My top 5 for the Cowboys on defense

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Mainly doing this for my own amusement on a slow day at work, but feel free to critique or post your own or both....I'm only going to use guys that I think Dallas has a realistic shot at and fit the scheme/ though so anybody I believe is a sure fire top 20 pick isn't going to be on the list.

DE
1. Alvin Dupree, Kentucky- Questionable whether he will last until 27 or not, but he is the best pure pass rusher outside of Ray and Gregory imo. Needs some coaching and a few extra pounds wouldn't hurt, but he has speed and burst you just can't teach.

2. Owamagbe Odighizuwa, UCLA- CBS has already moved him up as a 1st/2nd rounder and the 39th overall prospect and I believe he will continue to rise. High pedigree as a former highly recruited 5 star prospect who's college career didn't go quite as planned because of a hip injury that caused him to miss all of 2013. That obviously needs to be looked into, but not much else to dislike about him. Incredibly strong, quick off of the line, and has a great motor. Only knock on him is he lacks the hip flexibility to be a pure speed rusher that can dip and turn the corner.

3. Nate Orchard, Utah- A tad undersized but makes up for it with effort. Never stops moving and has the necessary athleticism to beat OT's around the edge. 2 qualities you don't often find in the same guy. Probably only a part time player to begin his career as a 4-3 DE, but would bring a much needed edge presence to this team.

4. Markus Golden, Mizzu- Arm length is a big issue here...may struggle to disengage against NFL OT's. But Golden does have a initial good fire off of the most of the time and has a great motor. A guy that will get by with a lot effort and above average athleticism, but probably not a guy that is going to rack up a bunch of sacks in the NFL imo.

5. Trey Flowers, Arkansas- Probably strictly a SDE but could make a good 1 imo. 270ish with long arms and plenty of strength. Knows how to get after the QB as well though and is surprisingly athletic for his size. Again, not going to be a speed guy who turn the corner consistently, but does everything else well.

DT
1. Michael Bennett, Ohio State- Best overall DT in the draft. Good combo of size and quicks. Holds his own in the run game and is a nightmare for interior lineman in the pass game. Marinelli would love this guy

2. Xavier Cooper, Washington St- Boy is this guy quick...I challenge anybody to watch this guy against Oregon and not be impressed. Great as shooting gaps and beating lineman off of the snap, also shows a good swim move and knows how to "get skinny". Needs to get a little stronger but that's an easy fix/

3. Malcom Brown, Texas- Big 1 tech with long arms and a ton of strength. More than just a stump in the middle though. Can move pretty well and get after the QB.

4. Eddie Goldman, FSU- I'm not as big of a fan of his as most. Not overly powerful or quick but decent at both. He would make a good 1 tech and has potential but I wouldn't go anywhere near him in the 1st where he is currently projected.

5. Gabe Wright, Auburn- 6'2 299 with nearly 33" arms and good quickness. Another guy Marinelli will definitely like. Tough and experienced guy coming from the SEC.

DL Honorable mention
Preston Smith, Miss St- He surprised me by only weighing 270 at the Senior Bowl. I thought he would be bigger and project better at 3 tech for us. Would still make a pretty good SDE, but I think he would be better at 285ish and be a Crawford type player.

LB
1. Paul Dawson, TCU- Smooth athlete who flows to the ball well because of great instincts. I have him as the best pass defending Lb in this draft. Could play either MLB or WLB for us.

2. Denzel Perryman, Miami- Perryman is going to have a long career in the NFL. He's a tackling machine who is always around the ball but also plenty versatile to drop back in coverage. Being only 5'11 is his biggest negative and close to the only 1.

3. Benardick McKinney, Miss St- If we ran a 3-4 he'd probably be the #1 LB, but he can struggle in space and coverage isn't his forte.

4. Eric Kendricks, UCLA- Flies all around the field and seems to almost always be in on the tackle. On the small side and concerns in the pass game hurt him. Extremely aggressive, but sometimes to a fault.

5. Kwon Alexander, LSU- LSU's leading tackler who appears to be plenty athletic. Not sure he's a guy who should have went pro, and him being ranked 5 is a testament to this being a weak 4-3 LB class.

CB
1. PJ Williams, FSU- Has the size and more than enough athleticism of a protoypical outside CB. Has gone up against some of the best competition and played great in some of the biggest games possible. Needs to work on some technique and use his hands less but all the makings of a great CB are ther.

2. D'Juan Smith, Florida Atlantic- I think if he plays at an SEC school instead of FAU we are talking about a definite 1st round pick. Extremely fluid athlete who flips his hips with ease and has plenty of straight line speed. Patient and smart defender who plays the ball well in the air. Slightly small also hurts his stock a little.

3. Quentin Rollins, Miami of Ohio- Former b-ball player who only turned to football after gaining an extra year of eligibility. You can tell he is a special athlete just by watching him and his hand eye coordination to play the ball in the air is great. Only 1 year of football experience means obvious technique work, but his potential is through the roof

4. Kevin Smith, Wake Forest- Good length and speed with 41 starts in college. Plays the ball very well in the air and is a smart CB. Can sometimes get caught being a little aggressive and has a slight build he needs to add weight to.

