My Wishful Thinking Mock

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Donald will be gone by 16, as will Barr. One of the top QBs is still on the board, so we are able to trade down a little bit and grab a 2nd and 4th. We still see no one we want and trade down a little bit more and grab a 3rd and 6th.

1 - OLB Ryan Shazier - OSU
Super fast and athletic, very productive, a team leader

2 - DT Ra'Shede Hageman - Minnesota
a mountain of a man, nice skillset, huge upside......could be a monster under the influence of Marinelli

2 - DT/DE Kelcy Quarles - South Carolina
Good size and athleticism, can play inside and out

3 - OG Dakota Dozier - Furman
A small school stud.

3 - OLB Telvin Smith - FSU
great athlete, productive, IMO can be moved to SS day 1 (could be our next DWood)

4 - CB Phillip Gaines - Rice (Converse Judson)
homer pick, my top pet cat, has size, speed, and talent to be a starting CB in the league

4 - FS Ed Reynolds - Stanford
plays with a swagger, playmaker, good athleticism

5 - DE Brent Urban - Virginia
big, strong, plays nasty

6 - ILB Max Bullough - Michigan St.
very athletic, good in coverage, productive, team leader

7 - OT Matt Patchan - Boston College
would be higher if not for injury history. he has the body and skill to be a very good starter in the league if he can remain on the field. I figure a 7th is worth the risk for a player of this caliber, he would be an absolute steal if he stays healthy.

7 - RB De'Anthony Thomas - Oregon
speed to burn, versatile, scoring threat every play

7 - FB Trey Millard - Oklahoma
do it all guy who would be higher if not for injury

7c - CB Aaron Colvin - Oklahoma
one helluva CB that drops due to injury

7c - DT Chris Whaley - Texas
homer pick, my 3rd pet cat, #3 at Texas Houston and Melton...and like the other 2, his RB experience helps him as a DT. would be higher if not for injury. Marinelli is going to enjoy having another Melton to work with.

7c - DE/OLB Chris McAllister - Baylor (Converse Judson)
homer pick, my 2nd pet cat. very good athlete, team leader, versatile

This is a defense-heavy draft, with good reason. Our defense was horrible last year. We lost several players to FA and have signed a bunch of jags and Melton.

the only position I failed to address was QB......We are ok at WR, TE, C, P, K, LS....
 

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not sure who is giving a 2nd and a 4th to move up in the first...I like a lot of the players in your mock, but I can't see all of those picks being there (from the trades)

who was your trade partner(s)?

also, (to everyone) go into the link (found in the NFL Draft Spreadsheet thread) to put your own mock in there...if we get enough participation, I will put together our own BIG BOARD from where everyone sees the picks falling

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoBGPWKdYxpndEdseXlZT2I5aFJULUIzTzJkOElvNVE&usp=sharing
 

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not sure who is giving a 2nd and a 4th to move up in the first...I like a lot of the players in your mock, but I can't see all of those picks being there (from the trades)

who was your trade partner(s)?

also, (to everyone) go into the link (found in the NFL Draft Spreadsheet thread) to put your own mock in there...if we get enough participation, I will put together our own BIG BOARD from where everyone sees the picks falling

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AoBGPWKdYxpndEdseXlZT2I5aFJULUIzTzJkOElvNVE&usp=sharing

Reread the title of the thread.
 

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Donald will be gone by 16, as will Barr. One of the top QBs is still on the board, so we are able to trade down a little bit and grab a 2nd and 4th. We still see no one we want and trade down a little bit more and grab a 3rd and 6th.


This is a defense-heavy draft, with good reason. Our defense was horrible last year. We lost several players to FA and have signed a bunch of jags and Melton.

the only position I failed to address was QB......We are ok at WR, TE, C, P, K, LS....

1 - OLB Ryan Shazier - OSU
Super fast and athletic, very productive, a team leader

2 - DT Ra'Shede Hageman - Minnesota
a mountain of a man, nice skillset, huge upside......could be a monster under the influence of Marinelli

I think Hageman gets drafted before Shazier.

