My Thoughts 10.11

[LatinMind]

Gonna start with, Dak. Jerry is basically saying he thinks Dak is his guy to lead the team to the super bowl. Now wether I believe that or not atleast I know this team is going to roll with Dak. Me I think it's more because of the money they owe him.

Kurt Warner a HOF QB basically destroyed the talk heads and hating cowboy fans ignorant stances. While he did say Dak didn't have a good game, he put context into his words. Instead of trying to hit some sound bites. Kurt is basically saying Dallas biggest problems are play design and lazy routes being run. He does say Dak still holds the ball longer than he should but isn't the reason these plays aren't working.

On play design he showed the int by Werner. And showed cooks and lamb running double slants. With the inside slant typically would run 1 yard then slant, while the back slant would typically run 3 yards then slant. Giving the QB space to get the ball there. But either by design or lazy routes by cooks and lamb both slant at the same depth which leaves Werner in perfect position.

I see what I see and there's times I think Dak is playing like trash. And there will be Kurt there to point out things I'm ignorant to myself. This is the problem with us fans, we can watch the game but we don't really know the reads and the defensive disguises. I still don't like what I'm seeing from Dak. I know he can get it done because he's done it before. Just think he's paying too much attention to media heads and lost alot of confidence.

Tony Pollard isn't half the rb Elliot even was last yr. He had success because Dallas would wear them down with Elliot and bring in a fresh Pollard and he's eat up a tiring defense. I'd like to see Luepke get more carries.

The biggest issue on offense is everything is in front of the first down marker. So the good teams can sit their S' back and there's literally nobody open. Warner points out Dallas calling bunched formation to the short side of the field alot which just crowds the defensive backfield in that area, so you basically got 1 or 2 man routes on the wide side with that extra s or LB free to cut off hot routes leaving 1 slow developing route to depend on alot of the time.

The defense just got their butts handed to them. Plain and simple they got beat in every aspect of the game.

That's gonna happen when you play one of the best teams in the nfl and ur not prepared. You don't bring your A game ur gonna get it handed to you. Dallas didn't and this was the outcome. They've been dealing with alot of injuries the past 2 weeks it happens.

 

[Sydla]

Gonna start with, Dak. Jerry is basically saying he thinks Dak is his guy to lead the team to the super bowl. Now wether I believe that or not atleast I know this team is going to roll with Dak. Me I think it's more because of the money they owe him.

Kurt Warner a HOF QB basically destroyed the talk heads and hating cowboy fans ignorant stances. While he did say Dak didn't have a good game, he put context into his words. Instead of trying to hit some sound bites. Kurt is basically saying Dallas biggest problems are play design and lazy routes being run. He does say Dak still holds the ball longer than he should but isn't the reason these plays aren't working.

On play design he showed the int by Werner. And showed cooks and lamb running double slants. With the inside slant typically would run 1 yard then slant, while the back slant would typically run 3 yards then slant. Giving the QB space to get the ball there. But either by design or lazy routes by cooks and lamb both slant at the same depth which leaves Werner in perfect position.

I see what I see and there's times I think Dak is playing like trash. And there will be Kurt there to point out things I'm ignorant to myself. This is the problem with us fans, we can watch the game but we don't really know the reads and the defensive disguises. I still don't like what I'm seeing from Dak. I know he can get it done because he's done it before. Just think he's paying too much attention to media heads and lost alot of confidence.

Tony Pollard isn't half the rb Elliot even was last yr. He had success because Dallas would wear them down with Elliot and bring in a fresh Pollard and he's eat up a tiring defense. I'd like to see Luepke get more carries.

The biggest issue on offense is everything is in front of the first down marker. So the good teams can sit their S' back and there's literally nobody open. Warner points out Dallas calling bunched formation to the short side of the field alot which just crowds the defensive backfield in that area, so you basically got 1 or 2 man routes on the wide side with that extra s or LB free to cut off hot routes leaving 1 slow developing route to depend on alot of the time.

The defense just got their butts handed to them. Plain and simple they got beat in every aspect of the game.

