NEED FOR OT IN 1st???

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Why does everymock draft say we need a OT in the 1st round of the draft? I just personally think it is an obvious need 2 fix the FS position. Ko Simpson or a Micheal Huff (he wont drop to #18 tho) OT mite be something to pick in free agency or keep pettiti and see how he is improving (there was minor improvment last year tho bledsoe couldnt c a whole lot of it from being on his back half the game cuz of tucker. A ball hawk saftey in the back 2 keep things like week 2 of this year from happening would be ideal. Any other sugjestions for a first rounder? and dont say MLB!
 

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Wolf2k5 said:
Why does everymock draft say we need a OT in the 1st round of the draft? I just personally think it is an obvious need 2 fix the FS position. Ko Simpson or a Micheal Huff (he wont drop to #18 tho) OT mite be something to pick in free agency or keep pettiti and see how he is improving (there was minor improvment last year tho bledsoe couldnt c a whole lot of it from being on his back half the game cuz of tucker. A ball hawk saftey in the back 2 keep things like week 2 of this year from happening would be ideal. Any other sugjestions for a first rounder? and dont say MLB!

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Wolf2k5 said:
Any other sugjestions for a first rounder? and dont say MLB!
Sorry man, but I think MLB/OLB is exactly what we should do with our first pick, preferably after a modest trade down. Bobby Carpenter anyone?
 

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I think this is a major area in need of upgrade but I don't it is a must that Dallas select an OT with the 1st pick. I'll stick to my guns and say get the BPA that fits a need. If that ends up being a FS or LB then do it.
 

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Petitti is a lost cause.

After 1 season? I guess you forgot what Mark Tuinie looked like when he 1st took over that position. Aikman does Philly sacked him 11 times in that game
 

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Perhaps because the defense wasn't that bad, maybe that is why we need a OT. THe Online was a SERIOUS problem. Safety was not. OT, MLB, WR then FS.
 

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If the best player available at #18 is an OT then we whould draft him. However I doubt that will be the case. Very good offensive linemen can be had in later rounds. Wasn't Larry Allen a 2nd rouynder? Floaell Adams also, right?

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sacase said:
Perhaps because the defense wasn't that bad, maybe that is why we need a OT. THe Online was a SERIOUS problem. Safety was not. OT, MLB, WR then FS.
True, we may need an OT and probably a center too, but drafting one in the first round is not the answer.

This team is poised for a Superbowl run now. No time to draft and develop offensive lineman. Fix the O-Line in Free Agency.

Use our first and second rounders for impact players that can contribute now ala Huff, Carpenter, Lawson, Watson, etc.
 

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True, we may need an OT and probably a center too, but drafting one in the first round is not the answer.

This team is poised for a Superbowl run now. No time to draft and develop offensive lineman. Fix the O-Line in Free Agency.

Use our first and second rounders for impact players that can contribute now ala Huff, Carpenter, Lawson, Watson, etc.

I agree with JJT of the Dallas Morning News who said that Dallas has enough holes and/or aging players on offense and defense that their best strategy would still be to draft the best player available at each draft pick.

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I'm still hoping we can get something out of Colombo at RT. Guy had tons of potential if he can get healthy.
 

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AMERICAS_FAN said:
If the best player available at #18 is an OT then we whould draft him. However I doubt that will be the case. Very good offensive linemen can be had in later rounds. Wasn't Larry Allen a 2nd rouynder? Floaell Adams also, right?

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I see that as being the prudent move as well. The Cowboys need to take the OT if he is the best player on the board regardless of position. I doubt, though, that "Da Brick" will fall that low....
 

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We've got serious holes on the OL, OLB and FS. We also need a good PK & need to add a vet ILB familiar with the 3-4 who can start/backup (replaces Dat) depending on Burnett's health/development. FA should be used to pick up players at Center, PK & vet ILB when season opens on March 3. I'm not wild about FA RT options, although Ashworth of NE did a good job for them at RT before he was moved to LT due to Pat's OL injuries. Signing him might be would be good idea & he's young. Don't want either the Eagles or Lions RT.