2 - DT/DE Kelcy Quarles - South Carolina
Good size and athleticism, can play inside and out
Good pick.

3 - OG Dakota Dozier - Furman
A small school stud.
Good pick.

3 - OLB Telvin Smith - FSU
great athlete, productive, IMO can be moved to SS day 1 (could be our next DWood)
I'm not sure about make him a Safety. They could definitely use him as a nickel LB at his current weight and see if he could develop into a true Safety.

4 - CB Phillip Gaines - Rice (Converse Judson)
homer pick, my top pet cat, has size, speed, and talent to be a starting CB in the league
Good pick.


4 - FS Ed Reynolds - Stanford
plays with a swagger, playmaker, good athleticism
If T. Smith is a Safety, you're really collecting DBs, but you're yet to take a true DE. Quarles is a DT in Marinelli's scheme, IMO.

5 - DE Brent Urban - Virginia
big, strong, plays nasty
He played DT for the past 2 years and DE in a 3-4 before that. I think he is listed at DE because he projects best to a 3-4 DE. I don't see a great fit with the Cowboys defensive scheme.

6 - ILB Max Bullough - Michigan St.
very athletic, good in coverage, productive, team leader
He doesn't look very athletic in game footage and he ran a 4.78 and 4.76 forty at the combine and Pro Day. I don't see them drafting him for Marinelli's scheme. He would be best as 3-4 ILB, IMO.

7 - OT Matt Patchan - Boston College
would be higher if not for injury history. he has the body and skill to be a very good starter in the league if he can remain on the field. I figure a 7th is worth the risk for a player of this caliber, he would be an absolute steal if he stays healthy.
I didn't review him in my OT review, but I pulled up some game footage. He's looked decent. Fairly good power for only being 302 lbs. He has good combine/pro-day numbers but looks more like a RT only based on game footage. He's had an overwhelming number of injuries.

7 - RB De'Anthony Thomas - Oregon
speed to burn, versatile, scoring threat every play
Good.

7 - FB Trey Millard - Oklahoma
do it all guy who would be higher if not for injury
Good pick. I think he is a good fit. Excellent receiver and tall enough to perform some TE type functions.

7c - CB Aaron Colvin - Oklahoma
one helluva CB that drops due to injury
Have you watched a lot of his games? I would like to hear a scouting report on him.

7c - DT Chris Whaley - Texas
homer pick, my 3rd pet cat, #3 at Texas Houston and Melton...and like the other 2, his RB experience helps him as a DT. would be higher if not for injury. Marinelli is going to enjoy having another Melton to work with.
I don't think he has anywhere near the quickness of Melton.

He is an interesting player, but I'd prefer any of the following:
Calvin Barnett
Bruce Gaston
Zack Kerr
Ken Bishop
Viliami Moala



7c - DE/OLB Chris McAllister - Baylor (Converse Judson)
homer pick, my 2nd pet cat. very good athlete, team leader, versatile
Have you watched a lot of his games?

Summary: Overall, the one thing I would like to see at some point is a really quick/fast DE with high upside.
 

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Reread the title of the thread.

so you wish someone will overspend and give us their 1st rounder (in the 20's) by giving us a 2nd and a 4th, that kinda wishful thinking? then by all means proceed. I would wish for their first second and third (not the 4th) :D
 

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6 - ILB Max Bullough - Michigan St.
very athletic, good in coverage, productive, team leader
He doesn't look very athletic in game footage and he ran a 4.78 and 4.76 forty at the combine and Pro Day. I don't see them drafting him for Marinelli's scheme. He would be best as 3-4 ILB, IMO

I think your wrong about this kid X

SEAN LEE 40 TIME - 4.71

WOW he beats Bullough by 5 100ths of a second

I believe that Max Bullough is a sleeper and if the Dallas Cowboys can get him in the 4th round, it will prove to be one of the steals of the draft.


