My Thoughts on WR corps

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With whats going on this offseason involving this group its clear the team thinks Dak isnt the problem, but rather the WRs. They show this by going out and bringing in two WRs and releasing its "#1". I think this team knows it did itself in in trying to force feed Dez.

Dallas added Hurns who can play inside and outside who has had the success TW hasnt. And he probably replaces TW in the starying lineup. Then they added a guy in Thompson who will take Butlers place as the deep threat. Pure speed who most likely wont give much in the short to intermediate game, but come in and play the role Butler had.

That leaves the number 1. I think this is 2 players in this draft. Have to believe their first choice is Ridley, and their backup is Sutton. Would be ok with either of these picks too. With Ridley you have a guy who can play any spot inside and outside. He would allow the team to play that college type scheme they want to insert into their system by words of the jones'. With Sutton they get that posession WR who most likely will come off the field in them bunch sets they want to start running. With guys like Hurns, Thompson and beasley coming in with possibly TW as the 4th WR.

My preference would be Ridley because he stays on the field for any set. He gives you more options and is polished as a WR. You cant coach being a smart player, the player has to be willing to put in the time to do the little things. Something they just couldnt get Dez to do.

I think Dallas goes 6 deep at Wr this yr.

Calvin Ridley
Allen Hurns
Cole Beasley
Terrance Williams
Deonte Thompson
Ryan Switzer

Ridley and Thompson are really good route runners, Hurns and Beasley know how to find holes in the defense, TW makes really tough catches but not really much else. And Switzer is the return guy who i think narrowly beats out Noah Brown for the last Wr spot.

I think they will draft a Wr late in the draft. And again my preference would be a guy like Antonio Collaway. He's got some red flags in the character dept, but Dallas did bring him in for the visit. My guess is to see where his head is. But this kid has the talent if he were to get his head on right that would take this offense to another level. Him in the slot with Ridley and Hurns outside. Would be a scary thing for defenses. The question is can he get his head right? So far his past says no. Another guy i like is Jaleel Scott. He needs probably a yr to develop before he gets any real time. But there something intriguing about him in the later rounds.
 
With whats going on this offseason involving this group its clear the team thinks Dak isnt the problem, but rather the WRs. They show this by going out and bringing in two WRs and releasing its "#1". I think this team knows it did itself in in trying to force feed Dez.

Dallas added Hurns who can play inside and outside who has had the success TW hasnt. And he probably replaces TW in the starying lineup. Then they added a guy in Thompson who will take Butlers place as the deep threat. Pure speed who most likely wont give much in the short to intermediate game, but come in and play the role Butler had.

That leaves the number 1. I think this is 2 players in this draft. Have to believe their first choice is Ridley, and their backup is Sutton. Would be ok with either of these picks too. With Ridley you have a guy who can play any spot inside and outside. He would allow the team to play that college type scheme they want to insert into their system by words of the jones'. With Sutton they get that posession WR who most likely will come off the field in them bunch sets they want to start running. With guys like Hurns, Thompson and beasley coming in with possibly TW as the 4th WR.

My preference would be Ridley because he stays on the field for any set. He gives you more options and is polished as a WR. You cant coach being a smart player, the player has to be willing to put in the time to do the little things. Something they just couldnt get Dez to do.

I think Dallas goes 6 deep at Wr this yr.

Calvin Ridley
Allen Hurns
Cole Beasley
Terrance Williams
Deonte Thompson
Ryan Switzer

Ridley and Thompson are really good route runners, Hurns and Beasley know how to find holes in the defense, TW makes really tough catches but not really much else. And Switzer is the return guy who i think narrowly beats out Noah Brown for the last Wr spot.

I think they will draft a Wr late in the draft. And again my preference would be a guy like Antonio Collaway. He's got some red flags in the character dept, but Dallas did bring him in for the visit. My guess is to see where his head is. But this kid has the talent if he were to get his head on right that would take this offense to another level. Him in the slot with Ridley and Hurns outside. Would be a scary thing for defenses. The question is can he get his head right? So far his past says no. Another guy i like is Jaleel Scott. He needs probably a yr to develop before he gets any real time. But there something intriguing about him in the later rounds.
Remove Beasley and insert Noah Brown.

I quite honestly think Beasley's days are numbered here thanks to the newly created cap room which is going to go towards the acquisition of Earl Thomas.

Beasley & a pick are on the way to Seattle as soon as Stephen and Will are able to iron out the details. No higher than a 3rd rounder hopefully.
 
Remove Beasley and insert Noah Brown.

I quite honestly think Beasley's days are numbered here thanks to the newly created cap room which is going to go towards the acquisition of Earl Thomas.

