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Sonny Koufax

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I was listening to Mickey earlier, and he makes it sound like we don't have the money to do much, plus we can cut/trade players like Glenn or Carpenter because of the cap hit.
So here's what I think we're going to do.
1. I think we sign Javon Walker and then we won't draft a wr early. I think Jerry and the staff think (hope) Stanback will be something.
2. As far as rb, I think we'll pick one up in the second, third or fourth rounds because Jerry thinks he can pull out another Barber. And we probably sign Dunn or Bell.
3. We saw most of the FA CBs go off the board at a very high price, so we got shut out. But maybe we'' sign a Brian Kelly or a Fernado Bryant if they don't cost so much.
As far as the draft, this is what I'd like to see.

1. (#22) DRC/Talib/Jenkins or Cason
1. (#28) which ever of the above falls.
2. Ray Rice RB
3. Owen Schmidt/Jacob Hester FBs
4. Robert Felton G
5. Tom Zbikowski S
6.Matt Flynn QB
7. Best Available

Again, I don't think Jerry wants to draft a WR (I would) and a first round RB isn't necessary. I think if we could get two of the top corners, it could set our secondary up for this year, and many years to come. (Much like the Eagles did with a #1 and a #2 a few years ago)
I think Rice will be a good pro, and either fullback would add something to the offense (Schmidt will his blocking and Hester catching out of the backfield) and both would be huge special team players. Which will be needed with some of our losses (Keith Davis)
Felton is depth at guard and Zbikowski might return punts, but would certaily be a special teams demon.
I'm a LSU guy, and I would like to see us develope a young quarterback ( I hated letting Matt Moore go last year). Flynn is a Texan, and a winner so I think he could develope into a good #2.
What do you think? I'm ready to be ripped.
 

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Sonny Koufax;1984581 said:
I was listening to Mickey earlier, and he makes it sound like we don't have the money to do much, plus we can cut/trade players like Glenn or Carpenter because of the cap hit.
So here's what I think we're going to do.
1. I think we sign Javon Walker and then we won't draft a wr early. I think Jerry and the staff think (hope) Stanback will be something.
2. As far as rb, I think we'll pick one up in the second, third or fourth rounds because Jerry thinks he can pull out another Barber. And we probably sign Dunn or Bell.
3. We saw most of the FA CBs go off the board at a very high price, so we got shut out. But maybe we'' sign a Brian Kelly or a Fernado Bryant if they don't cost so much.
As far as the draft, this is what I'd like to see.

1. (#22) DRC/Talib/Jenkins or Cason
1. (#28) which ever of the above falls.
2. Ray Rice RB
3. Owen Schmidt/Jacob Hester FBs
4. Robert Felton G
5. Tom Zbikowski S
6.Matt Flynn QB
7. Best Available

Again, I don't think Jerry wants to draft a WR (I would) and a first round RB isn't necessary. I think if we could get two of the top corners, it could set our secondary up for this year, and many years to come. (Much like the Eagles did with a #1 and a #2 a few years ago)
I think Rice will be a good pro, and either fullback would add something to the offense (Schmidt will his blocking and Hester catching out of the backfield) and both would be huge special team players. Which will be needed with some of our losses (Keith Davis)
Felton is depth at guard and Zbikowski might return punts, but would certaily be a special teams demon.
I'm a LSU guy, and I would like to see us develope a young quarterback ( I hated letting Matt Moore go last year). Flynn is a Texan, and a winner so I think he could develope into a good #2.
What do you think? I'm ready to be ripped.

Have you been peaking at my Madden drafts? lol
 

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That would be a dream draft - but you might want to dream again, because Rice at our pick in the second is extremely unlikely, unless we trade up.
 

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you forget we will have 4 1st because we wont match Cantys and Barber deals and 2 3rds......
 

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I would take a WR in the 3rd round and take the fullback in Round 4. Taking a fullback in Round 3 would be a major reach in my opinion.
 

