My Thoughts On The HB Position

[darthseinfeld]

- I think Randle can carry the ball 300+ times effectively if asked. Question is will they give him that kind of workload. My biggest concern with him, and it has more to do with him being untested, is the 3rd and 1's and goalline carries. Thats something Im going to watch for in preseason

- I believe McFadden offers us alot, however its asking alot for a 7 year pro with an extensive injury history who has been battered running behind poor lines to stay healthy throughout the season. I believe the best was to keep him effective through out the season is minimize his rushing duties and maximize his abilities as a blocker and receiver. He still has his jets, Im confident he can keep them all season if is giving us 80 carries and about 50 catches. Giving him close to 200 carries, Im not so confident.

- Dunbar's role on the team remains an enigma. He is a player alot of good word has been coming out about in camp, but as always what if any role in the offense he has remains a mystery. He seems like a fairly safe bet to make the roster, but if they decide to add another runner, he could be the odd man out.

- I believe if Dallas adds a back, it wont be a guy to start. It would probably either cost at least a 3rd rounder or eating a very large salary to get a back better then Randle and I dont think the club would be willing to do that unless Randle falls flat on his face or gets hurt in preseason. If we add anyone, it will likely be someone like a Thomas Rawls or an Anthony Dixon

 

[Bullet22]

- I think Randle can carry the ball 300+ times effectively if asked. Question is will they give him that kind of workload. My biggest concern with him, and it has more to do with him being untested, is the 3rd and 1's and goalline carries. Thats something Im going to watch for in preseason

- I believe McFadden offers us alot, however its asking alot for a 7 year pro with an extensive injury history who has been battered running behind poor lines to stay healthy throughout the season. I believe the best was to keep him effective through out the season is minimize his rushing duties and maximize his abilities as a blocker and receiver. He still has his jets, Im confident he can keep them all season if is giving us 80 carries and about 50 catches. Giving him close to 200 carries, Im not so confident.

- Dunbar's role on the team remains an enigma. He is a player alot of good word has been coming out about in camp, but as always what if any role in the offense he has remains a mystery. He seems like a fairly safe bet to make the roster, but if they decide to add another runner, he could be the odd man out.

- I believe if Dallas adds a back, it wont be a guy to start. It would probably either cost at least a 3rd rounder or eating a very large salary to get a back better then Randle and I dont think the club would be willing to do that unless Randle falls flat on his face or gets hurt in preseason. If we add anyone, it will likely be someone like a Thomas Rawls or an Anthony Dixon

Randle will implode at some point..maybe he will need some socks to go with the underwear..he seems too immature to handle a big load...Not giving a healthy DMC a big load is wasting him...

 

[darthseinfeld]

Or maybe Kadeem Carey



For big dog cowboy

 

[darthseinfeld]

Randle will implode at some point..maybe he will need some socks to go with the underwear..he seems too immature to handle a big load...Not giving a healthy DMC a big load is wasting him...

I think giving McFadden a big running workload is gonna make him unavailable to you lost of the season

 

[BAZ]

My biggest concern with Randal is staying out of trouble. With him possibly doing something crazy at any time and two injury prone back ups I'm a little nervous it could fall apart quickly. Then you are looking at Rice or Jackson and ew,just ew.

 

[darthseinfeld]

My biggest concern with Randal is staying out of trouble. With him possibly doing something crazy at any time and two injury prone back ups I'm a little nervous it could fall apart quickly. Then you are looking at Rice or Jackson and ew,just ew.

I think they would look at at least 50 other backs before Rice. Even before he beat his GF, the wheels fell off that compact

 

[BAZ]

I think they would look at at least 50 other backs before Rice. Even before he beat his GF, the wheels fell off that compact

Can you name 50? I'd struggle with ten.

 

[Bullet22]

I think giving McFadden a big running workload is gonna make him unavailable to you lost of the season

I worry about that also...but 200 to 250 is about right if healthy...ready to find out, it won't be long..They were going to do the rb rotation last season, but that did quite pan out....

 

[darthseinfeld]

Can you name 50? I'd struggle with ten.

If I had time I could.

Rice is Eddie George done

 

[jazzcat22]

If McFadden was injured all the time in Oakland then how could he have take a beating to be worn out.
Seems he can be healthy and fresh without all the wear and tear of a 7 year veteran player.
He can handle 200 to 250 or more carries.....

 

[casmith07]

Another running back thread.

 

[jazzcat22]

Another running back thread.

Yep, I almost posted that. Lol

 

[darthseinfeld]

Yep, I almost posted that. Lol

Another running back thread.

And two more posters that opened, read and posted

 

[darthseinfeld]

If McFadden was injured all the time in Oakland then how could he have take a beating to be worn out.
Seems he can be healthy and fresh without all the wear and tear of a 7 year veteran player.
He can handle 200 to 250 or more carries.....

Im sorry but Im not buying into a guy who has played more then 13 games in a season only once in his career staying healthy and maintaining a consistent rushing load all year

 

[visionary]

The running game is a huge issue that is a complete unknown at the moment.