Beasley & a pick are on the way to Seattle as soon as Stephen and Will are able to iron out the details. No higher than a 3rd rounder hopefully.

Sea has very little need for Beasley because Baldwin shifts inside to the slot for their 3wide sets and they just signed Jaron Brown. also got Lockett. If anything SEA needs a outside guy, Baldwin and Lockett who both are superior to Beasley are both 5'10
 
Remove Beasley and insert Noah Brown.

I quite honestly think Beasley's days are numbered here thanks to the newly created cap room which is going to go towards the acquisition of Earl Thomas.

Beasley & a pick are on the way to Seattle as soon as Stephen and Will are able to iron out the details. No higher than a 3rd rounder hopefully.
I think so as well. Beasley is the only one on the team that is a one trick pony. Noah will make the team as he is the best blocking receiver we have. He got a ton of snaps in run plays this past season.

Hurns is safe as we just signed him.
Brown and Switzer I think it's safe as well.
Thompson is the speed guy.

That leaves Beasley and Williams. It's possible both are going but I'm going to say Beasley for sure. Williams is gone if they get the right late round rookie
 
If Dallas wants Ridley we will most likely get desperate and need to trade away our 2nd to move up higher in the 1st.

If we sit and wait at 19 he will probably be gone and we will each reach for Sutton (who Jerry says will be a part timer) or we will trade down.
 
They brought in one WR that a couple teams had some interest only at a bargain price, and one that literally no one wanted. Yes I'm certain that's the recipe for improving the WR core.
Allen Hurns im sure ur talking about had 10 teams set up for visits per a interview he did.

Tell us about the decision and signing with the Cowboys.

I'm very excited. Choosing Dallas, felt like it was a great situation for me opportunity-wise. Other teams offered me more [money] but I felt like they [the Cowboys] have a great young team. I got along really well with the coaches. ... I feel like this opportunity is going to be the best for me.
 
Remove Beasley and insert Noah Brown.

I quite honestly think Beasley's days are numbered here thanks to the newly created cap room which is going to go towards the acquisition of Earl Thomas.

Beasley & a pick are on the way to Seattle as soon as Stephen and Will are able to iron out the details. No higher than a 3rd rounder hopefully.

Interesting, wery interesting. I remember a guy named Earl the pearl Munro. Played for the old NY Knickerbockers. Wouldn't mind seeing a younger version of earl the pearl here at all
 
If Dallas wants Ridley we will most likely get desperate and need to trade away our 2nd to move up higher in the 1st.

If we sit and wait at 19 he will probably be gone and we will each reach for Sutton (who Jerry says will be a part timer) or we will trade down.

Dallas had 2 teams in front of them who they needed to fear

Baltimore: who signed Crabtree and Brown so they probably go somewhere else now

Seattle: reports are they are looking to trade down and pick up some picks as they dont have a 2nd or a 3rd.

Dallas is in prime posistion to draft Ridley, and if he gets picked i think the pick will be Sutton. Unless by some chance Roquan is there but i dont see that happening.
 
Allen Hurns im sure ur talking about had 10 teams set up for visits per a interview he did.

Tell us about the decision and signing with the Cowboys.

I'm very excited. Choosing Dallas, felt like it was a great situation for me opportunity-wise. Other teams offered me more [money] but I felt like they [the Cowboys] have a great young team. I got along really well with the coaches. ... I feel like this opportunity is going to be the best for me.

I honesty don't care who was lining up. I don't believe it was many. Hurns was way down the depth chart on a poor WR group in Jacksonville, that should tell you enough. The guy was never overly impressive on the field. Is he suddenly going to be someone he's never been now?
 
I honesty don't care who was lining up. I don't believe it was many. Hurns was way down the depth chart on a poor WR group in Jacksonville, that should tell you enough. The guy was never overly impressive on the field. Is he suddenly going to be someone he's never been now?

Well he did have 1000 plus yards in 2015. If he was way down the depth chart and did that, imagine if he were on top of the depth chart. Holy, Dez was on top of the depth chart in 2017 and had 800 plus yards. Wonder if that's doable for a bottom of the depth chart guy who had 1000 plus yards. Yah, not likely right:rolleyes:
 
With whats going on this offseason involving this group its clear the team thinks Dak isnt the problem, but rather the WRs. They show this by going out and bringing in two WRs and releasing its "#1". I think this team knows it did itself in in trying to force feed Dez.

Dallas added Hurns who can play inside and outside who has had the success TW hasnt. And he probably replaces TW in the starying lineup. Then they added a guy in Thompson who will take Butlers place as the deep threat. Pure speed who most likely wont give much in the short to intermediate game, but come in and play the role Butler had.