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Very nice draft, except I wouldn't pick a FB in the third. Especially not with a young one already. Good stuff besides that. 4/5 stars.
 

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While I really like the idea of 2 cornerbacks in the first round, I still feel we need to draft a WR in the 1st. With the age of our receivers and the health issues with Walker, we need a good young WR that can work into the lineup.

This is my draft at this point

1st- Limas Sweed (Texas-WR) / Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie (Tenn St)
1st- Antoine Cason (Arizona-CB) / Devin Thomas (Mich St-WR)
2nd - Jamaal Charles (Texas-RB)
3rd - Josh Barrett (Ariz St-SS)
4th- Frank Okam (Texas-NT) / Owen Schmidt (W Vir-FB)
5th- Dwight Lowery (San Jose State-CB)
6th- Fernando Velasco (Georgia-C)
7th- NT / FB
 

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jerry said he wants to recreate what he helped create in the early 90s. that means he will trade with oakland to draft mcfadden to complete the triplets 2.0
 

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I agree with no WR in round 1. This is just a thin, thin draft at WR and I don't want to see us reach for one in round 1.

We don't need a FB (Cricket) and I don't think Rice would make it to our pick in round 2, although I'd LOVE to get him there.

I can see us going corner, corner, RB with our first 3 picks... I can also see us going corner, RB, corner or RB, corner, corner. Any of those would be fine.

It's a very deep draft for CB and RB and I'd like to see us go that route to get value.
 

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Rampage;1984610 said:
jerry said he wants to tecreate what he helped create in the early 90s. that means he will trade with oakland to draft mcfadden to complete the triplets 2.0
No, fortunately, that isn't what it means. Not by a long shot.
 

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AsthmaField;1984617 said:
I agree with no WR in round 1. This is just a thin, thin draft at WR and I don't want to see us reach for one in round 1.

We don't need a FB (Cricket) and I don't think Rice would make it to our pick in round 2, although I'd LOVE to get him there.

I can see us going corner, corner, RB with our first 3 picks... I can also see us going corner, RB, corner or RB, corner, corner. Any of those would be fine.

It's a very deep draft for CB and RB and I'd like to see us go that route to get value.

Never understood this line of thinking.

You say it's a thin, thin draft at WR (and it is, not arguing that point)...so we shouldn't take one in round 1.

Now everyone knows it's a thick, thick draft at RB....and you have us possibly taking one in round one.

Wouldn't it be more sensible to take one of the few good WRs available (given that they are 1st round talent)...therefore exhausting that short list...and then taking one of the several good to above average RBs later...when they'll still be available?

Just how I've always seen it anyway.
 

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I wouldn't mind drafting 2 CBs in the first and then trading up for Rice in the 2nd.
 

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I can't even begin to understand fans who think we should take 2 CBs in the first round.

We have no up and coming young WR or interior O-lineman, and only one running back. I don't deny the need for a CB, but we desperately need an infusion of youth on the offensive side as well.

The only way you consider taking 2 CBs in round one is if you think you're getting unbelievable value, and I don't see that sort of value.
 

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jackrussell;1984642 said:
Never understood this line of thinking.

You say it's a thin, thin draft at WR (and it is, not arguing that point)...so we shouldn't take one in round 1.

Now everyone knows it's a thick, thick draft at RB....and you have us possibly taking one in round one.

Wouldn't it be more sensible to take one of the few good WRs available (given that they are 1st round talent)...therefore exhausting that short list...and then taking one of the several good to above average RBs later...when they'll still be available?

Just how I've always seen it anyway.
I get what you're saying... But if one group is really that much stronger than another -- like in this case -- the 3rd best RB might be a much better overall player than the best WR. And you want to take the best player, not draft for need at some certain position I think that's what he meant.

As for two corners in the first round... Please no. CB is my favorite position, but that's overkill. Just get some decent journeyman type to go with the rook, and that plus Ball will be plenty.
 

