MY Mock v.5 Ware returns

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Resigns: Mackenzey Bernadeau C/G, James Hanna Te, Jeff Heath S, Rolando McClain LB, Kyle Wilber LB, Jack Crawford DL, Morris Claiborne CB,
Releases: JJ Wilcox S, Andrew Gachkar LB, Brandon Carr CB
Restructures: Tyron Smith T, Tyrone Crawford DT
Cap Room: 35mil
Free Agents: Robert Griffin III QB, Demarcus Ware DE

Round 1
1. Titans - Laremy Tunsil T Ole MIss
2. Browns - Jared Goff QB
3. Chargers - Jalen Ramsey S Florida State
4. Cowboys - Myles Jack LB UCLA
Dallas drafts a star to go to form a very good LBer core. Jack starts his career at the SAM and will move over to the will once Lee moves on. Jack can actually move to S or the slot in passing downs.

Round 2
Austin Johnson DT Penn State
Completes this DL. A big guy who can take on the double team but still get up the field and get a rush up the gut.

Round 3
Alex Collins RB Arkansas
RB to team up with McFadden but i can see him taking over at some point in 2016.

Round 4
Dak Prescott QB Miss State
Dual threat QB who has time to develop

Round 4(COMP)
Rashard Robinson CB LSU
Very talented guy who has hasnt played for a yr because of issues with school. Without these issues this guy would be one of the top CBs in this draft.

Round 6(OAK)
Tevin Carter S Utah
Smart leader type .

Round 6(COMP)
Aaron Green RB TCU
change of pace back who can be the guy this team wanted Dunbar to be


QB: Romo, Griffin, Prescott
RB: McFadden, Collins, Greene
WR: Dez, TW, Beasley, Butler, Lucky
TE: Witten, Hanna, Swaim
LT: Smith, Green
LG: Collins, Bernadeau
C: Martin Bernadeau
RB: Martin, Bernadeau
RT: Free, Green

LDE: Lawrence, Irving
3T: Crawford, Irving, Whaley
1T: Johnson, McClain
RDE: Ware, Gregory
SAM: Jack, Wilson
MIKE: McClain, Hitchens, Nzeocha
WILL: Lee, Hitchens
CB: Scandrick, Claiborne, Robinson, Olotaye, Mitchell
FS: Jones, Heath
SS: Church, Carter
 

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lol dont mind the title having that fixed. Its meant to say Ware. guess i just wish they would resign Hardy
 

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I was going to say, I dont see Hardy on the depth chart anyware, thinking maybe he becomes our punter maybe? Thanks for clearing that up. You took a QB, thats what I am looking for in mocks these days. Dont know if I like your pick, but we took a QB so I will entertain it.
 

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Need a CB or two, preferably in FA.
And Prescott,? Seriously?
 

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I just hate taking a player in the top 5 that is not a pass rusher on defense.

Denver won the SB by beating the crap out of Cam............In 3 seasons at UCLA, Jack has exactly 1 single sack......he is strictly a cover LB.

When was the last time a non-pass rushing LB was drafted in the top 5?
 

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I just can't convince myself that Jack is covering an NFL slot receiver, something even the best corners struggle with, in man-to-man. Guys like Beasley and Edelman are going to eat him alive in man-to-man. I know he had some success at that in college, but college slot receivers rarely play a down in the NFL. NFL slot receivers are guys who used to be the top receivers on their respective college teams.

This kid could be the second coming of Derrick Brooks or Urlacher in zone, but he is not covering the slot man-to-man.
 

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I just hate taking a player in the top 5 that is not a pass rusher on defense.

Denver won the SB by beating the crap out of Cam............In 3 seasons at UCLA, Jack has exactly 1 single sack......he is strictly a cover LB.

When was the last time a non-pass rushing LB was drafted in the top 5?

Is Dallas going back to the 3-4? That's why they have des in the 4-3. Stop reading all the rushing over articles from sturm when thinking bout the Cowboys def.
 

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I just can't convince myself that Jack is covering an NFL slot receiver, something even the best corners struggle with, in man-to-man. Guys like Beasley and Edelman are going to eat him alive in man-to-man. I know he had some success at that in college, but college slot receivers rarely play a down in the NFL. NFL slot receivers are guys who used to be the top receivers on their respective college teams.

This kid could be the second coming of Derrick Brooks or Urlacher in zone, but he is not covering the slot man-to-man.

He can guard any tight end or running back though. Hed be Rookie of the year as a strong safety.
 

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I have never once heard the term premium position used before Sturm latest article in this forum, lol seriously if i have i have missed it. And all this about Dallas should spend it unless its a rushing LBer.

Why does Dallas need a rushing LBer? Are the playing 3-4 this yr?

LBer is a premium position for this team. And SAM should be and ill give alot of you one example that none of you have even contiplated yet. Bruce Carter....A play making SAM LBer who covered the flat and slide over in the nickle and dime packages. He was responsible for alot of them TOs dallas got in 2014. Wether it was INTs or tip passes to Wilcox, and he actually dropped about another 4 would be INTs.

