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My WAY too early draft target

Discussion in 'Draft Zone' started by Hardline, May 23, 2020 at 7:31 PM.

  1. Hardline

    Hardline Well-Known Member

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    Caden Sterns
    Safety
    Texas Longhorns

     
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  2. TWOK11

    TWOK11 Well-Known Member

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    Generally speaking, I don’t like drafting defensive players from the Big XII.
     
  3. Hardline

    Hardline Well-Known Member

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    I do if they are worth the pick at the slot we are picking at.
    Despite what some people think, The Big 12 does play defense.
     
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  4. Hardline

    Hardline Well-Known Member

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    23. Kenneth Murray, LB (Oklahoma), Los Angeles Chargers
    27. Jordyn Brooks, LB (Texas Tech), Seattle Seahawks
    31. Jeff Gladney, CB (TCU), Minnesota Vikings
     
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  5. Ranching

    Ranching Well-Known Member

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    I know a third grade running back that we need to keep an eye on...
     
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  6. Hardline

    Hardline Well-Known Member

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    Keep us informed.
     
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  7. Hardline

    Hardline Well-Known Member

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    I probably shouldn't have posted this.
    As it is WAY too early.
     
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  8. cowboyec

    cowboyec Well-Known Member

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    carlos basham de wake forest
     
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  9. joshjwp

    joshjwp Well-Known Member

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    Isn't the top safety in this years class from USC? I don't really watch college football much, but I feel like I read that somewhere.
     
  10. ThreeandOut

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    Nice having a non-Dak thread at the top of the board.
     
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  11. Hardline

    Hardline Well-Known Member

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    Don't speak too soon. Someone will somehow mention it in this thread.
    Maybe a "Let's draft Sam Elinger" thread . LOL
     
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  12. TWOK11

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    It’s less about how good the defenses are (though when corrected for quality of competition they do have the worst net aggregate defensive ranking of all the P5 conferences and have 7 of the last 8 years) and more about how they’re coached to defend. Most defenses run a 4-2-5 (which amounts to a 4-1-6 with how they utilize the weak side linebacker, who is really a big safety) or a 3-3-5 or subtle variation of this and are very much designed to allow field goals instead of TDs.

    Granted that this applies more to front 7 players, but it is worth discussing with regards to the secondary as well. Coverage safeties are not asked to do what they need to do in the NFL on a regular basis. Big XII defenses play a lot of cover 3 and cover 4 shell looks and players are given a much smaller area of the field to defend. Contrast this with Big 10 and SEC defenses which play a lot of two deep and single high looks.

    The bottom line is Big XII defenders tend to come into the league underprepared and often poorly coached. And NFL scours have noticed this, commented on it and it’s reflected in how few Big XII defenders are selected each year.
     
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  13. cowboyec

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    eric stokes cb georgia
     
  14. Hardline

    Hardline Well-Known Member

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    Yep.
     
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  15. Hardline

    Hardline Well-Known Member

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    I can agree with that.
     
  16. Mr_437

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    Naw... it's more about DAL refusal to draft Safeties.

    Totally get it, but Big 12 should be putting out CBs... somebody is covering those WRs or not haha.
     
  17. TWOK11

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    With regards to Sterns specifically, first I’d like to see him come back strong after the injuries. He hasn’t been the same player since he was first hurt late in 2018 and it continued through much of last year, and IIRC he missed 3-4 games or so.
     
  18. TWOK11

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    Corner is the exception, as the Big XII has produced some good NFL corners on a consistent basis. Even then though, outside corners play more deep zone than they do in other conferences.

    Don’t get me wrong, I love watching Big XII games. I root for the Texas schools and other than A&M the rest of the P5 group plays in the Big XII. They play a very entertaining brand of football, and they produce some awesome OL and skill position players (it feels like every OU OL for the last 3-4 years ends up a starter in the league). Their defensive players just tend to not translate as well.
     
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  19. Beaker42

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    Draft board’s that way ————>
     
  20. TheDank

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    Eh, I don’t think it’s too early. I always love having names to remember when the CFB season starts. I think it means a lot if as a prospect you can come in with high expectations already and produce even when you’re the player that was taken into account during your opponents game plan.
     

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