My two cents...

You can make an argument for anything. That is fact.


All I know is that we are coming up on 20 years of no SB.

Man, the next 5 years will fly and we will look at the Wade era as, well, an error.
 
bbgun;3583564 said:
Kinda like ChldsPlay telling what to think about films. Pretty sure you'd balk.
Or Sacamano giving dating advice.
 
STAR GAZER;3583497 said:
I understand as much or more than most, how passionate Cowboys fans can be about their beloved team. After all, I am one of them.

So with that said, I cant help but feel the need to try and discourage all the finger pointing and name calling that's been directed at the entities who are associated with our teams organization. These people bleed blue and silver more than you or I.

We have lost two games out of the gate. We began the season with critical injuries in an area of concern that was our weakest link. So it doesn't surprise me and it shouldn't surprise you that we are off to a poor start.

Keep in mind that the media you depend on for insight is motivated to guide you to the edge of the nearest cliff and convince you it's time to jump. So, don't by into the hype. We are going to be fine.

Calling for the heads of our coaching staff when the going gets tough is a knee jerk reaction to a problem that is equally shared by many throughout the organization. It's not simply their doing.

A good team member supports his teammates. A good fan supports his fan base. So I am hoping that we can try and support our team when the going gets tough and stop throwing the coaching staff under the bus.

I know they have made their fare share of mistakes, but so have many throughout the organization as well as the players.

I'm proud of Wade for taking all the blame when it isnt his. I proud of the players who take the blame when it isn't all on them. So stop playing the blame game. And get behind your team.

If your not happy with the coaching staff fine. But stop calling for their heads. Now is the time to get behind your team and support them so that they can put their best feet forward.

When the end of the season comes, there will be time to sort out what needs to be done if anything. Jerry is not going to throw a monkey wrench into this machine even if it isn't well oiled.


Are you trying to say in a real simple sentence, the coaches sat there with the information in their face, even if it wasnt, any blog would tell them, FOR FREE, that the offensive line is the weakest link, THAN by some pure genius they say "lets run with the same line, BUT we;ll replace the second most penalized player with the first most penalized player and we DID an upgrade"?

Is that what you are trying to say in english on a board that can someone construde the english language and you're telling us we shouldnt look at them and say someone has to take blame for this.

Even the media who doesnt have a clue, has finally, FINALLY got around to understanding the lines are the most important, *after failing at ever other aspect* and that Jerry and the coaches all have this information, the net has this information, and conspiracy theorists have this information and when that offensive line got injured and IT DID even BEFORE the season, this was the best they could do with a whole off season.

Wow. just wow.

I dont know if I should cry or wait til after someone tosses a bomb on you, after announcing they were going to and finding you were still shocked that a bomb was dropped on you.

No sir you are wrong, that blame falls on Jason Garret and down.

Jerry Jones made it Clear in TWO languages that Wade does the defense, and Garrett does the offense, which side is really lacking? Jason all the way down to anyone but Ray Sherman who is the only one to get a free pass.
 
So if a SuperBowl favorite with a loaded roster starts the season out 0-2 and looks like the Bad News Bears........


We are not real fans and we are not supporting the team by voicing our displeasure???


Sorry, but I just dont agree with this at all. Maybe the most outspoken critic is actually one of the biggest fans that there is. Maybe that fan cant stand how the team is playing and wants changes.


If the coaching staff doesnt like negative comments, then maybe they should get the team to play a little better. Like I said, when you look like the Bad News Bears on a weekly basis, you are going to get roasted if you are in charge.


Like the saying goes, "There is winning and there is not winning".
 
ShiningStar;3583587 said:
Are you trying to say in a real simple sentence, the coaches sat there with the information in their face, even if it wasnt, any blog would tell them, FOR FREE, that the offensive line is the weakest link, THAN by some pure genius they say "lets run with the same line, BUT we;ll replace the second most penalized player with the first most penalized player and we DID an upgrade"?

Is that what you are trying to say in english on a board that can someone construde the english language and you're telling us we shouldnt look at them and say someone has to take blame for this.

