question to be answered. Flozell gets that alarming one penalty a game, but it's worth it as long as he's blocking as well as he is IMO.
 
That pass from Romo was completely safe. As somebody said, there was NO ONE who could have made a play on that ball other than choice, and Romo saw it. Don't think poorly of it because it was unorthodox, and slung across the field instead of up it.
 
It's almost like fans believe that an average LT is capable of "filling in" for Flozell and routinely shutting down terrific pass rushers the way Flo does.

But without the penalties!!1!!!1!

Health willing, Flozell is our starting LT in 2010. We should be so lucky.
 
Ken;2980380 said:
Hmmm....last year's December had the toughest defenses in the league to play against all in one month.

I can't say I was surprised he didn't put up 150 qb ratings in those games, are you?

Especially when the OC is employing a pass first approach to attacking those teams.

I think to NOT acknowledge that Romo has made serious improvements in regards to protecting the ball in the pocket (and taking sacks he normally would have tried to do something crazy with) and on the run, is just plain silly.

He has 0 fumbles this year.

The fumbles comment is spot-on. That -- not throwing interceptions -- was Romo's biggest weakness without a doubt. You can live with a 34/19 TD/INT ratio ... but you can't live with 13 fumbles or however many he had a year ago. To go from almost 1 a game to none in three games is, for now, a solid improvement.

Of course, whenever he does finally fumble -- and it will happen, obviously -- the naysayers will undoubtedly come out and rip on that singular fumble.
 
Yakuza Rich;2980107 said:
I'm not saying that he's nearly as good as Romo, but the same could be said for Kyle Boller. He did show some flashes, but after awhile the Ravens realized that he just didn't have it and they looked elsewhere. Now they have Flacco who is looking pretty darn good.

Again, if Romo really struggles in December again...and all indications are that he will over than he won't....I really wonder where people will stand on this.

YAKUZA

I want to highlight this final point you made, as it illustrates the biggest problem I have with trying to get rid of Romo -- which, as I sit here right now, is a suggestion that is the perfect example of the 'grass is greener on the other side' syndrome.

You acknowledged the talent gap between Romo and Boller, but to even compare the two showcases how out of touch it seems we're -- yes, we, myself included -- getting with Romo's occasional struggles.

It's easy to improve over a spare like Boller. Much like it was to find someone better than Quincy or Hutch. Not so easy with Romo. Would I rather have a 27-year-old Brady? You betcha. Would I trade Romo for Peyton? Sure thing. Would I give him up for Matt Ryan, who did have three turnovers himself in the playoffs last year? Sure.

But the list starts to run dry right around there. You talk about risk/reward, and it IS a big risk that we can improve over Romo with a draft pick, no matter if the scouts think a rookie in next year's draft has a high upside. There simply aren't many QBs in this league that are better.

Can we RISK letting go of Romo for a young unknown, only to find out that, holy cow, Romo can play in December like he does the rest of the year? I'm not ready to let him turn over a late-season leaf for some other franchise.

Now, don't get me wrong. Sure, if Romo is suck-butt bad this December, the topic will need to be revisited. That goes with every player. Analysis is always a fluid issue. Roy Williams can go from bad trade, to legitimate T.O. replacement, to Pro Bowler, to bust over the matter of 12 weeks.

But I don't think it's guaranteed Romo can't play well in the playoffs. He's literally a hair short of being 2-0 in the playoffs, and showed last December against the Giants that he can play well in that month and there isn't some voodoo doll hanging above his head.

Again, you talk risk/reward, and I just don't like our chances of improving short-term over a guy who would be 3 for 3 in Pro Bowl appearances per year started if not for missing several games due to injury last season.
 
RainMan;2980504 said:
Again, you talk risk/reward, and I just don't like our chances of improving short-term over a guy who would be 3 for 3 in Pro Bowl appearances per year started if not for missing several games due to injury last season.


That's the one right there.

And for me it's not just getting a guy who's better, but one that can even come remotely close. A 95 QB rating is just short of amazing.
 
GimmeTheBall!;2980366 said:
I kinda agree with you on his journeyman work on Monday night.
Having said that, I and a lot of fans just don't like Flo because he is generally stupid, that's all.
And I know stuped because I am from Farmers Branch.

I agree with your expertise for obvious reasons.
 

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