My Thoughts 4-9

[LatinMind]

With the loss yesterday Dallas moved up 2 spots and are now drafting in the 4th spot. Im going to talk about this for a second. If Dallas stays at 4 and the top 3 teams ahead of them stay the same, Dallas IMO hits the jackpot because (TEN,SD,CLE) will not draft QBs. IF theres one its CLE but i think they finally got through to Manziel. And i say Dallas would hit the jackpot because their phone would be ringing off the hook. DALLAS WILL NOT BE DRAFTING A QB IN ROUND 1. There are bigger holes on this team that dont have answers, then to spend that #4 pick on a QB who will be sitting for 2-3 yrs. SF, CHI,STL would be in play to give Dallas a kings ransom. And as it sits now Dallas would still be drafting no lower than 11, and likely get back the following:
Trade with SF(7): RD3, RD4 pick
Trade with CHI(10): RD2, RD5
Trade with STL(11): RD2, RD4
But then you take into account it's a trade for a QB. So the price goes up. And the top QB most likely in the draft. I know some people will get into a fit about not taking a Paxton Lynch but lets be honest. The guy plays against weak competition and plays in a spread offense always in the shotgun. Thats not Dallas' offense. So while he would fit for some teams, he's not really a lock for the Cowboys. That and they have a franchise QB who they still owe 30something mil in guranteed money to after this season. I dont see Dallas drafting a QB in RD1 in 2016. Jerry and Stephen have both said Romo is the guy for years still. Theyre talking about backup Qb situations not starting QB. And they shouldnt be talking bout that yet. Because Romo is a franchise QB. He had a injury yr. Just last yr he had one of the greatest years numbers wise in Cowboys history. So if the cards fall this way i think Dallas will walk away from #4 with atleast a RD2,RD3 from somebody and dont even be suprised to see a RD1 in 2017 in there in place of that RD2 pick.

Now to get to lastnight.

Dez Bryant, where have you gone? This guy is turning into Terrell Owens. All the talent in the world, but drops easy passes and doesnt know when to shut up. I get he needs to try to explain himself, but he lets himself get baited too easy by hack reporters. All that Dez and TW talk on the sidelines, please just laugh it off and say next question. I dont even care about the mouth so much. Im talking bout the drops. How is a player of his caliber going to be dropping passes like that all night? Cassell was off early but you're a superstar, you;ve made bad Romo throws look routine. Witten didnt seem to have trouble getting the bad passes in his vicinity. Im not talking about them horrible 10 yrds too deep throws to TW either. Im talking about the ugly slightly high throws that hit Dez in both hands. Get your act together Dez because you're embarrassing yourself. Especially when you're getting in your coaches and QBs face when ur dropping balls left and right now. Talk the talk, and walk the walk my dude.

Morris Claiborne had a horrible game last night. Guy was beat what seems like in every route in the tree. This IMO has some to do with him not being healthy(which he never is) and the scheme. Running zone scheme with no pressure is doomed from the get go. Especially with a QB like rogers wh gets the ball out fast. What happened to the aggressive play calling from the washington game? IMO that again goes to who the Cowboys played lastnight. rogers is mobile and you expose the secondary with a QB like him if ur blitzing him the way you did Cousins. Thats Day and night. Think you just went up against a HOF QB who you held in check for most of the game. But when your offense cant do anything the defense will crumble eventually.

Im startig to like what this team has in Gregory, Lawrence, Crawford, Hayden. Would be nice to have Hardy in 2016 but i dont think they will like the price. And he will walk. I hope im wrong, but this team looks decent up front. You could substitute a guy like Nkemdiche for Hayden and move him to backup and would improve this defense alot. BUt IDK if Dallas would use a RD1 pick on another Dt when they just paid Crawford all that money. A guy like Kenny Clark in RD2 two i could see. I think this team is still waiting to see what Chris Whaley could do.

Dallas could've ran all over the Packers last night if they kept mixing it up. they showed no signs of them being able to stop the OL from imposing their will. That was frustrating seeing the run game mismanaged like that.