Even the media who doesnt have a clue, has finally, FINALLY got around to understanding the lines are the most important, *after failing at ever other aspect* and that Jerry and the coaches all have this information, the net has this information, and conspiracy theorists have this information and when that offensive line got injured and IT DID even BEFORE the season, this was the best they could do with a whole off season.

Wow. just wow.

I dont know if I should cry or wait til after someone tosses a bomb on you, after announcing they were going to and finding you were still shocked that a bomb was dropped on you.

No sir you are wrong, that blame falls on Jason Garret and down.

Jerry Jones made it Clear in TWO languages that Wade does the defense, and Garrett does the offense, which side is really lacking? Jason all the way down to anyone but Ray Sherman who is the only one to get a free pass.

What's with all the bomb non-sense. And the wow just wow.

Yes the offensive line is what I believe to be our biggest issue. Does that fall solely on our coaching staff? I don't think so. So the calling for the coaches to be replaced is just a simple solution to something much more complex.

We can continue the revolving door with the coaching staff, but that isn't going to solve the bigger issue. As a matter of fact it will be two steps back in hopes that we can take several steps forward. And I'm not convinced that we will be taking several steps forward by doing so. I am certain that there is more to our ills. Dramatic measures like replacing the coaches isnt going to correct things.
 
Beast_from_East;3583617 said:
So if a SuperBowl favorite with a loaded roster starts the season out 0-2 and looks like the Bad News Bears........


We are not real fans and we are not supporting the team by voicing our displeasure???


Sorry, but I just dont agree with this at all. Maybe the most outspoken critic is actually one of the biggest fans that there is. Maybe that fan cant stand how the team is playing and wants changes.


If the coaching staff doesnt like negative comments, then maybe they should get the team to play a little better. Like I said, when you look like the Bad News Bears on a weekly basis, you are going to get roasted if you are in charge.


Like the saying goes, "There is winning and there is not winning".

Nothing wrong with "roasting the coaches" (a little) or being disappointed.

Some people simply need to back away from the edge of the cliff and stop overreacting by calling for a dramatic restructuring of our team after an 0-2 start.
 
Beast_from_East;3583617 said:
So if a SuperBowl favorite with a loaded roster starts the season out 0-2 and looks like the Bad News Bears........


We are not real fans and we are not supporting the team by voicing our displeasure???

Now you're getting it. :rolleyes:
 
STAR GAZER;3583497 said:
Keep in mind that the media you depend on for insight is motivated to guide you to the edge of the nearest cliff and convince you it's time to jump. So, don't by into the hype. We are going to be fine.

The team looks bad. That's not media hype. That's reality.

The team also has enough time to turn it around. I'm not liking their chances for a first round bye and home field advantage, but they still have time to make the playoffs.

STAR GAZER;3583497 said:
Calling for the heads of our coaching staff when the going gets tough is a knee jerk reaction to a problem that is equally shared by many throughout the organization. It's not simply their doing.

I don't see it that way.

Part of Garrett's job is to get the offense ready to play. They weren't and haven't been so far. There is no rhythm. There is plenty of talent on this team, but Garrett attempts to do too much with too many players out of too many formations.

Even the 1992 Dallas offense would have struggled under the constant chaos that Garrett introduces.

STAR GAZER;3583497 said:
A good team member supports his teammates. A good fan supports his fan base. So I am hoping that we can try and support our team when the going gets tough and stop throwing the coaching staff under the bus.

This is the wrong time to fire coordinators, but there is no harm in calling them out.

There is a difference between holding someone accountable and throwing them under a bus. Garrett is not a scapegoat. He's the guy who is in charge of an offense that has no rhythm.

I hope Garrett turns it around. But I'm doubtful.

I think there is a great chance that the offense will get hot, maybe even red hot, for a while.

But Garrett's system has too many moving parts to reliably produce for extended periods of time. It's like an old Italian race car; it's thing of beauty during those moments when everything is working, but it is prone to breakdowns and is unreliable over time.

STAR GAZER;3583497 said:
If your not happy with the coaching staff fine. But stop calling for their heads. Now is the time to get behind your team and support them so that they can put their best feet forward.