•The biggest knock on Max Bullough has been he doesn’t possess excellent straight line speed and/or elite athleticism. I am here to tell you that when it comes to the Mike linebacker position, I am more concerned about football IQ, overall intelligence, instincts, leadership ability and good technique. I am not going to drop a high draft pick on a guy like OSU’s Shazier, just because he runs 4.35 40. Too many times scouts fall in love with an athlete instead of a football player. Jerry Rice was the 3rd receiver taken in the draft for the same reasons. There were similar knocks on former Cowboys such as Drew Pearson, Cliff Harris and Charlie Waters. Give me a smash mouth football player over a guy that’s impressive in gym shorts every time.


Max Bullough is a natural born leader and well respected amongst his teammates as evidenced by being one of only 3 players in recent history to be elected a team captain in consecutive years.

Max Bullough has a long history of impeccable character and work ethic. He is a two time team captain and served as the quarterback of the # 1 ranked Michigan State defense. I am not going to hold one mistake against him. Defensive coordinator Pat Narduzzi said,

He is a computer on the field.”

He went on to say that there are days when Bullough is correcting the coaches, not vice-verse.

•The Mike LB has to be the smartest player on the defense. As a two time academic All American boasting a 3.56 GPA in finance, Max Bullough fits the bill. His instincts are off of the charts, and his ability to read offenses is 2nd to none. He does a great job of breaking down plays

•Max Bullough is a physical player with a non stop motor. He has a thick, powerful, upper body with a tree trunk for a neck. His read and react skills are elite. He’s always around the ball and he plays with excellent technique. At 6-3 and 242 lbs he is a physical LB who is very well disciplined, stays in his gaps, always knows his assignments and hits like a ton of bricks. The most important trait he has is durability. Unlike Sean Lee, Bullough has played in 40 consecutive games without injury.
 

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I would be disappointed if they waste a number one pick on a LB
 

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walker, i do watch OU, they show a lot of their games down here in San Antonio......and they are Texas' biggest rival. Colvin can play and he does so with some swagger.

I see your point about the DE position, and maybe I was a bit too trade happy. I just have reservations about Ealy in the first......now I would take Ford for sure. Aside from Clowney and Ford, the only other DE I really know is Jeffcoat. The homer in me wants Jeffcoat, but my brain says no. I hear very good things about Crichton, but I have no recollection of seeing him play.

As far as Whaley goes, he is pretty darned athletic. I have watched him since the Army All American game. He was actually a shiftier runner than Melton.

If I had my way, we would have signed Houston in the offseason along with Melton. Then I would have used a 7th on Whaley.

I watched McAllister in HS, he was awesome. In college he was a solid OLB, before being moved to DE. As a DE he played very well for Baylor this year. For a 7th round pick you get a guy who is hungry to get better, has a great motor, great work ethic, strong leadership skills, is athletic, intelligent, and has the versatility to play OLB and DE
 

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6 - ILB Max Bullough - Michigan St.
very athletic, good in coverage, productive, team leader
He doesn't look very athletic in game footage and he ran a 4.78 and 4.76 forty at the combine and Pro Day. I don't see them drafting him for Marinelli's scheme. He would be best as 3-4 ILB, IMO

I think your wrong about this kid X

SEAN LEE 40 TIME - 4.71

WOW he beats Bullough by 5 100ths of a second

I believe that Max Bullough is a sleeper and if the Dallas Cowboys can get him in the 4th round, it will prove to be one of the steals of the draft.


•The biggest knock on Max Bullough has been he doesn’t possess excellent straight line speed and/or elite athleticism. I am here to tell you that when it comes to the Mike linebacker position, I am more concerned about football IQ, overall intelligence, instincts, leadership ability and good technique. I am not going to drop a high draft pick on a guy like OSU’s Shazier, just because he runs 4.35 40. Too many times scouts fall in love with an athlete instead of a football player. Jerry Rice was the 3rd receiver taken in the draft for the same reasons. There were similar knocks on former Cowboys such as Drew Pearson, Cliff Harris and Charlie Waters. Give me a smash mouth football player over a guy that’s impressive in gym shorts every time.


Max Bullough is a natural born leader and well respected amongst his teammates as evidenced by being one of only 3 players in recent history to be elected a team captain in consecutive years.

