My questions after tonight.

[pugilist]

I think he will learn to become a better blocker but it is hard to turn a guy into a better pass catcher.

agreed.

 

[ThreeandOut]

It may take Escobar 3 years to be a complete TE but I don't think it will take long for him to be a weapon in the passing game, especially in redzone situations. Dallas drafted him as a receiving TE given his frame I think they do envision him adding weight and strength to that 6’6” frame

It won't surprise me if Escobar has more TD receptions than Witten this year.

 

[Doomsday101]

It won't surprise me if Escobar has more TD receptions than Witten this year.

I just hope to see a productive player

 

[big dog cowboy]

2) Escobar is at least 3 years away from being an NFL TE.

Stopped right there.

 

[Wolf2k5]

Was it just me or were there no actual questions other than did we notice Webb is tiny? Seemed like a lot of blanket statements for people we haven't seen really get a chance yet

 

[Denim Chicken]

2) Escobar is at least 3 years away from being an NFL TE.

I think he's about a week away...

 

[Miller]

I'm not sure why people have their panties in a wad because people are picking apart Escobar. I posted an article here a couple of weeks back about how he was the worst blocking TE in the league by stats in the preseason. He needs serious blocking help. Because of this it will be harder to get him on the field to use his hands. The reason why people are busting chops on a second round pick is because 2nd round picks are supposed to be instant contributors, not projects that need a lot of help. I think next year will be an improvement for him because of his work ethic but it's not a reach to say so far he isn't exactly 2nd round material. Hopefully with the constant work, he makes a bigger jump in season.

 

[DogFace]

Give me a break. The kid has caught everything. And who would YOU have drafted? Warford wasn't on their board and Winters has been a disappointment. I think some fans would rather be right than see Escobar succeed.

No. This is the first I've commented on Escobar. I hope very badly he succeeds. I'm not one of those "fans" who does that ever. I just don't think he was much of a need even in the near future. Warford not on our board is a problem.

 

[DogFace]

Some folks just need something to complain about

I'm pretty sure this was my first complaint on this board. It actually wasn't much of a complaint. I just replied with my opinion. Sorry if I hurt your feelings.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

Escobar will be fine catching check downs, you need 6 yards he'll get you 6 yards, you need 10 yards, he'll get you 6 yards.

Since Parcells was here, the two TE set was suppose to be our main offense. Parcells drafted Witten and signed Campbell. Then Fasano was drafted to pair with Witten. Fasano was gifted to Miami along with Ayodele for a 4th pick, and Marty B was drafted to pair with Witten. Marty B leaves and now another 2nd round TE to pair with Witten.

I seriously doubt that the two TE set will be our base offense again this year. The best offense again this year will be the 3 WR sets. Our OL will be the reason, we will fall behind and have to play catch up again this year like we always do.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

1) I know we've had an entire 4 months to see this, but until tonight I didn't notice how small WWW is? He's listed as 5'10", but honestly looks 5'7" and on that touchdown he looked like a kid. The large WR's are going to kill him. Scandrick is 5'10" and he's more than a couple inches taller than Webb. But he has the coolest name on our team (William Wilson Webb)...........

that's the case for most DBs these days, except some who are considered elite......most big fast tall players move to the WR side.

2) Escobar is at least 3 years away from being an NFL TE. No way he was worth a 2nd round pick, except by the Cowboys. Go back and watch the plays where all he has to do is block opposite side of ball. It's comical, he get's thrown around at will by whoever is in front of him. And he just seems dumb. I'm not trying to be mean. He's one of those guys who's made it his entire life based upon his size. Now, he's just tall...

it was well known prior to draft that he couldn't block and he is initially just a recieving TE. and how do you figure 3 years? a year in weight training and he can be a servicable TE for blocking. its just a strength issue more so than anything else.

3) Again, I'm excited about watching certain fundamentals that I haveen't seen around here since the days of Jimmy. We have 2 defensive coordiantors who just seem to know old school defensive football. Every play these guys are gang tackling, ripping at the ball, flying around looking for hits. Here is my number one prediction for the entire year. IF WE STAY HEALTHY, WE ARE A TOP 3 DEFENSE!!!!