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Double Trouble;1984653 said:
I can't even begin to understand fans who think we should take 2 CBs in the first round.

We have no up and coming young WR or interior O-lineman, and only one running back. I don't deny the need for a CB, but we desperately need an infusion of youth on the offensive side as well.

The only way you consider taking 2 CBs in round one is if you think you're getting unbelievable value, and I don't see that sort of value.

1. There is an increasing number of pass happy teams.

2. We have no real CB depth after our starters

3. One of our starters has a history of nagging injuries that hold him out for extended amounts of time.

4. Our ProBowl corner was fighting an injury all year last year.

5. Both of our starters are getting up in their 30's.

I could definitely see a scenario where we take two CB's in the first. however, you make good points, we do have other needs that need to be addressed too.
 

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adamknite;1984659 said:
1. There is an increasing number of pass happy teams.

2. We have no real CB depth after our starters

3. One of our starters has a history of nagging injuries that hold him out for extended amounts of time.

4. Our ProBowl corner was fighting an injury all year last year.

5. Both of our starters are getting up in their 30's.

I could definitely see a scenario where we take two CB's in the first. however, you make good points, we do have other needs that need to be addressed too.
1. There is an increasing need for WRs to keep up with those same pass-happy teams. We need CBs, but throwing all your picks at one position?

2. We have no legitimate playmaking WR after TO. We have TO, and injured Glenn, and a bunch of JAGs. Even if they sign the frequently hobbled Walker, I think they have to get a young guy who can play. Personally, I love the top 4 or 5 WRs, sans Jackson.

3. Agreed. We can't ignore the CB position. I just think that we leave too many weaknesses otherwise to saturate our draft with CBs.

4. Our stud WR has been injured each of the last 2 seasons, and his limited play in the playoff game might've been the difference. We need a young guy who might have the potential to not only compliment him, but eventually replace him.

5. Newman is 29. He'll be 30 in 6 months, but that's hardly getting up into his 30s. The few games he missed at the first of last season were the first of his career. TO is 34, Glenn is thirty-whatever, and no one else on the roster even causes the slightest anxiety for opposing CBs.
 

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I would not take 3 guys from UT in one draft nor would I bother with Matt Flynn.
 

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Double Trouble;1984679 said:
1. There is an increasing need for WRs to keep up with those same pass-happy teams. We need CBs, but throwing all your picks at one position?

2. We have no legitimate playmaking WR after TO. We have TO, and injured Glenn, and a bunch of JAGs. Even if they sign the frequently hobbled Walker, I think they have to get a young guy who can play. Personally, I love the top 4 or 5 WRs, sans Jackson.

3. Agreed. We can't ignore the CB position. I just think that we leave too many weaknesses otherwise to saturate our draft with CBs.

4. Our stud WR has been injured each of the last 2 seasons, and his limited play in the playoff game might've been the difference. We need a young guy who might have the potential to not only compliment him, but eventually replace him.

5. Newman is 29. He'll be 30 in 6 months, but that's hardly getting up into his 30s. The few games he missed at the first of last season were the first of his career. TO is 34, Glenn is thirty-whatever, and no one else on the roster even causes the slightest anxiety for opposing CBs.

lolZ, i was just giving you the reason as to why (you said you didn't understand the thinking). I even agreed, We have other issues that we need to take care of.
 

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I would like a young wr early, but I don't think Jerry will. Remember earlier when Wade he didn't think we'd take a wr in the first round? Also, after Stanback's redshirt year I think, they think he'll make a move.
I think our CB problem is greater than our wr problem.
 

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Sonny Koufax;1984716 said:
I would like a young wr early, but I don't think Jerry will. Remember earlier when Wade he didn't think we'd take a wr in the first round? Also, after Stanback's redshirt year I think, they think he'll make a move.
I think our CB problem is greater than our wr problem.

True, but our 'WR problem' is certainly bigger than any 'FB problem'.
 
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