I saw enough of Campo to know that he wasn't a quality head coach.

I'm getting there with Garrett as an offensive coordinator. He's close to being outstanding, but he has a key weakness - he doesn't fully appreciate the costs of complexity and discontinuity. And he's so convinced in his own approach that he appears unwilling to make the changes that would improve his system.

So, I'm not feeling it. There's nothing wrong with saying so, either.
 
STAR GAZER;3583668 said:
What's with all the bomb non-sense. And the wow just wow.

Yes the offensive line is what I believe to be our biggest issue. Does that fall solely on our coaching staff? I don't think so. So the calling for the coaches to be replaced is just a simple solution to something much more complex.

We can continue the revolving door with the coaching staff, but that isn't going to solve the bigger issue. As a matter of fact it will be two steps back in hopes that we can take several steps forward. And I'm not convinced that we will be taking several steps forward by doing so. I am certain that there is more to our ills. Dramatic measures like replacing the coaches isnt going to correct things.


you have to move the coaches, the players didnt forget how to play football. Its when the coaches say "I got a better idea" and it turns out to not be a better idea.

its the coaches who decided to replace the second most penalized player with the number 1 most penalized player THINKING that was the better way to go.

It is on Houck and Garrett to get that line ready and both failed miserably. Both relied on the fact there will be on injuries and thats plan stupid.

Now i dont know who screwed up the draft, but someone explain to me how our dire need is the offensive line and we get a LB!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Come on, scouting, special teams, offense, *cept Ray Sherman and NO we are not promoting him* and most of the defense have got to go.

If you can sit there and watch the first drive of the season of the first game and see how that offense was clicking until Garrett says "Lets go with the play that never works" And it didnt , and screw up that offense and tell me THATS the guy you want to keep, BALONEY.

And than to sit there and tell us we cant call out the coaches, no way no how NOT EVER.
 
Beast_from_East;3583617 said:
So if a SuperBowl favorite with a loaded roster starts the season out 0-2 and looks like the Bad News Bears........


We are not real fans and we are not supporting the team by voicing our displeasure???


Sorry, but I just dont agree with this at all. Maybe the most outspoken critic is actually one of the biggest fans that there is. Maybe that fan cant stand how the team is playing and wants changes.


If the coaching staff doesnt like negative comments, then maybe they should get the team to play a little better. Like I said, when you look like the Bad News Bears on a weekly basis, you are going to get roasted if you are in charge.


Like the saying goes, "There is winning and there is not winning".

you're not allowed to have your own opinions here boy! you child!:rolleyes:
 
I agree it's too early to call for firings but they are on notice. Garrett's system has failed since the latter part of 2007.
 
ShiningStar;3583858 said:
Now i dont know who screwed up the draft, but someone explain to me how our dire need is the offensive line and we get a LB!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now this is my beef. I have been calling for an OL candidate for three years now. That has little to do with the coaching staff. I believe it's the one major problem that has everyone wanting to dismantle our coaching staff.

If they were playing up to par we would be 2-0 or at least 1-1. The fact that were 0-2 has too many people making ridiculous comments like Wade couldn't hold Shanahan's jockstrap. Or do you think we could bring Jimmy back?

One of the comments I read today said "Bench Romo". I mean when does this non-sense ever end?
 
I agree, it is not time to panic yet.

However, it is interesting that before the season started it was:

"It's just the Preseason".

Now with the 0-2 start, the mantra seems to be:

"We're better then our 0-2 record".

I certainly hope so.
 
STAR GAZER;3583941 said:
Now this is my beef. I have been calling for an OL candidate for three years now. That has little to do with the coaching staff. I believe it's the one major problem that has everyone wanting to dismantle our coaching staff.

If they were playing up to par we would be 2-0 or at least 1-1. The fact that were 0-2 has too many people making ridiculous comments like Wade couldn't hold Shanahan's jockstrap. Or do you think we could bring Jimmy back?

One of the comments I read today said "Bench Romo". I mean when does this non-sense ever end?


Okay i will meet you part way and say yes those comments are stupid. But we should at least be 1-1 if Chicago playes their game and makes their changes faster than we do. I can live with that, but the Skins bringing in new coaches, changing defenses, and still can beat us. No way.