4) We still need to pick up a safety who get's cut. Wilcox is more of the same. Most everything he does, he does it wrong. We didn't have time to pick projects at that position this year. You can tell he's only played there one year in his life.

he was rated a top 100 player by most. most rookies picked mid rounds down are a bit of a project. unless you spend a first rounder and hit on him, this is what you get picking mid round. so level set your expectation.

5) Last time I'll say it, Keep SMITH, FREDRICK, and FREE. Do what you have to with everyone else but don't play any of them. Everyone is hoping for Leary, and I don't get it. What, When, Why are my questions about him. I HOPE I'M WRONG. I will take back everything I've ever said about this OL if they prove me wrong. I PRAY TO GOD I'M WRONG. I WILL APOLOGIZE IF I'M WRONG...

There are too many things to be excited about to let this one thing keep me down. I honestly believe we are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CLOSE!!! And there are tons of people out there that aren't giving us a chance to do anything....I should send them some of my JJ Juice, cause once again I CAN"t wait for this thing to get going!!!!!

 

[Idgit]

I'm not sure why people have their panties in a wad because people are picking apart Escobar. I posted an article here a couple of weeks back about how he was the worst blocking TE in the league by stats in the preseason. He needs serious blocking help. Because of this it will be harder to get him on the field to use his hands. The reason why people are busting chops on a second round pick is because 2nd round picks are supposed to be instant contributors, not projects that need a lot of help. I think next year will be an improvement for him because of his work ethic but it's not a reach to say so far he isn't exactly 2nd round material. Hopefully with the constant work, he makes a bigger jump in season.

He hasn't been bad as a passing option in the preseason games. I do get the feeling that we've not seen *anything* re: what they plan on doing with TEs in the passing game in the regular season yet.

As far as Escobar goes, he's the victim of Fasano-Bennett-OG rabidity. The only way he changes that is by becoming a very good player. Check that, Anthony Spencer proved that Escobar actually probably has to become a great player to overcome that initial bias from a subset of our fans. There's nothing else for it.

I think he's at a position and in a roster situation where it's going to be very difficult for him to have a significant impact this season anywhere other than in the red zone passing game. If he works hard on the mental part of the game, and adds significant weight in the offseason, I think the guy's got a shot at being a real weapon for us in a year or two. That said, he's shown less as a second round pick than some of the players we drafted below him, and, given the temperament of the fan base when he came in, that's a recipe for dislike until he absolutely blows up a game at some point and makes a statement to shut everybody up.

 

[FLcowboy]

I don't know man.....I think it takes 3 years to get a true guide of how good your draft was but Escobar should be showing us something by next season. Maybe he does it this season. Who knows. But 3 years is far too late for us to not even get any flashes from him.

We didn't see the real Bryant until late in the third year. Three years for Escobar ought to be about right.

 

[Common Sense]

It's early, but you WOULD expect your second round TE to beat out the 6th rounder from the year before at some point, wouldn't you?

 

[Idgit]

It's early, but you WOULD expect your second round TE to beat out the 6th rounder from the year before at some point, wouldn't you?

Not necessarily, when that 6th rounder was, along with Leary, the talk of the back-roster last season.

TE is not an easy position to walk in and pick up. You've got to know all the blocking responsibilities for both rush and pass downs, you've got your routes, and, in Escobar's case, he's a guy they think can play the y for them, too. It's a lot to handle. Add in the fact that they took him knowing he needed to add strength and needed help with blocking technique, and that they like the guy they took last year a lot, and it shouldn't be a surprise that they're bringing him along slowly.

That said, the guy is getting passing game looks in the preseason games, and he's catching most everything that comes his way. I think he's pretty much right on schedule.

 

[brickman]

I think our OLine is going to be much better. I think moving Free to guard and adding Frederick will improve it dramatically. My concern is if/when someone gets injured. Our backups are not very good and the line guys usually get dinged up. If we can avoid the injury bug, I think we all will be pleasantly surprised. That being said, we already have some guys hurt. I'm just crossing my fingers.