Its clear this team needs smarter WRs. This group as a collective is some of the dumbest football players in the NFL. It seems like none of them know what a hot route is. None of them seem to know their surroundings and where the first down marker is. My dream would be to get rid of all of them. BUt Dez and his 70 mil are stuck in Dallas. So is Beasley, but after that get rid of them all. Lucky is starting to develop into a nice return guy who teams will start respecting. Harris started off the same way Lucky did, made bonehead plays and just got experience and he started seeing lanes. Thats why theyre called developmental players.

The two biggest problem areas on this team are WRs and DBs. I think both of these position coaches will be fired and rightfully so. And i think both these areas need to be cleaned out in the offseason. IN WRs i would keep Dez, Beasley, TW, Lucky bring in a player or two in the draft. IN the secondary i would keep Jones, Scandrick, Patmon, Wilcox, and Heath and maybe Claiborne on a light deal. Draft a player like Hargreaves in RD1 and Cash in RD3 and start building it right.

My outlook for right now for 2016

QB Romo, FA/Rookie
RB Rookie, McFadden, Dunbar
FB Clutts
WR Dez, Rookie/FA, Beasley, TW/Rookie/FA, Lucky/FA
TW Witten, Escobar, Hanna
LT Tyron, FA/Rookie
LG Collins, Leary
C Fredrick, Bernadeau
RG Martin, Leary
RT Green/FA, Rookie/FA

LDE Lawrence, Mincey
RDE Gregory, Rookie
3tech Crawford, Crawford/Whaley
1tech Rookie/FA, Hayden
SLB Rookie/Hitchens, Wilber
MLB McClain/Rookie, Hitchens
WLB Lee, Wilson
LCB Rookie, Claiborne, Patmon
RCB Scandrick, Claiborne, Patmon
FS Jones, Heath
SS Rookie, Wilcox

K Bailey
P Jones

 

[Alexander]

With the loss yesterday Dallas moved up 2 spots and are now drafting in the 4th spot. Im going to talk about this for a second. If Dallas stays at 4 and the top 3 teams ahead of them stay the same, Dallas IMO hits the jackpot because (TEN,SD,CLE) will not draft QBs. IF theres one its CLE but i think they finally got through to Manziel. And i say Dallas would hit the jackpot because their phone would be ringing off the hook. DALLAS WILL NOT BE DRAFTING A QB IN ROUND 1. There are bigger holes on this team that dont have answers, then to spend that #4 pick on a QB who will be sitting for 2-3 yrs. SF, CHI,STL would be in play to give Dallas a kings ransom. And as it sits now Dallas would still be drafting no lower than 11, and likely get back the following:
Trade with SF(7): RD3, RD4 pick
Trade with CHI(10): RD2, RD5
Trade with STL(11): RD2, RD4

So Kevin Costner is running the 2016 draft for us?

 

[LatinMind]

So Kevin Costner is running the 2016 draft for us?

Better..Jerry Jones.

 

[Alexander]

Better..Jerry Jones.

The last time Jerry Jones executed multiple trade downs was back when he traded down several times and drafted---Quincy Carter.

It was just brilliant.

 

[Wolfpack]

I don't think it is the WR's who don't know what a hot route is or a 13 year vet. QB. They issues there are deeper.

As for the draft, I think you are right in that Jerry will double down yet again and try to find a weapon on offense to help his struggling trainee. I mean if you have a top 5 QB, a top 5 WR, a HOF TE and all 1st rd. picks on the line, then that should work right? Just need to add a top 4 pick WR or RB and shazam! all will be right again.

 

[LatinMind]

The last time Jerry Jones executed multiple trade downs was back when he traded down several times and drafted---Quincy Carter.

It was just brilliant.

Last time he traded down he got fredrick

 

[pjtoadie]

Wait all I keep hearing from many is that there's no top QB in this year's draft but now another team is going to give up a kings ransom for one? Yeah I know that even average QB's are always drafted higher than they should be but other than trading for RG3 and Julio Jones what other huge trades has there been in the first 10 picks?

 

[LatinMind]

I don't think it is the WR's who don't know what a hot route is or a 13 year vet. QB. They issues there are deeper.