5. Alex Carter, Stanford- As usual a good smart football player coming out of the Stanford program. This 1 actually appears to have both the necessary speed and size to play in the NFL. Needs work on his hand technique because he'd draw a lot of penalties in the NFL with his current style, but a lot of potential with some good coaching.

S
1. Anthony Harris, Virginia- Tall, rangey CF'er with great ball skills. Best when left to roam single high and read the QB. Needs to add weight and learn how to wrap up better though. Would be a ideal in pass defense where we struggle with our safeties the most.

2. Cody Prewitt, Ole Miss- Has a big, well built frame...definitely looks the part of an NFL safety. Experience as a zone safety and shows a good understanding of how to play the position and recognize what the offense is trying to do. Because of his size and build I have questions about his flexibility and straight line speed. Can he flip his hips and run with NFL WR's?

3. Chris Hackett, TCU- Tall, lanky fluid athlete. Always flowing to the ball and is rarely away from the play. Versatile defender that played everywhere for TCU. Showed the ability to cover in the slot and play single high. Again, needs to add weight and learn how to tackle better. Tends to just throw his shoulders at the runners knees too much.

4. Gerod Holliman, Louisville- He's definitely a playmaker...1 int away from setting the ncaa record this year. Great at sitting back in a zone and reading and reacting to the ball in the air, good hands too. I personally have big questions about his ability to do anything else though. Didn't see him play much man and his tackling leaves A LOT to be desired....not just technique, takes a lot of bad angles.

5. Kurtis Drummond, Michigan St- Looks the part and would have + athleticism for the position....but he definitely scares me with how many poor angles he takes. Inconsistent would be my word for him. Looked great at times, and then the next quarter he would let up a huge play. There is talk of him being moved to CB and that makes a lot of sense to me.

S Honorable mention- Derron Smith, Fresno State- I'm honestly not sure what to make of him. Looked good his jr year...not so much his sr. Rumor is that he played through injury, but I can't comment on that. Looks short too. How he tests and measures at the combine will be big for him.
 

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The more I think about the more I am convinced that we would better served dropping out of the first and picking up a 2 and a 3rd.
 

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The more I think about the more I am convinced that we would better served dropping out of the first and picking up a 2 and a 3rd.

If the intention is to draft DL and more DL and eschew BPA, then yes, trading down into the second and getting additional choices is probably the way to go.
 

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TM are ypu sitting down because I have a shocker for you. I agree with everything you said except 1 spot. Of course the DE ranking. If you take you top 5 and put Orchard at 1 and Preston Smith at 3 and kick dupree ouy then we would be in full agreement.

But I like everything else you said.
 

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TM are ypu sitting down because I have a shocker for you. I agree with everything you said except 1 spot. Of course the DE ranking. If you take you top 5 and put Orchard at 1 and Preston Smith at 3 and kick dupree ouy then we would be in full agreement.

But I like everything else you said.

Lol definitely a shocker...I'm starting to come around on Orchard but his size is still an issue for me. 251 is small for a 4-3 DE no matter how you look at it. Still plenty of time though, he'll probably do a pro day around March so if he can get himself over 260 and perform well we'll be having serious discussions of him at 27.

And do you think Smith will make that good of a SDE in a 4-3? I'll have to go back and look at him. When I watched him I had 3 tech who occasionally played DE in mind. Him weighing 270 really threw me for a loop.
 

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If the intention is to draft DL and more DL and eschew BPA, then yes, trading down into the second and getting additional choices is probably the way to go.

If we get an extra 2nd and a 3rd then i am ok with anything even a safety or cornerback.
 

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Owamagbe Odighizuwa, UCLA

looked good today from what I saw at senior Bowl. Showed strength and speed
 

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I like an awful lot of what you did there and agree with most of it.

I like CB Kevin Johnson more than you do (you wrote Kevin Smith by mistake) and would put him higher on the list.

Also in the DE catagory, I like Za'Darius Smith more than Flowers. Primarily because he plays exactly like Garrett and Marinelli expect guys to. At 6-5 270, he would be ideal to start working in the rotation at SDE. Right now he is maybe a 3rd round guy. Here is a snippit of his positives from CBSSportsline:

Aggressive swat/swim moves with active hands to work off blockers and keep himself free. Improved eye use to locate and track quickly, rarely losing sight of the ball. Stays assignment sound and rarely take himself out of plays. Physical striker and reliable tackler, using his length to wrap and finish.

Only average speed, but terrific effort each snap and fights through the whistle. Fiery competitor and plays with a passionate demeanor, always fired up.

The whole write-up is here: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/2061139/zadarius-smith

Smith did well at the east-west shrine game and I'm interested to see how he does in the Sr. Bowl.
 

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I like an awful lot of what you did there and agree with most of it.

I like CB Kevin Johnson more than you do (you wrote Kevin Smith by mistake) and would put him higher on the list.