Been looking at a variety of mock drafts which are all over the board, but that will change after the combines. Based on Senior Bowl performances some of the top OTs have dropped into the 2nd round; these & 1-2 other highly regarded OTs will be there with our 2nd round 17th pick. So,

1) First round - grab either Carpenter/Lawson or Huff/Simpson (if by some miracle Huff & maybe even Lawson fall to us); also still try trade down to pick up another 3rd or 4th but only if we can do so w/o losing the player we want.
2) Second - Since several good OTs available, I'd draft OT with 2nd choice at FS but in any case no overreaching--take one of the BPA guys. Wouldn't object to drafting WR either here or in 3nd round--particularly Chad Jackson.
3) Third - Will still be good place for FS or DE (can be converted to OLB) or WR (Chad Jackson).
If we can pick up another 3rd rounder or a 4th somehow, might be good place for a DT (John McCargo, Kyle Williams), who along with Pepper Johnson can be long-term answer here.
5) Fifth - BPA at ILB/OL/TE/FB/WR/CB; same goes for 6th & 7th rounds.

We should be able to add at least 3 starters in first 3 rounds, and combined with at least 3 FA acquisitions (hopefully C, PK & vet ILB), should vastly improve Cowboys performance. And I'm settling for nothing less then winning NFC East (12-4) or Wild Card (12-4 or 11-5), and in either case, winning at least 1-2 playoff games.
 

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Wolf2k5 said:
Why does everymock draft say we need a OT in the 1st round of the draft? I just personally think it is an obvious need 2 fix the FS position. Ko Simpson or a Micheal Huff (he wont drop to #18 tho) OT mite be something to pick in free agency or keep pettiti and see how he is improving (there was minor improvment last year tho bledsoe couldnt c a whole lot of it from being on his back half the game cuz of tucker. A ball hawk saftey in the back 2 keep things like week 2 of this year from happening would be ideal. Any other sugjestions for a first rounder? and dont say MLB!

I am not for drafting for "need", but when your tackles are 1-2 in the NFL in sacks allowed and your best OL is coming off an ACL injury, it makes for a more compelling case

FS is not a position that is going to suddenly transform us into an overhwlming, dominant defense...however having good tackles will transform the offense from an inconsistent, sack prone bunch into at least an adequate group

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After 1 season? I guess you forgot what Mark Tuinie looked like when he 1st took over that position. Aikman does Philly sacked him 11 times in that game

i don't think *ANY PLAYER* who went through what petitti went through is a "lost cause" - quite the contrary i think he'll be better in time. i think this "bad year" for him will make him a better player in the long run.

all that said i DO NOT want to see us draft an OL in the 1st round. major area of need? to be sure. but let's not plug a rookie in there to protect one of the few qb's to ever play the game who HAS to have near "Flawless" protection to be effective. let's find 2-3 OL's out there in their mid-later 20's with 2-3 years under their belt and seems to be solid overall. the big ticket names probably are not going anywhere for *MUCH* the same reason flo didn't go anywhere.

good ones are hard to find, great ones you don't let get away. so we gotta spot a "hutchinson" years ahead of time, not give up the big payday *after* the solid seasons are done.

LB, FS is our 1st day priority given where we are now.
 

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i don't think *ANY PLAYER* who went through what petitti went through is a "lost cause" - quite the contrary i think he'll be better in time. i think this "bad year" for him will make him a better player in the long run.

all that said i DO NOT want to see us draft an OL in the 1st round. major area of need? to be sure. but let's not plug a rookie in there to protect one of the few qb's to ever play the game who HAS to have near "Flawless" protection to be effective. let's find 2-3 OL's out there in their mid-later 20's with 2-3 years under their belt and seems to be solid overall. the big ticket names probably are not going anywhere for *MUCH* the same reason flo didn't go anywhere.

good ones are hard to find, great ones you don't let get away. so we gotta spot a "hutchinson" years ahead of time, not give up the big payday *after* the solid seasons are done.

LB, FS is our 1st day priority given where we are now.


I hope petitti does work out and in no way would I be willing to give up on him. There is no way at this stage to know if he will become a top O-lineman for the Cowboys but it way to early to be claiming he is a lost cause. Tucker on the other hand I look forward to seeing him cut loose.
 

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Tucker on the other hand I look forward to seeing him cut loose.

I think we see what he can do at G before cutting him loose. He's not a T and we need to stop trying to make him one.
 

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I think we see what he can do at G before cutting him loose. He's not a T and we need to stop trying to make him one.

True I was only thinking in terms of him playing tackle when I wrote that statement.
 
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