Now I ask you, is the running game getting us no where, why isnt Peete either having more say, or being pointed at? I dont think our runners forgot how to run.

I think it falls on Garrett to tell Choice, either wait for an injury or dont hold your breathe, I got two runners we have to get a rythym for and 3 is way to many. But that didnt happen.

Garrett has got to be all over his brother, okay you lost John, get another TE and make him solid. No they spent time going after Rucker, now see who we pulled up. We should have concentrated more on a FB and got someone ready sooner and plays to help.

Our whole WR is being underused and Roy is playing well. This helps Sherman but again, that first drive against the Skins that offense looked primed to go, and Garrett screws it up. Why is he still trying to call a play that never works, in the hopes that it does? No.

If your talent doesnt match your scheme, get your scheme to match the talent. There is no reason for Romo to have his stats, and the wins to match. Austin is doing his part, Roy is doing his part, Dez is doing his part. Wade Wilson and Garrett should be salavating at the mouth over this WR corp.

Our whole Oline is a mess. Its not, check the Giants Oline and go back to last year when they had 1 innjury and didnt lose a beat with the back up. Enough said, they can do it we can do it.

Want something scary on the defense, when an opposing team gets an injury does Wade go after it like a rabid wolverine, no he down plays to the team instead of making that team bleed.

This year he has Ware moving more often, but its got to understand how to sack a Qb and to many times i am watching Spencer or Ware pass a qb. Wheres Butler. Get something moving get something rotating.


Its time our coaches were called out and done in front of the media. If you cant handle to do it in the house and NO one is, do it at the camera and bring it to the public who screams the loudest.
 
It seems that, residing unspoken in all these threads that presume to tell others how they should be conducting themselves, there is a notion that fans are never justified in being negative towards their team.

This is a fine opinion to have...but not everyone shares it. I suggest you try to understand that.
 
ScipioCowboy;3584235 said:
It seems that, residing unspoken in all these threads that presume to tell others how they should be conducting themselves, there is a notion that fans are never justified in being negative towards their team.

This is a fine opinion to have...but not everyone shares it. I suggest you try to understand that.

Not sure where you're seeing that. There's a huge divide between 'fans are never justified' and 'fans of this team aren't currently justified.' This is a team and a management that's made a real commitment to delivering for the fans, and they don't deserve the dramatic flip-flopping of support they've gotten after two lousy games.

And I don't get the reaction to people telling other people how they should conduct themselves. Why shouldn't someone say something when they see somebody conducting themselves poorly? I'm no anarchist. I believe there's a right and a wrong way to behave. I've got a right to say so, don't I? If I see fans of my favorite team embarrassing the organization and giving a horrible impression of our fanbase, I've got a right to say something, don't I? Or is it even an obligation to say something? We shout down trolls, don't we? And I don't see anybody defending the trolls rights to their own opinions.

Either way, until the behavior proscribed, I'll engage in it. And if it ever is proscribed, I'll be unlikely to stick around very long because this place would get very boring, very quickly.
 
despite the injuries we should be 2-0. But for stupid mistakes and penalties by the players and screwups by the coaching staff. They are all to blame.
 
Idgit;3584307 said:
management that's made a real commitment to delivering for the fans






These are placed around the fans neck like a dead albatross, enjoy the smell.


Jerry Jones controlls the Draft.

Jerry Jones is the undisputed leader of this team.

Jerry Jones signs all of the pay checks.

Jerry Jones makes all of the Coaching hires.

Jerry Jones greatest accomplishment is his new stadium.

Jerry Jones has the final say on all of the player personel decisions.

Jerry Jones is the face of this franchise.



The truth is that when Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys make a real commitment to delivering for the fans the Cowboys will have sane chain of command.
 
Question: Why are people so worried about what other people are thinking?

If you don't like someone blaming someone else, don't listen to them.

Secondly, who are you to say A. is more of a fan than B. if you don't actually know that person? You don't, yet you just said you did.

This is like complaining about complainers. You become part of the problem by complaining.
 

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