That's gonna happen when you play one of the best teams in the nfl and ur not prepared. You don't bring your A game ur gonna get it handed to you. Dallas didn't and this was the outcome. They've been dealing with alot of injuries the past 2 weeks it happens.

On, #1, never put any faith in the words that come out of Jerry's mouth. But as you said, what could be driving this is just the money. But the Lance acquisition is just odd here. If you are that confident in Dak, there's no reason to make that trade. Rush is a decent enough backup. I can't wrap my head around the logic of Jerry making that move.

Warner basically said what most smart Cowboys fans said. The problems on O are multi-faceted. The QB isn't good enough and the OC isn't good enough. Dak is clearly a limited QB but a better OC would get more out of him than McCarthy is. There's no doubt that a guy like Shanahan or Mike McDaniel would have Dak playing better but would it be enough to make a SB run? I doubt it.

 

[Denim Chicken]

ony Pollard isn't half the rb Elliot even was last yr. He had success because Dallas would wear them down with Elliot and bring in a fresh Pollard and he's eat up a tiring defense. I'd like to see Luepke get more carries.

I don't buy this narrative. Tony was performing ealry in games last year. It wasn't like Zeke was pounding the D for any significant time before they brought Tony in. They were splitting reps.

If anything, I think the injury has caused him to lose some explosiveness. Don't know if it comes back.

 

[Praxit]

...good post, Latinmind. I'm good with it.

I also saw Warner's breakdown. I trust his analysis.

So we got hope, that MM or Shotty get better or smarter drawing up plays.

 

[Sydla]

I don't buy this narrative. Tony was performing ealry in games last year. It wasn't like Zeke was pounding the D for any significant time before they brought Tony in. They were splitting reps.

If anything, I think the injury has caused him to lose some explosiveness. Don't know if it comes back.

Yep.

And some showed stats, I believe, this offseason to pop the whole "Elliott softened up the D for Pollard" talk balloon.

Pollard has not been great this year but it has little to do with Elliott and more to do with the overall performance of the offense, especially the dude calling plays.

 

[Cowboy_svt]

do we not pay our OCs?
Is there any reason why for the past 5ish or more years we constantly have complaints with the routes?
I mean honestly, do these guys never watch tape and be like, hmm our qb needs every little bit of help he can get let me design some better routes? Does jerry walk in and punch them in the mouth in a drunken stupor and go "jus beat yur man huhuh go cowboys" and thats the gameplan?

 

[VaqueroTD]

Gonna start with, Dak. Jerry is basically saying he thinks Dak is his guy to lead the team to the super bowl. Now wether I believe that or not atleast I know this team is going to roll with Dak. Me I think it's more because of the money they owe him.

Kurt Warner a HOF QB basically destroyed the talk heads and hating cowboy fans ignorant stances. While he did say Dak didn't have a good game, he put context into his words. Instead of trying to hit some sound bites. Kurt is basically saying Dallas biggest problems are play design and lazy routes being run. He does say Dak still holds the ball longer than he should but isn't the reason these plays aren't working.

On play design he showed the int by Werner. And showed cooks and lamb running double slants. With the inside slant typically would run 1 yard then slant, while the back slant would typically run 3 yards then slant. Giving the QB space to get the ball there. But either by design or lazy routes by cooks and lamb both slant at the same depth which leaves Werner in perfect position.

I see what I see and there's times I think Dak is playing like trash. And there will be Kurt there to point out things I'm ignorant to myself. This is the problem with us fans, we can watch the game but we don't really know the reads and the defensive disguises. I still don't like what I'm seeing from Dak. I know he can get it done because he's done it before. Just think he's paying too much attention to media heads and lost alot of confidence.

Tony Pollard isn't half the rb Elliot even was last yr. He had success because Dallas would wear them down with Elliot and bring in a fresh Pollard and he's eat up a tiring defense. I'd like to see Luepke get more carries.