 

[conner01]

Give me a break. The kid has caught everything. And who would YOU have drafted? Warford wasn't on their board and Winters has been a disappointment. I think some fans would rather be right than see Escobar succeed.

remember how many people thought we got the wrong guy with ware over merriman. merriman was a beast and jerry blew it. kinda hard to evaluate a draft after one year, let alone 30 or 40 pre season plays

 

[dmq]

Like it or not, Escobar is one of the ingredients to our secret sauce.

 

[coult44]

People bashing Escobar are absolutely amazing to me. The guy has caught everything thrown his way and would have had a TD last night but for a rookie moment.

I'm picking your reply to respond to #1, because I like a lot of what you say because you bring good football IQ and Cowboys passion to the table in most of your posts. #2, because I think you have one of the coolest names on board,

I'm not "HATING" on Escobar. He's our latest 2nd round pick and we are going to need him in the future. I haven't given up on him for sure, and not this soon. Last time I gave up on a guy from day one was "Barbie Carpenter", and before that the infamous "QC"... I'm not one of the guys who just like to complain and find stuff to gripe about. In everything I say on this particular site, I try to be pretty balanced in my complaints and my compliments. I realize there are far toooooo many COWBOYS FANS on this site to ever think we are all going to agree on everything. It's just never gonna happen. In the end we all want the same exact thing, A WORLD CHAMPION DALLAS COWBOYS FOOTBALL TEAM!!!! My point with the Escobar part of the post was that he was our 2nd round draft pick. He was #47 overall. Honestly we don't have and didn't have a huge TE problem going into the draft. Witten, Hanna, Rosario, and Smith isn't a bad group of TE's any way you look at it. In fact, it's pretty dang good. A few months ago Jerry Jones said, "our window may be closing." I don't believe the Super Bowl window for this team is closing whatsoever. We have a core group of veterans that are getting older, but if we go with what JJ said it is. With his logic being used, he completely disregarded his own beliefs by drafting Escobar as high as he did. If our window of Super Bowl opportunity is closing, then he should have drafted either the BPA, or for the position of greatest need. Can you imagine if we would have grabbed one more Frederick at pick #47. I have been pretty open here about how my feelings changed about Frederick since we first took him. I don't have any problem at all admitting that I was wrong about him. Everyone in the business had him at a low 2nd or 3rd round pick, so stupidly I bit on that and completely blew it. I'm very excited and blown away at what Frederick has done so far. He's proven that he should have been ranked up there with the top OL picked in the entire draft. He might not be the most athletic, biggest, or fastest, but I love everything about him and really don't care about all the other intangibles. He's a leader, he's as strong as he needs to be, and I can see him becoming a pro bowl caliber player for us.Here is my main point! We should have done the exact same thing with the 47th pick as we did with Fredrick. If we were good enough and did our homework enough to go against the entire football world with Frederick, you can't tell me we couldn't have found one more OL that would have done the same thing for us. I'm not hating on Escobar, I'm simply making a case that with one more guy like Fredrick instead of him, it could have been the piece of the puzzle that solidified our run to the top of the NFC....And you can call me crazy with that last statement, but I really believe we are an offensive line away from being a legitimate Super Bowl contender!!!! I don't know who those guys are, I don't know how we will get them, but I know they are not already here. Plenty of FA's were available and we didn't get them. I would have taken Brian Winters or perhpas Jordan Mills instead of Escobar. Right out of the gate, they are better than any our guards, and would have been a better 2nd round pick than Escobar. It really doesn't matter now, it's too late now. But, I do hope we look at some late cuts and get some help in here before the season begins...

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

We didn't see the real Bryant until late in the third year. Three years for Escobar ought to be about right.

I don't know about that. Soon as Dez showed up on the field he was showing flashes. I'm not comparing thte two because Dez even in a year where he missed his last year of college was a freak of nature. Dez struggled most with his conditioning which probably had to do with him missing that year of on the field work. But Dez already proved he was a threat that 1st season he lined up. Escobar should be showing us SOMETHING that encourages us this season. Waiting 3 years to see it is far too long.