That leaves the number 1. I think this is 2 players in this draft. Have to believe their first choice is Ridley, and their backup is Sutton. Would be ok with either of these picks too. With Ridley you have a guy who can play any spot inside and outside. He would allow the team to play that college type scheme they want to insert into their system by words of the jones'. With Sutton they get that posession WR who most likely will come off the field in them bunch sets they want to start running. With guys like Hurns, Thompson and beasley coming in with possibly TW as the 4th WR.

My preference would be Ridley because he stays on the field for any set. He gives you more options and is polished as a WR. You cant coach being a smart player, the player has to be willing to put in the time to do the little things. Something they just couldnt get Dez to do.

I think Dallas goes 6 deep at Wr this yr.

Calvin Ridley
Allen Hurns
Cole Beasley
Terrance Williams
Deonte Thompson
Ryan Switzer

Ridley and Thompson are really good route runners, Hurns and Beasley know how to find holes in the defense, TW makes really tough catches but not really much else. And Switzer is the return guy who i think narrowly beats out Noah Brown for the last Wr spot.

I think they will draft a Wr late in the draft. And again my preference would be a guy like Antonio Collaway. He's got some red flags in the character dept, but Dallas did bring him in for the visit. My guess is to see where his head is. But this kid has the talent if he were to get his head on right that would take this offense to another level. Him in the slot with Ridley and Hurns outside. Would be a scary thing for defenses. The question is can he get his head right? So far his past says no. Another guy i like is Jaleel Scott. He needs probably a yr to develop before he gets any real time. But there something intriguing about him in the later rounds.

Hurns will get #1 type snaps with everyone else splitting up the #2 and #3 snaps.

The draft pick might be the defacto #2 WR but they won't force feed a rookie.
 
Anyone know the exact nature of Terrence Williams foot injury? Is it similar to what Dez suffered? If Williams ability to cut and accelerate is affected, he’s cooked as a WR.
 
Remove Beasley and insert Noah Brown.

I quite honestly think Beasley's days are numbered here thanks to the newly created cap room which is going to go towards the acquisition of Earl Thomas.

Beasley & a pick are on the way to Seattle as soon as Stephen and Will are able to iron out the details. No higher than a 3rd rounder hopefully.

I stated the exactly same sentiments in another post. I can see Dallas trading Williams (the outside WR the OP suggested) and a 3rd for Earl Thomas. Thomas will instantly improve our safety position and bring a veteran presence to institute Kris Richards scheme. This is the only way Dallas can redeem themselves for letting Dez go.

And I also believe folks are sleeping on Noah Brown simply bc they haven’t seen anything from him at the Pro level. Yet at Ohio State, Brown was used similar to Dez. He also has similar size and traits. The reason he fell so far is bc he came out too early and was considered a project and raw. After a year on the practice squad and possibly imulating his game like Dez.. Dallas could have found a much cheaper player with ‘Dez-like’ strengths. Maybe I’m speculating too much here, but until he’s giving a chance.. I won’t throw dirt on him.

The truth of the matter is... Williams is a body catcher and Dez is still working on route running, neither could separate from good CBs. Beasley is the only WR that could which is why he was our best WR two years ago. Opponents figured that out and double team him, which is easy when he only runs 10-15 yards down field. Dallas intends to change the WRs to fit Dak’s strengths.. WRs with good route running and speed. That’s not a knock on Dak, he’s just not as accurate as Romo became late in his career.

I like DJ Moore, Ridley, Chark, and Miller.. in that order. I hope Dallas can land any of those four. Add our Run first mentality, Improved Defense with better LBs and Thomas.. Id consider this offseason a success.
 
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if Calvin Ridley is there at 19...he's the pick.
if not...it's wide-open.
they could wait and get a WR in the 2nd....doesnt feel that way but they could.
I like Sutton....love his size,physicality....but still not sure if he's a first or second rd'er.
I think the Ravens might swerve and go OL or LB.
what if Harold Landry is there...I think the Ravens would take him...which drops Ridley to us.
For awhile it has felt like Ridley....some how,some way...I think Calvin Ridley will end up a Cowboy.
 
They brought in one WR that a couple teams had some interest only at a bargain price, and one that literally no one wanted. Yes I'm certain that's the recipe for improving the WR core.

A decent WR corp made up of good WR's that can get open and exploit the soft parts of a defense is better than one single #1 receiver. How many titles did Detroit win with Calvin Johnson? Look at NE on the other hand, how many stud WR's did they have winning their titles? Fact is at the end of the day it's execution and route running trump pure raw physical ability.
 

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