NCAA board votes to allow autonomy for Big 5 Conferences

[ABQCOWBOY]

Updated: August 7, 2014, 1:59 PM ET
By Brian Bennett | ESPN.com

The NCAA Division I board of directors on Thursday voted to allow the 65 schools in the top five conferences to write many of their own rules. The autonomy measures -- which the power conferences had all but demanded -- will permit those leagues to decide on things such as cost-of-attendance stipends and insurance benefits for players, staff sizes, recruiting rules and mandatory hours spent on individual sports.

The Power Five (the ACC, Big 12, Big Ten, SEC and Pac-12) could begin submitting their own legislation by Oct. 1 and have it enacted at the January 2015 NCAA convention in Washington, D.C.


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[DFWJC]

I understand the stipend thing.

But I have a huge issue with widening the gap between these d-1 (some of which have truly crappy football programs) vs those unlucky enough not to be in a "Power 5" conference.

It doesn't effect the LSUs and USCs of the world. But it places an further unfair artificial advantage for an Indiana, Iowa St or Wake Forest vs aBoise St, Cincinnati, or UCF.
It's screwed up.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

This sucks... more so from a college basketball standpoint.
The last two national champions are from non power 5 conferences (technically)
not to mention two time runner up Butler,VCU & Wichita State.
college hoops is best with parity.

 

[casmith07]

This sucks... more so from a college basketball standpoint.
The last two national champions are from non power 5 conferences (technically)
not to mention two time runner up Butler,VCU & Wichita State.
college hoops is best with parity.

The AAU basketball model will ensure there is continued parity.

 

[DFWJC]

This sucks... more so from a college basketball standpoint.
The last two national champions are from non power 5 conferences (technically)
not to mention two time runner up Butler,VCU & Wichita State.
college hoops is best with parity.

3 of the last 4 hoops titles from "non power 5"

I wonder if TCU and Utah would have even been able to get in the now proclaimed power 5 if the new rules had been in place years ago?
I highly doubt it.

Neither program offers any more than programs like Cincinnati, Louisville, USF, ECU, Boise St, etc.
It's BS.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

3 of the last 4 hoops titles from "non power 5"

I wonder if TCU and Utah would have even been able to get in the now proclaimed power 5 if the new rules had been in place years ago?
I highly doubt it.

Neither program offers any more than programs like Cincinnati, Louisville, USF, ECU, Boise St, etc.
It's BS.

I think they both benefited from their geographical locations, along with being solid educational institutions.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

The AAU basketball model will ensure there is continued parity.

I hope you're right... but if the power 5 can up their budget for recruiting/student payment, it will be hard for others to keep up.
I think programs like memphis, georgetown, uconn, and a few other will be okay, being able to match the power conferences budgets... but many won't...
the playing field will be more imbalanced than ever...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...d67334-1da8-11e4-82f9-2cd6fa8da5c4_story.html

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

The AAU basketball model will ensure there is continued parity.

I will say this, early nba entries will help balance the field as well... teams with continuity, and solid, if not NBA talent, generally make strong runs if they are well coached.

 

[peplaw06]

Louisville is in the ACC now.

 

[DFWJC]

I think they both benefited from their geographical locations, along with being solid educational institutions.

The number bet 83 and number 115 ranked educational institutions does not constitute anything g special in that area.
I mean, Rice and SMU blow both those schools away in that area and both have good geography as well.

But anyway, I was just
Ointing lut that with the new Katherine disadvantages ton on power conferences , they should've glad they no long have to worry about overcoming that. Good timing.

 

[RonSpringsdaman20]

The number bet 83 and number 115 ranked educational institutions does not constitute anything g special in that area.
I mean, Rice and SMU blow both those schools away in that area and both have good geography as well.

But anyway, I was just
Ointing lut that with the new Katherine disadvantages ton on power conferences , they should've glad they no long have to worry about overcoming that. Good timing.

Benefited from those two factors definitely not the defining factors, which is football money, and the possibility of generating more.

 

[dogberry]

"Mandatory hours spent on sport" , more hours or fewer for sports participation?

Would the 65 top schools be allowed change academic standards?

Can players be required to spend the summer at their university?

Cost of attendance would have to be paid to men's basketball and football players and all women players.

 

[burmafrd]

This really is all about football when you come down to it. Those schools NOT making millions of dollars are going to be in trouble. And that is only in FBS. What about FCS and lower? There is going to have to be TV revenue sharing and a lot of the top schools are going to be making a lot less if that happens.

 

[jterrell]

various:
It is a good move really.
You take the top 50 or so teams and place them in essentially a higher bracket.
The lesser teams in those conferences like Indiana, Kentucky, Iowa State all benefit mightily. --It will hurt non power 5 teams until those teams decide to wise up and form their own non-power 5 football tourney.
But the entirety of the power 5... they are now part of the true elite.
From a player standpoint there needed to be moves made to further reward the player financially. ---this happens anyway but it is illegal and effects the school and the player negatively right now.