As for the draft, I think you are right in that Jerry will double down yet again and try to find a weapon on offense to help his struggling trainee. I mean if you have a top 5 QB, a top 5 WR, a HOF TE and all 1st rd. picks on the line, then that should work right? Just need to add a top 4 pick WR or RB and shazam! all will be right again.

QB seems to be able to find the smart TE in the flat or down the field whenever he wants. How come theres no problem there?

 

[LatinMind]

Wait all I keep hearing from many is that there's no top QB in this year's draft but now another team is going to give up a kings ransom for one? Yeah I know that even average QB's are always drafted higher than they should be but other than trading for RG3 and Julio Jones what other huge top 5 trades has there been?

Maybe i shouldnt have used kings ransom because what i posted was clearly not it was just the trade chart value system. But for a team like SF STL CHI who either have no QB answer or a QB nobody on the team likes(CHI) they would id assume go calling Dallas. Because realistically the Jones' arent going to draft him. Anybody who is thinking clearly knows Romo is their guy and will be their guy for atleast 2 more yrs. Only people who think Romo is done are people on forums.

 

[pjtoadie]

Maybe i shouldnt have used kings ransom because what i posted was clearly not it was just the trade chart value system. But for a team like SF STL CHI who either have no QB answer or a QB nobody on the team likes(CHI) they would id assume go calling Dallas. Because realistically the Jones' arent going to draft him. Anybody who is thinking clearly knows Romo is their guy and will be their guy for atleast 2 more yrs. Only people who think Romo is done are people on forums.

I hear ya. You'd agree though that the Cowboys will probably then draft a QB in the earlier rounds?

 

[Wolfpack]

QB seems to be able to find the smart TE in the flat or down the field whenever he wants. How come theres no problem there?

Route design. The outside WR's generally run deeper routes that clear out the middle to let Witten or Beasly do his thing. That the entire offense in a nutshell.

Here: http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2014/8/3/5961849/dallas-cowboys-jason-garrett-coaching-philosophy

 

[LatinMind]

I hear ya. You'd agree though that the Cowboys will probably then draft a QB in the earlier rounds?

I dont think they touch a QB until maybe RD3 or 4, and probably 4 or 5. Thats where my bet would be

 

[DandyDon1722]

Thank god your safety projection has both Church and Wilcox off the field because of all the things that make me mad watching this team - their play tops the list. From tackling (atrocious) to ball awareness to blitzing to being a physical presence to taking angles they are deficient in everything. Byron Jones will get better, now we have to find another safety preferably in free agency.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to recognize positions we don't value as an organization. Safety, back up QB and a kick returner.

 

[LatinMind]

Thank god your safety projection has both Church and Wilcox off the field because of all the things that make me mad watching this team - their play tops the list. From tackling (atrocious) to ball awareness to blitzing to being a physical presence to taking angles they are deficient in everything. Byron Jones will get better, now we have to find another safety preferably in free agency.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to recognize positions we don't value as an organization. Safety, back up QB and a kick returner.

I really like Jeremy Cash in the draft

 

[LucaBrasi]

The two biggest problem areas on this team are WRs and DBs. I think both of these position coaches will be fired and rightfully so. And i think both these areas need to be cleaned out in the offseason. IN WRs i would keep Dez, Beasley, TW, Lucky bring in a player or two in the draft. IN the secondary i would keep Jones, Scandrick, Patmon, Wilcox, and Heath and maybe Claiborne on a light deal. Draft a player like Hargreaves in RD1 and Cash in RD3 and start building it right.

This is probably correct. But the bigger problem might be the guys evaluating and acquiring this personnel have thrown a ton of resources at it too. Dez in round 1, T-Will in round 3, Mo trade up in round 1, Wilcox in round 3, Carr $54 million FA signing, Byron Jones round 1. Plenty of dough and premium picks thrown at these positions and not a whole hell of alot of production. Ouch JJ.