Max Bullough has a long history of impeccable character and work ethic. He is a two time team captain and served as the quarterback of the # 1 ranked Michigan State defense. I am not going to hold one mistake against him. Defensive coordinator Pat Narduzzi said,

He is a computer on the field.”

He went on to say that there are days when Bullough is correcting the coaches, not vice-verse.

•The Mike LB has to be the smartest player on the defense. As a two time academic All American boasting a 3.56 GPA in finance, Max Bullough fits the bill. His instincts are off of the charts, and his ability to read offenses is 2nd to none. He does a great job of breaking down plays

•Max Bullough is a physical player with a non stop motor. He has a thick, powerful, upper body with a tree trunk for a neck. His read and react skills are elite. He’s always around the ball and he plays with excellent technique. At 6-3 and 242 lbs he is a physical LB who is very well disciplined, stays in his gaps, always knows his assignments and hits like a ton of bricks. The most important trait he has is durability. Unlike Sean Lee, Bullough has played in 40 consecutive games without injury.
I not just basing it his forty time. He doesn't look quick or fluid. Yes, instincts are very important at MLB, but the NFL has become a passing league and coverage ability is critical. Marinelli's scheme requires a lot of range from the MLB an WLB.

Lee was recovering from a knee injury at the combine. He ran 4.6 at is pro day and might have been a little faster if he had more time to recover before being timed.

Caleb McSurdy was a team captain, great guy and very intelligent. He's now working in an office.

Bullough actually reminds me of Bradie James athletically.

On a side note, I just did a review of Holloman in the final game of the season. He was quite good. I think he will be starting in game 1.
 

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walker, i do watch OU, they show a lot of their games down here in San Antonio......and they are Texas' biggest rival. Colvin can play and he does so with some swagger.

I see your point about the DE position, and maybe I was a bit too trade happy. I just have reservations about Ealy in the first......now I would take Ford for sure. Aside from Clowney and Ford, the only other DE I really know is Jeffcoat. The homer in me wants Jeffcoat, but my brain says no. I hear very good things about Crichton, but I have no recollection of seeing him play.

As far as Whaley goes, he is pretty darned athletic. I have watched him since the Army All American game. He was actually a shiftier runner than Melton.

If I had my way, we would have signed Houston in the offseason along with Melton. Then I would have used a 7th on Whaley.

I watched McAllister in HS, he was awesome. In college he was a solid OLB, before being moved to DE. As a DE he played very well for Baylor this year. For a 7th round pick you get a guy who is hungry to get better, has a great motor, great work ethic, strong leadership skills, is athletic, intelligent, and has the versatility to play OLB and DE
Ok, good info.

Check out the other late round DTs that I named and see what you think.

I think Ford would be a good pick with that later 1st round pick.
 

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1 - OLB Ryan Shazier - OSU
Super fast and athletic, very productive, a team leader

2 - DT Ra'Shede Hageman - Minnesota
a mountain of a man, nice skillset, huge upside......could be a monster under the influence of Marinelli

I think Hageman gets drafted before Shazier.

2 - DT/DE Kelcy Quarles - South Carolina
Good size and athleticism, can play inside and out
Good pick.

3 - OG Dakota Dozier - Furman
A small school stud.
Good pick.

3 - OLB Telvin Smith - FSU
great athlete, productive, IMO can be moved to SS day 1 (could be our next DWood)
I'm not sure about make him a Safety. They could definitely use him as a nickel LB at his current weight and see if he could develop into a true Safety.

4 - CB Phillip Gaines - Rice (Converse Judson)
homer pick, my top pet cat, has size, speed, and talent to be a starting CB in the league
Good pick.


4 - FS Ed Reynolds - Stanford
plays with a swagger, playmaker, good athleticism
If T. Smith is a Safety, you're really collecting DBs, but you're yet to take a true DE. Quarles is a DT in Marinelli's scheme, IMO.

5 - DE Brent Urban - Virginia
big, strong, plays nasty
He played DT for the past 2 years and DE in a 3-4 before that. I think he is listed at DE because he projects best to a 3-4 DE. I don't see a great fit with the Cowboys defensive scheme.