Now go into 2015, where was that coverage? Where was that LBer to cover that area and make those plays? Dallas didnt have him anymore. Jack playing either MIke or SAM would create those plays. He has the speed and instincts for that job.

When teams had 3rd and 4-6 against Dallas where did they go religiously? To the left on a quick slant. Why? Because Dallas was usually in a zone and the LB to Carr's side was not in position, or Wilcox was not in position. And Carr was always a little too far off, but that LBer is supposed to fill that zone. Thats the responsibility for that LBer.
 

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Resigns: Mackenzey Bernadeau C/G, James Hanna Te, Jeff Heath S, Rolando McClain LB, Kyle Wilber LB, Jack Crawford DL, Morris Claiborne CB,
Releases: JJ Wilcox S, Andrew Gachkar LB, Brandon Carr CB
Restructures: Tyron Smith T, Tyrone Crawford DT
Cap Room: 35mil
Free Agents: Robert Griffin III QB, Demarcus Ware DE

Round 1
1. Titans - Laremy Tunsil T Ole MIss
2. Browns - Jared Goff QB
3. Chargers - Jalen Ramsey S Florida State
4. Cowboys - Myles Jack LB UCLA
Dallas drafts a star to go to form a very good LBer core. Jack starts his career at the SAM and will move over to the will once Lee moves on. Jack can actually move to S or the slot in passing downs.

Round 2
Austin Johnson DT Penn State
Completes this DL. A big guy who can take on the double team but still get up the field and get a rush up the gut.

Round 3
Alex Collins RB Arkansas
RB to team up with McFadden but i can see him taking over at some point in 2016.

Round 4
Dak Prescott QB Miss State
Dual threat QB who has time to develop

Round 4(COMP)
Rashard Robinson CB LSU
Very talented guy who has hasnt played for a yr because of issues with school. Without these issues this guy would be one of the top CBs in this draft.

Round 6(OAK)
Tevin Carter S Utah
Smart leader type .

Round 6(COMP)
Aaron Green RB TCU
change of pace back who can be the guy this team wanted Dunbar to be


QB: Romo, Griffin, Prescott
RB: McFadden, Collins, Greene
WR: Dez, TW, Beasley, Butler, Lucky
TE: Witten, Hanna, Swaim
LT: Smith, Green
LG: Collins, Bernadeau
C: Martin Bernadeau
RB: Martin, Bernadeau
RT: Free, Green

LDE: Lawrence, Irving
3T: Crawford, Irving, Whaley
1T: Johnson, McClain
RDE: Ware, Gregory
SAM: Jack, Wilson
MIKE: McClain, Hitchens, Nzeocha
WILL: Lee, Hitchens
CB: Scandrick, Claiborne, Robinson, Olotaye, Mitchell
FS: Jones, Heath
SS: Church, Carter

I'm not too high on Dak, but overall, nice draft.
 

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Resigns: Mackenzey Bernadeau C/G, James Hanna Te, Jeff Heath S, Rolando McClain LB, Kyle Wilber LB, Jack Crawford DL, Morris Claiborne CB,
Releases: JJ Wilcox S, Andrew Gachkar LB, Brandon Carr CB
Restructures: Tyron Smith T, Tyrone Crawford DT
Cap Room: 35mil
Free Agents: Robert Griffin III QB, Demarcus Ware DE

Round 1
1. Titans - Laremy Tunsil T Ole MIss
2. Browns - Jared Goff QB
3. Chargers - Jalen Ramsey S Florida State
4. Cowboys - Myles Jack LB UCLA
Dallas drafts a star to go to form a very good LBer core. Jack starts his career at the SAM and will move over to the will once Lee moves on. Jack can actually move to S or the slot in passing downs.

Round 2
Austin Johnson DT Penn State
Completes this DL. A big guy who can take on the double team but still get up the field and get a rush up the gut.

Round 3
Alex Collins RB Arkansas
RB to team up with McFadden but i can see him taking over at some point in 2016.

Round 4
Dak Prescott QB Miss State
Dual threat QB who has time to develop

Round 4(COMP)
Rashard Robinson CB LSU
Very talented guy who has hasnt played for a yr because of issues with school. Without these issues this guy would be one of the top CBs in this draft.

Round 6(OAK)
Tevin Carter S Utah
Smart leader type .

Round 6(COMP)
Aaron Green RB TCU
change of pace back who can be the guy this team wanted Dunbar to be


QB: Romo, Griffin, Prescott
RB: McFadden, Collins, Greene
WR: Dez, TW, Beasley, Butler, Lucky
TE: Witten, Hanna, Swaim
LT: Smith, Green
LG: Collins, Bernadeau
C: Martin Bernadeau
RB: Martin, Bernadeau
RT: Free, Green

LDE: Lawrence, Irving
3T: Crawford, Irving, Whaley
1T: Johnson, McClain
RDE: Ware, Gregory
SAM: Jack, Wilson
MIKE: McClain, Hitchens, Nzeocha
WILL: Lee, Hitchens
CB: Scandrick, Claiborne, Robinson, Olotaye, Mitchell
FS: Jones, Heath
SS: Church, Carter

I would be very happy with that draft.
 