Also in the DE catagory, I like Za'Darius Smith more than Flowers. Primarily because he plays exactly like Garrett and Marinelli expect guys to. At 6-5 270, he would be ideal to start working in the rotation at SDE. Right now he is maybe a 3rd round guy. Here is a snippit of his positives from CBSSportsline:



The whole write-up is here: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/2061139/zadarius-smith

Smith did well at the east-west shrine game and I'm interested to see how he does in the Sr. Bowl.

I'll be honest and say that I haven't watched much of Za'Darius Smith but from what I've seen I'm not sold on his strength. He has that tall, kinda lanky, frame that is going to make it tough for him play with strength and leverage at the point of attack. I'll definitely have to watch him a little more though as he is getting a good amount of buzz that I didn't expect.
 

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Have you seen his tape against USC? If not you'll love him. Kid is a beast.

I haven't, Ill check it out.

Zadarius Smith has looked pretty good again today, although at Shrine game he looked slow off the line at times (Yes I know he made some plays). Henry Anderson out of Stanford has impressed me once again. He has gotten the best of everyone he has faced the past two days, good speed and power.
 

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tm1119....nice list!

DE:
Not as high on Double O from UCLA as some..he may still be growing but his injury history bothers me a bit. I'm good with Dupree at #1 but would put Orchard at #2 and Golden at #3. Also, I like Calhoun from Michigan St. more than most and believe he will rise after the Combine.

DT:
This position I am viewing differently because Dallas appears to have it's 3tech in T. Crawford. I also think the DE position is not as strong late in the draft as it is in free agency so I think Dallas would be wise (if the price is right) to sign Hardy or JPP to add to the DL.
With that said, I think the DL value at #27 would be the 1tech....Eddie Goldman is my #1 and Malcolm Brown #2 (if N. Shelton were to drop to #27 he is my #1 but that won't happen). Not one that thinks the 1tech isn't worth a first rounder once you have the other pieces in place (DE, WLB and 3tech). No way Dallas or anyone on this site wouldn't take a young Haloti Ngata, Star Lotulelei, or a young Vince Wilfork to go with T. Crawford, Hardy/JPP, and D. Lawrence as starters. With Mincey, a 3rd round rookie DE, Josh Brent, T. McClain, maybe Gardner, Bishop, as rotation players.

The other positions are well put together although I may switch a ranking here or there. Good stuff!
 
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I'll be honest and say that I haven't watched much of Za'Darius Smith but from what I've seen I'm not sold on his strength. He has that tall, kinda lanky, frame that is going to make it tough for him play with strength and leverage at the point of attack. I'll definitely have to watch him a little more though as he is getting a good amount of buzz that I didn't expect.
I thought he showed some power. There's something I like about him. He's not the smoothest athlete, but he's seems to have a feel for pass rushing and playing with technique/leverage against the run.
 

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tm1119....nice list!

DE:
Not as high on Double O from UCLA as some..he may still be growing but his injury history bothers me a bit. I'm good with Dupree at #1 but would put Orchard at #2 and Golden at #3. Also, I like Calhoun from Michigan St. more than most and believe he will rise after the Combine.

DT:
This position I am viewing differently because Dallas appears to have it's 3tech in T. Crawford. I also think the DE position is not as strong late in the draft as it is in free agency so I think Dallas would be wise (if the price is right) to sign Hardy or JPP to add to the DL.
With that said, I think the DL value at #27 would be the 1tech....Eddie Goldman is my #1 and Malcolm Brown #2 (if N. Shelton were to drop to #27 he is my #1 but that won't happen). Not one that thinks the 1tech isn't worth a first rounder once you have the other pieces in place (DE, WLB and 3tech). No way Dallas or anyone on this site wouldn't take a young Haloti Ngata, Star Lotulelei, or a young Vince Wilfork to go with T. Crawford, Hardy/JPP, and D. Lawrence as starters. With Mincey, a 3rd round rookie DE, Josh Brent, T. McClain, maybe Gardner, Bishop, as rotation players.

The other positions are well put together although I may switch a ranking here or there. Good stuff!

Thanks..Idk, just don't see it with Goldman like you. I can see him being an above average player in the league, but just don't see anything special.

Calhoun went back to school by the way
 

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Thanks..Idk, just don't see it with Goldman like you. I can see him being an above average player in the league, but just don't see anything special.

Calhoun went back to school by the way

Thanks..Idk, just don't see it with Goldman like you. I can see him being an above average player in the league, but just don't see anything special.

Calhoun went back to school by the way

Thanks! Didn't realize he went back...makes sense. He definitely didn't have the season he was expected to have.
 

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I'll be honest and say that I haven't watched much of Za'Darius Smith but from what I've seen I'm not sold on his strength. He has that tall, kinda lanky, frame that is going to make it tough for him play with strength and leverage at the point of attack. I'll definitely have to watch him a little more though as he is getting a good amount of buzz that I didn't expect.

That buzz is based off of the East-West practices, which honestly is a way lower level than the Senior Bowl. This week, he's been very quiet.
 
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