 

[Fletch]

I dont think they touch a QB until maybe RD3 or 4, and probably 4 or 5. Thats where my bet would be

That's where I disagree. They'd be stupid not to put some effort into drafting Romo's eventual replacement with a top one or two draft pick. To continue kicking the can down the road thinking we'll find a capable QB in rounds 4 and beyond is insane. With that line of thinking, you most likely end up with another Stephen McGee. No thank you.

It's time to get plucking serious here. Do you really believe that after yet another significant injury, and another year in age that we'll get the 2014 version of Tony Romo in 2016? I sure the Hell don't. I'm rather thinking about the transition from Tony to the next QB leading this franchise into the future without having to deal with the massive void of not having that guy.

 

[RS12]

But then you take into account it's a trade for a QB. So the price goes up. And the top QB most likely in the draft. I know some people will get into a fit about not taking a Paxton Lynch but lets be honest. The guy plays against weak competition and plays in a spread offense always in the shotgun. Thats not Dallas' offense. So while he would fit for some teams, he's not really a lock for the Cowboys. That and they have a franchise QB who they still owe 30something mil in guranteed moneyto after this season. I dont see Dallas drafting a QB in RD1 in 2016. Jerry and Stephen have both said Romo is the guy for years still. Theyre talking about backup Qb situations not starting QB. And they shouldnt be talking bout that yet. Because Romo is a franchise QB. He had a injury yr. Just last yr he had one of the greatest years numbers wise in Cowboys history. So if the cards fall this way i think Dallas will walk away from #4 with atleast a RD2,RD3 from somebody and dont even be suprised to see a RD1 in 2017 in there in place of that RD2 pick.

We have already had this conversation. I bet the FO comes to the same conclusion everybody else with two eyes and a brain stem already has. That being counting on Romo's health going forward will lead to re runs of the 2015 season. Franchise QBs appear when they appear, not when you want them to. And I dont care what they say publicly or what money is owed.

 

[LucaBrasi]

We have already had this conversation. I bet the FO comes to the same conclusion everybody else with two eyes and a brain stem already has. That being counting on Romo's health going forward will lead to re runs of the 2015 season. Franchise QBs appear when they appear, not when you want them to. And I dont care what they say publicly or what money is owed.

I'll keep saying it - 5 offensive tds in 14 quarters with Romo under center this year. 5 td's and 7 ints. Maybe its not the end, and certainly the last 7 quarters of play can be attributed to rust, but they should certainly plan on the possibility. Love Tony, but Father Time remains undefeated.

 

[Satchel89]

Hard to believe that this team is this bad but obviously they have alot of players to evaluate. I don't know of any one position that you can call the strength of the team. I wouldn't of thought that before the season but this team is so hard and painful to watch. Hell anytime there is a good play, You're just waiting for a flag. The offense is absolutely putrid and so behind every other team in the NFL. The Jaguars are more explosive on offense. That's unbelievable to think about that. And the coaches need to take some of the blame for that. Keep running the same plays over and over that don't work. Morons. Forget adjustments because none are made at halftime. The defense is solid but they have zero playmakers. Hardy has been ok but he was supposed to be great. Lee and McClain haven't been good, Except for 1 or 2 games. The cornerbacks have no interceptions. 13 games and zero interceptions. That is a ridiculous stat. Alot of bad football and I just hope they draft well but as fans we all know they can screw that up too

 

[Direwolf63]

That's where I disagree. They'd be stupid not to put some effort into drafting Romo's eventual replacement with a top one or two draft pick. To continue kicking the can down the road thinking we'll find a capable QB in rounds 4 and beyond is insane. With that line of thinking, you most likely end up with another Stephen McGee. No thank you.

It's time to get plucking serious here. Do you really believe that after yet another significant injury, and another year in age that we'll get the 2014 version of Tony Romo in 2016? I sure the Hell don't. I'm rather thinking about the transition from Tony to the next QB leading this franchise into the future without having to deal with the massive void of not having that guy.

Exactly. The QB transition has to start this year. Doesn't mean that Romo is replaced this year. Just that his eventual replacement is in-house and learning so that in 2 years he's ready to go. That means drafting one high. Not in the 4th or 5th round. That would be a big mistake, IMO.