The biggest issue on offense is everything is in front of the first down marker. So the good teams can sit their S' back and there's literally nobody open. Warner points out Dallas calling bunched formation to the short side of the field alot which just crowds the defensive backfield in that area, so you basically got 1 or 2 man routes on the wide side with that extra s or LB free to cut off hot routes leaving 1 slow developing route to depend on alot of the time.

The defense just got their butts handed to them. Plain and simple they got beat in every aspect of the game.

That's gonna happen when you play one of the best teams in the nfl and ur not prepared. You don't bring your A game ur gonna get it handed to you. Dallas didn't and this was the outcome. They've been dealing with alot of injuries the past 2 weeks it happens.

If the team doesn't go far this year, someone takes the fall. Either Coach or Dak. Don't know how much pull Kurt Warner has with old Jerry, but could very easily see this headed Coach Mac's way instead of Dak's way with the players and owner. With fans, feels to be on Dak.

 

[LatinMind]

do we not pay our OCs?
Is there any reason why for the past 5ish or more years we constantly have complaints with the routes?
I mean honestly, do these guys never watch tape and be like, hmm our qb needs every little bit of help he can get let me design some better routes? Does jerry walk in and punch them in the mouth in a drunken stupor and go "jus beat yur man huhuh go cowboys" and thats the gameplan?

Because these wr run lazy routes. When you see videos of qbs doing reviews of the Dallas offense every single one will mention the issues with the routes. Is it a coaching Issue or a player just being lazy.

Me I think this team just had too many generals and not enough grunts

 

[Gambit]

Kurt is basically saying Dallas biggest problems are play design and lazy routes being run

This was stated by people last year too, lazy routes. Points to a coaching issue.

Just think he's paying too much attention to media heads and lost alot of confidence.

I would agree here. You can tell the media at least local media has really gotten in his head at his pressers.

 

[CowboyFrog]

do we not pay our OCs?
Is there any reason why for the past 5ish or more years we constantly have complaints with the routes?
I mean honestly, do these guys never watch tape and be like, hmm our qb needs every little bit of help he can get let me design some better routes? Does jerry walk in and punch them in the mouth in a drunken stupor and go "jus beat yur man huhuh go cowboys" and thats the gameplan?

Well when Noah Brown is a #2 in your WR room you've got a problem, this year its just lack of focus by the OC in my opinion. They need to stress execution moving forward.

 

[RS12]

Warner didnt destroy anything. As a water carrier for both the Jones family and a medocre QB, i am hardly surprised some of you refuse to believe your own eyes.

 

[Sydla]

Warner didnt destroy anything. As a water carrier for both the Jones family and a medocre QB, i am hardly surprised some of you refuse to believe your own eyes.

I mean I guess if one believes everything is tied to Dak and if you replace him all our problems go away then yeah, they got destroyed here because Warner basically blames multiple people. I think the main point from Warner here was to say blaming Dak solely is wrong. He's a problem but there are some other significant problems too.

 

[Mr_437]

There's always an excuse. Kurt Warner is right, but he didn't breakdown the whole game, and no matter what Dak is still responsible. If WRs are running lazy routes and not getting open what is a QB supposed to do? I'll give you a hint, it's certainly not throw the ball and get it intercepted which has happened repeatedly dating back to last season.

If you think Zeke is a better RB than TP right now or last season your eyes are not made to analyze football.

 

[RS12]

Nobody soley blames him. But he is at the top of the list. Earth to some of you people: he is never going to get this team where it needs to go.

 

[VaqueroTD]

There's always an excuse. Kurt Warner is right, but he didn't breakdown the whole game, and no matter what Dak is still responsible. If WRs are running lazy routes and not getting open what is a QB supposed to do? I'll give you a hint, it's certainly not throw the ball and get it intercepted which has happened repeatedly dating back to last season.

If you think Zeke is a better RB than TP right now or last season your eyes are not made to analyze football.

Some QBs like the one who has our number -- Aaron Rodgers -- are not afraid to jump on the throat of a WR who does something stupid. Just saying. Aikman definitely did it. I saw Aikman calling out crazy Charles Haley. LOL

And I second your Pollard/Zeke comparison. Zeke 5 years ago was better. Not last year.