6 - ILB Max Bullough - Michigan St.
very athletic, good in coverage, productive, team leader
He doesn't look very athletic in game footage and he ran a 4.78 and 4.76 forty at the combine and Pro Day. I don't see them drafting him for Marinelli's scheme. He would be best as 3-4 ILB, IMO.

7 - OT Matt Patchan - Boston College
would be higher if not for injury history. he has the body and skill to be a very good starter in the league if he can remain on the field. I figure a 7th is worth the risk for a player of this caliber, he would be an absolute steal if he stays healthy.
I didn't review him in my OT review, but I pulled up some game footage. He's looked decent. Fairly good power for only being 302 lbs. He has good combine/pro-day numbers but looks more like a RT only based on game footage. He's had an overwhelming number of injuries.

7 - RB De'Anthony Thomas - Oregon
speed to burn, versatile, scoring threat every play
Good.

7 - FB Trey Millard - Oklahoma
do it all guy who would be higher if not for injury
Good pick. I think he is a good fit. Excellent receiver and tall enough to perform some TE type functions.

7c - CB Aaron Colvin - Oklahoma
one helluva CB that drops due to injury
Have you watched a lot of his games? I would like to hear a scouting report on him.

7c - DT Chris Whaley - Texas
homer pick, my 3rd pet cat, #3 at Texas Houston and Melton...and like the other 2, his RB experience helps him as a DT. would be higher if not for injury. Marinelli is going to enjoy having another Melton to work with.
I don't think he has anywhere near the quickness of Melton.

He is an interesting player, but I'd prefer any of the following:
Calvin Barnett
Bruce Gaston
Zack Kerr
Ken Bishop
Viliami Moala



7c - DE/OLB Chris McAllister - Baylor (Converse Judson)
homer pick, my 2nd pet cat. very good athlete, team leader, versatile
Have you watched a lot of his games?

Summary: Overall, the one thing I would like to see at some point is a really quick/fast DE with high upside.

Pretty much agree with all that
 

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I remember Barnett from OSU.....he is more of a run defender.....he doesn't really get much penetration up the middle......but he will form a nice wall so offenses can't really run up the middle.

Gaston reads ok, but again, seems like more of a run stuffer than a penetrator. I would take him over Barnett for sure.

I would definitely pass on Maola.

Kerr and Bishop sound quite promising. If they had the same careers but at bigger schools, they would most likely go in the top 3 rounds. Forget the other 3, these two definitely give me something to think about. I will have to try and do some more research into both of them.
 

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I remember Barnett from OSU.....he is more of a run defender.....he doesn't really get much penetration up the middle......but he will form a nice wall so offenses can't really run up the middle.

Gaston reads ok, but again, seems like more of a run stuffer than a penetrator. I would take him over Barnett for sure.

I would definitely pass on Maola.

Kerr and Bishop sound quite promising. If they had the same careers but at bigger schools, they would most likely go in the top 3 rounds. Forget the other 3, these two definitely give me something to think about. I will have to try and do some more research into both of them.

There is not much game footage of Bishop, but what is out there is comical in terms of how dominant he is against those small school OLinemen.

I don't see any of them as a run stuffer only. I did think that initially about Maola, but after watching him more I change my mind. He is a Junior that should have stayed in school another year. I think his weight probably varied and that's probably the reason that he looked quick in some games but not in others. A lot of college players play over ideal weight. Frederick was 340 to 345 in college but got all the way down to 312 for the combine. Moala was 336 at his Pro Day, but needs to be down at about 316, IMO.

Here is my analysis on all of the DTs:
http://www.walker-texas.com/2014-draft/2014-draft-DT.pdf
 

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I like a lot of the players you drafted...

Shazier is a sideline-to-sideline guy who should excel in this scheme.

Hageman has potential but questions about his motor scare me.

I like Quarles but do not agree that he can play DE at all.

I also like Telvin Smith, De'Anthony Thomas, and Max Bullough a lot.
 
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