If we don't have an effective and efficient running game, we will have MAJOR issues

 

[CF74]

Ride Em till the wheels fall off, then ride em sum mo, get Dunbar the ball too...

 

[ActualCowboysFan]

RB or not TB, that is the question.

 

[darthseinfeld]

RB or not TB, that is the question.

I dont think I have heard ot refered to as 'tailback" in quite some time

 

[CyberB0b]

- I think Randle can carry the ball 300+ times effectively if asked. Question is will they give him that kind of workload. My biggest concern with him, and it has more to do with him being untested, is the 3rd and 1's and goalline carries. Thats something Im going to watch for in preseason

- I believe McFadden offers us alot, however its asking alot for a 7 year pro with an extensive injury history who has been battered running behind poor lines to stay healthy throughout the season. I believe the best was to keep him effective through out the season is minimize his rushing duties and maximize his abilities as a blocker and receiver. He still has his jets, Im confident he can keep them all season if is giving us 80 carries and about 50 catches. Giving him close to 200 carries, Im not so confident.

- Dunbar's role on the team remains an enigma. He is a player alot of good word has been coming out about in camp, but as always what if any role in the offense he has remains a mystery. He seems like a fairly safe bet to make the roster, but if they decide to add another runner, he could be the odd man out.

- I believe if Dallas adds a back, it wont be a guy to start. It would probably either cost at least a 3rd rounder or eating a very large salary to get a back better then Randle and I dont think the club would be willing to do that unless Randle falls flat on his face or gets hurt in preseason. If we add anyone, it will likely be someone like a Thomas Rawls or an Anthony Dixon

#1 - People forget out of college that he was an all-purpose back and was considered a workhorse.

Who does this remind you of?

STRENGTHS
Productive back in the running and passing game. Possesses enough straight-line speed to eat up yardage when open lanes present themselves. Shows once wiggle in his game once past the line, gets would-be tacklers to lean the wrong way. Seems to fall forward a lot, and is adding weight to his frame each season to get stronger. Attacks targets as a blocker for bubble screens and two-back sets, also flashes the form and willingness to be an effective pass protector. Solid receiver on screens and over the middle; good hands to rein in wayward passes and his shifty hips make him elusive after the catch. Solid ball security, did not fumble in 251 touches in 2011.
WEAKNESSES
Taller back who will run a bit upright at times coming through the line or in the open field. Receiver-like build makes pushing the pile a chore. One-speed back without an elite burst, second gear or great acceleration in the open field. Must learn to explode from cuts using improving strength in his lower half. Struggles to anchor against larger defenders in pass protection, and will duck his head and dive at them instead of staying upright.


Here's Murray's:

STRENGTHS
Murray is tall with a muscular build. Possesses great burst and the top end speed to break the long one. Strong runner that consistently finishes runs and falls forward. Excellent receiver that can get big chunks of yards after the catch. Very capable blocker in pass protection.
WEAKNESSES
Does not have the vision to consistently find open lanes and looks to bounce the ball outside too soon. Runs a bit high and lacks the power to get the difficult yards between the tackles. Lacks the agility to always make the first man miss in the hole. Has struggled to stay on the field.

#2 - Don't put any faith in McFadden. He's a tease. He's been in the league 7 years and hasn't done squat.

 

[sureletsrace]

#1 - People forget out of college that he was an all-purpose back and was considered a workhorse.

Who does this remind you of?

STRENGTHS
Productive back in the running and passing game. Possesses enough straight-line speed to eat up yardage when open lanes present themselves. Shows once wiggle in his game once past the line, gets would-be tacklers to lean the wrong way. Seems to fall forward a lot, and is adding weight to his frame each season to get stronger. Attacks targets as a blocker for bubble screens and two-back sets, also flashes the form and willingness to be an effective pass protector. Solid receiver on screens and over the middle; good hands to rein in wayward passes and his shifty hips make him elusive after the catch. Solid ball security, did not fumble in 251 touches in 2011.
WEAKNESSES
Taller back who will run a bit upright at times coming through the line or in the open field. Receiver-like build makes pushing the pile a chore. One-speed back without an elite burst, second gear or great acceleration in the open field. Must learn to explode from cuts using improving strength in his lower half. Struggles to anchor against larger defenders in pass protection, and will duck his head and dive at them instead of staying upright.


Here's Murray's:

STRENGTHS
Murray is tall with a muscular build. Possesses great burst and the top end speed to break the long one. Strong runner that consistently finishes runs and falls forward. Excellent receiver that can get big chunks of yards after the catch. Very capable blocker in pass protection.
WEAKNESSES
Does not have the vision to consistently find open lanes and looks to bounce the ball outside too soon. Runs a bit high and lacks the power to get the difficult yards between the tackles. Lacks the agility to always make the first man miss in the hole. Has struggled to stay on the field.

#2 - Don't put any faith in McFadden. He's a tease. He's been in the league 7 years and hasn't done squat.

Interesting comparison.