 

[Zman5]

Warner pointed out the issues with the depth of the routes and the timing problems it will cause last year.

So this problem isn’t due to the new offense. It existed with KM's offense also.

 

[Mr_437]

Some QBs like the one who has our number -- Aaron Rodgers -- are not afraid to jump on the throat of a WR who does something stupid. Just saying. Aikman definitely did it. I saw Aikman calling out crazy Charles Haley. LOL

And I second your Pollard/Zeke comparison. Zeke 5 years ago was better. Not last year.

Everyone would call Aikman n Rodgers leaders, and there's many other QBs that will bark at a WR for running a lazy route or going the wrong way. We've seen QBs chew out WRs many times, and ppl will say he's such a leader or such a competitor, right? Where is that with Dak? Prescott is going to get blamed, so maybe it's time for his leadership skills to be a bit more aggressive.

 

[Captain-Crash]

when you are scared of your shakey qb you design short fast routes. Why not go out and everybody run back toward the line of scrimmage to help the dak. Is that a curl route?

 

[Captain-Crash]

Everyone would call Aikman n Rodgers leaders, and there's many other QBs that will bark at a WR for running a lazy route or going the wrong. We've QBs chew out WRs many times, and ppl will say he's such a leader or such a competitor, right? Where is that with Dak? Prescott is going to get blamed, so maybe it's time for his leadership skills to be a bit more aggressive.

he's usually on the bench pouting with his head down hoping some of the guys will come by so he can give them some leadership. shrugs

 

[foofighters]

Gonna start with, Dak. Jerry is basically saying he thinks Dak is his guy to lead the team to the super bowl. Now wether I believe that or not atleast I know this team is going to roll with Dak. Me I think it's more because of the money they owe him.

Kurt Warner a HOF QB basically destroyed the talk heads and hating cowboy fans ignorant stances. While he did say Dak didn't have a good game, he put context into his words. Instead of trying to hit some sound bites. Kurt is basically saying Dallas biggest problems are play design and lazy routes being run. He does say Dak still holds the ball longer than he should but isn't the reason these plays aren't working.

On play design he showed the int by Werner. And showed cooks and lamb running double slants. With the inside slant typically would run 1 yard then slant, while the back slant would typically run 3 yards then slant. Giving the QB space to get the ball there. But either by design or lazy routes by cooks and lamb both slant at the same depth which leaves Werner in perfect position.

I see what I see and there's times I think Dak is playing like trash. And there will be Kurt there to point out things I'm ignorant to myself. This is the problem with us fans, we can watch the game but we don't really know the reads and the defensive disguises. I still don't like what I'm seeing from Dak. I know he can get it done because he's done it before. Just think he's paying too much attention to media heads and lost alot of confidence.

Tony Pollard isn't half the rb Elliot even was last yr. He had success because Dallas would wear them down with Elliot and bring in a fresh Pollard and he's eat up a tiring defense. I'd like to see Luepke get more carries.

The biggest issue on offense is everything is in front of the first down marker. So the good teams can sit their S' back and there's literally nobody open. Warner points out Dallas calling bunched formation to the short side of the field alot which just crowds the defensive backfield in that area, so you basically got 1 or 2 man routes on the wide side with that extra s or LB free to cut off hot routes leaving 1 slow developing route to depend on alot of the time.

The defense just got their butts handed to them. Plain and simple they got beat in every aspect of the game.

That's gonna happen when you play one of the best teams in the nfl and ur not prepared. You don't bring your A game ur gonna get it handed to you. Dallas didn't and this was the outcome. They've been dealing with alot of injuries the past 2 weeks it happens.

So what would Tom Brady do if receivers were running lazy routes? What would Tom Brady if the play design was flawed? Where the receivers were breaking on the same yardage and linebacker was not committing to either going inside or outside, what does Tom Brady do? These are the things that separate a champion from an average QB.