Basketball is totally unrelated here. Strong bball schools can afford to support its basketball teams at any rate the power 5 deems necessary.
Those schools make enough money and the teams are small enough to make that happen.
It's not like supporting 65 football players.

There is an expectation that a college education is worth A LOT of money but reality in the job marketplace puts that in question.
While you'd certainly rather have an education than not, and the better the school the better for you..., in many fields you are better off getting experience in lieu of education.
And obviously accepting a scholarship means you can not get that experience.
So rewarding those players financially to reduce that loss of income makes sense and is fair.

 

[Bill Wooten]

various:
It is a good move really.
You take the top 50 or so teams and place them in essentially a higher bracket.
The lesser teams in those conferences like Indiana, Kentucky, Iowa State all benefit mightily. --It will hurt non power 5 teams until those teams decide to wise up and form their own non-power 5 football tourney.
But the entirety of the power 5... they are now part of the true elite.
From a player standpoint there needed to be moves made to further reward the player financially. ---this happens anyway but it is illegal and effects the school and the player negatively right now.

Basketball is totally unrelated here. Strong bball schools can afford to support its basketball teams at any rate the power 5 deems necessary.
Those schools make enough money and the teams are small enough to make that happen.
It's not like supporting 65 football players.

There is an expectation that a college education is worth A LOT of money but reality in the job marketplace puts that in question.
While you'd certainly rather have an education than not, and the better the school the better for you..., in many fields you are better off getting experience in lieu of education.
And obviously accepting a scholarship means you can not get that experience.
So rewarding those players financially to reduce that loss of income makes sense and is fair.

Not to be argumentative, but what TV network is ready to step up and pay for that non-P5 tournament? On top of that, pay enough to keep football in business at the non-P5 schools? Other than ESPN, FOX is the only other player in the game and the TV deal they gave out to C-USA isn't going to cut it for the long term. The American stayed in bed with ESPN in hopes of greater exposure and at least dealing with the entity that is really controlling all of this. They are the only league with a glimmer of hope of playing by the P5 rules, but I doubt they will ever be included.

If the P5 only scheduling goes through, many of the non-P5 schools will eventually make the tough decision to shut the doors on football. Donors are not going to continue to give to their school if there is no hope of elevating to the P5 status or even the opportunity to pull off the upset here and there. Once that happens, there will be a lot of other teams (especially women's sports) that suffer and eventually get shut down since the school no longer has to offset the football scholarships.

Net result is a lot of kids lose the opportunity for a college education on an athletic scholarship.

 

[jterrell]

Not to be argumentative, but what TV network is ready to step up and pay for that non-P5 tournament? On top of that, pay enough to keep football in business at the non-P5 schools? Other than ESPN, FOX is the only other player in the game and the TV deal they gave out to C-USA isn't going to cut it for the long term. The American stayed in bed with ESPN in hopes of greater exposure and at least dealing with the entity that is really controlling all of this. They are the only league with a glimmer of hope of playing by the P5 rules, but I doubt they will ever be included.

If the P5 only scheduling goes through, many of the non-P5 schools will eventually make the tough decision to shut the doors on football. Donors are not going to continue to give to their school if there is no hope of elevating to the P5 status or even the opportunity to pull off the upset here and there. Once that happens, there will be a lot of other teams (especially women's sports) that suffer and eventually get shut down since the school no longer has to offset the football scholarships.

Net result is a lot of kids lose the opportunity for a college education on an athletic scholarship.

Any of them would basically.
ESPN or FOX themselves might give them that deal.
NBC would love to grab some more college football content.

There are only about 50 p5 teams. That's no where near the amount of content providers want.
Sports content is the largest thing keeping pay per month cable/satellite alive.

Wonder what a netflix might pay for the non-p5 top 10 games of the week?

But a playoff of of the non-P5?
Anyone who doesn't think that would sell is very, very wrong.

 

[peplaw06]

Not to be argumentative, but what TV network is ready to step up and pay for that non-P5 tournament? On top of that, pay enough to keep football in business at the non-P5 schools? Other than ESPN, FOX is the only other player in the game and the TV deal they gave out to C-USA isn't going to cut it for the long term. The American stayed in bed with ESPN in hopes of greater exposure and at least dealing with the entity that is really controlling all of this. They are the only league with a glimmer of hope of playing by the P5 rules, but I doubt they will ever be included.

If the P5 only scheduling goes through, many of the non-P5 schools will eventually make the tough decision to shut the doors on football. Donors are not going to continue to give to their school if there is no hope of elevating to the P5 status or even the opportunity to pull off the upset here and there. Once that happens, there will be a lot of other teams (especially women's sports) that suffer and eventually get shut down since the school no longer has to offset the football scholarships.

Net result is a lot of kids lose the opportunity for a college education on an athletic scholarship.

The doomsday scenarios are beyond tired. There were 35 bowl games last year, including the title game, and all but two of them were broadcast on ESPN, CBS, ABC, or FOX. The other two were broadcast on ESPN2 and ESPNU. That's more than the P5 schools. The FCS, DII and DIII playoffs are all at least partially aired on TV.

There is demand for more games being broadcast every year. This isn't going to change that.