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I would be happy with that draft also, though I think Prescott goes higher than the 4th.

Also would the team really start Jack at Sam? I would think it would be easier to start him at Will and Sean Lee moving to Sam. Lee knows the defense so well he could make the transition easily.
 

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Ware is not coming back here, especially to play in a 4-3.
 

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I just hate taking a player in the top 5 that is not a pass rusher on defense.

Denver won the SB by beating the crap out of Cam............In 3 seasons at UCLA, Jack has exactly 1 single sack......he is strictly a cover LB.

When was the last time a non-pass rushing LB was drafted in the top 5?

Aaron Curry
 

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I have never once heard the term premium position used before Sturm latest article in this forum, lol seriously if i have i have missed it. And all this about Dallas should spend it unless its a rushing LBer.

Why does Dallas need a rushing LBer? Are the playing 3-4 this yr?

LBer is a premium position for this team. And SAM should be and ill give alot of you one example that none of you have even contiplated yet. Bruce Carter....A play making SAM LBer who covered the flat and slide over in the nickle and dime packages. He was responsible for alot of them TOs dallas got in 2014. Wether it was INTs or tip passes to Wilcox, and he actually dropped about another 4 would be INTs.

Now go into 2015, where was that coverage? Where was that LBer to cover that area and make those plays? Dallas didnt have him anymore. Jack playing either MIke or SAM would create those plays. He has the speed and instincts for that job.

When teams had 3rd and 4-6 against Dallas where did they go religiously? To the left on a quick slant. Why? Because Dallas was usually in a zone and the LB to Carr's side was not in position, or Wilcox was not in position. And Carr was always a little too far off, but that LBer is supposed to fill that zone. Thats the responsibility for that LBer.

Stephen Jones himself said this high in the draft you look for "premium positions" in a radio interview weeks ago. He then proceeded to list those positions as pass rusher, LT, QB and CB . You can downplay whatever you're talking about with Sturm as much as you like, but fact is it came straight out of a key decision makers mouth.
 

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Resigns: Mackenzey Bernadeau C/G, James Hanna Te, Jeff Heath S, Rolando McClain LB, Kyle Wilber LB, Jack Crawford DL, Morris Claiborne CB,
Releases: JJ Wilcox S, Andrew Gachkar LB, Brandon Carr CB
Restructures: Tyron Smith T, Tyrone Crawford DT
Cap Room: 35mil
Free Agents: Robert Griffin III QB, Demarcus Ware DE

Round 1
1. Titans - Laremy Tunsil T Ole MIss
2. Browns - Jared Goff QB
3. Chargers - Jalen Ramsey S Florida State
4. Cowboys - Myles Jack LB UCLA
Dallas drafts a star to go to form a very good LBer core. Jack starts his career at the SAM and will move over to the will once Lee moves on. Jack can actually move to S or the slot in passing downs.

Round 2
Austin Johnson DT Penn State
Completes this DL. A big guy who can take on the double team but still get up the field and get a rush up the gut.

Round 3
Alex Collins RB Arkansas
RB to team up with McFadden but i can see him taking over at some point in 2016.

Round 4
Dak Prescott QB Miss State
Dual threat QB who has time to develop

Round 4(COMP)
Rashard Robinson CB LSU
Very talented guy who has hasnt played for a yr because of issues with school. Without these issues this guy would be one of the top CBs in this draft.

Round 6(OAK)
Tevin Carter S Utah
Smart leader type .

Round 6(COMP)
Aaron Green RB TCU
change of pace back who can be the guy this team wanted Dunbar to be


QB: Romo, Griffin, Prescott
RB: McFadden, Collins, Greene
WR: Dez, TW, Beasley, Butler, Lucky
TE: Witten, Hanna, Swaim
LT: Smith, Green
LG: Collins, Bernadeau
C: Martin Bernadeau
RB: Martin, Bernadeau
RT: Free, Green

LDE: Lawrence, Irving
3T: Crawford, Irving, Whaley
1T: Johnson, McClain
RDE: Ware, Gregory
SAM: Jack, Wilson
MIKE: McClain, Hitchens, Nzeocha
WILL: Lee, Hitchens
CB: Scandrick, Claiborne, Robinson, Olotaye, Mitchell
FS: Jones, Heath
SS: Church, Carter
Latin, what about the corners. You trust Mo to be a starter?
 

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How did that work out?

One of the biggest draft bust in history. Maybe I need to rephrase. Name me a cover LB taken in the top 5 that didn't suck

Other then Hawk I gotta go all the way back to Quintion Coryott to get guys taken that high and neither had careers remotely close to there draft value
 
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