Negotiation Tactics

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As an attorney, the majority of what I do on a daily basis is problem solving, and negotiating settlements in many different kinds of cases. There are several negotiating tactics than can be employed in negotiating a settlement of a case or dispute.

Some parties ask for the moon, and then retreat as negotiations go on, and approach something the parties can live with. A second school of thought is to ask for slightly more than you want and then hold your ground and move very grudgingly, if at all.

The problem with shooting for the moon (I think the players association has taken this approach) is that unless that you show that you are willing to move toward the middle ground at a fairly good pace, then you become viewed as unreasonable, and the other side usually becomes more firmly entrenched and less willing to concede anything. If neither side flinches, then things reach an impasse quickly.

The biggest problem with this approach is that "usually" one side or the other has a stronger position than the other, and when the weaker side flinches, it is all over but the crying, and the weaker side will usually get less than than they would if they had built a bridge in negotiations.

This form of negotiating is more of a "give me what I want or I am going to kill a hostage" scenario. The problem with this type of negotiation is if you threaten to kill a hostage, you had better be willing to pull the trigger and shoot him dead, or you are "done" as a credible negotiator.

The more reasonable approach tends to build coalitions better with all sides feeling better about things in the end, and more trust between them after the negotiations are over. The risk in not shooting for more (or in this case the moon) is it gives you little wiggle room to give any at all if the other side doesn't see things your way and the negotiation may fail because you appear inflexible.

Usually somewhere in the middle is best, but since it is an inexact science, you never know exactly where to start, since where you start often has a bearing on how much you get when you settle.

But once again, the parties are seldom in a position of equal bargaining power, and one side usually has an edge. In an employer-employee relationship, usually it is the employer who will have that advantage. The problem of representing a party who is negotiating a position of weakness (usually the employees) is that if you work too hard at trying to get every dollar that could potentially be on the table for too long, the weakness of your bargaining position starts working against you, giving you less than if you had been more reasonable to begin with.

I believe that legally, and practically, the players are in a weaker position than the owners, and as time goes on that weakness will begin to work against them more and more. When you add the disparity of the interests between the various tiers of players, it is a recipe for disaster.

I think that the players will get more in the long run if their demands become more reasonable. In fact, one might argue that it is in the players' best interests to send a different negotiator to the table and switch up their negotiating tactics from a "kill a hostage mode" to more of a coalition building style.

If they stick with their current negotiating team, and stance, they had better be right or it is going to cost them a lot in current dollars and also hamper their efforts in future negotiations, since the faces change, but the issues will probably remain the same.
 
Excellent post! For those posters who have never been through a mediation, this is a great overview from one who clearly speaks with the voice of experience. Thank you Verdict!
 
In deed a quality description of the process. As it applies to the players, the low end considerations should tend towards resolving issue on the lowest reasonable level possible. That leaves in tact process for future changes as well as functional mechanism for conducting redress of specifics in issues.
 
So if the players were asking for the moon then what was the owners asking for? Milky way?
 
adbutcher;3959831 said:
So if the players were asking for the moon then what was the owners asking for? Milky way?

I believe both sides started too high and got insulted by the other side's proposal. Egos kicked in and "the hostage is dying."
 
CooterBrown;3959840 said:
I believe both sides started too high and got insulted by the other side's proposal. Egos kicked in and "the hostage is dying."

Call in the combat lifesavers...
 
One more thing .... I think that the owners' decision to "lock out" the players was the owners' statement to the players to go ahead and shoot the hostage.
 
Superb post.
Verdict;3959755 said:
But once again, the parties are seldom in a position of equal bargaining power, and one side usually has an edge. In an employer-employee relationship, usually it is the employer who will have that advantage. The problem of representing a party who is negotiating a position of weakness (usually the employees) is that if you work too hard at trying to get every dollar that could potentially be on the table for too long, the weakness of your bargaining position starts working against you, giving you less than if you had been more reasonable to begin with.
This is essentially the problem I have been fearful of happening for years, while watching this sport enjoy enormous growth and understanding the greed factor which accompanies it. It's not a popular notion (that's an understatement), but the owners must receive many of their expectations for a new collective bargaining agreement to enjoy minimum or zero labor strife down the line. It is the main reason why they opted out of the old CBA.

Of course, the whole litigation process is mudding up already murky waters as is. Hopefully, the court will push both parties back to the negotiating table to hammer out a real compromise (which may or may not be exactly what either side hoped for).
 
Verdict;3961068 said:
One more thing .... I think that the owners' decision to "lock out" the players was the owners' statement to the players to go ahead and shoot the hostage.
I agree with your assessment, but do you feel that the trade association's decision to decertify helped pull the trigger?
 
I think you've got it backwards on who took what position. The owners' initial offer was a total shot for the moon. They were never going to get that kind of a deal or anywhere near that deal. The players' initial offer was actually worse than the 2006 deal, but only slightly worse. Obviously we're going to end up with the players accepting a deal that's worse than the 2006 deal, but it's not going to be THAT much worse, so I think the players' initial offer was pretty close to what you sort of refer to as the "hold your ground" offer.

On a scale of 1 to 10, with 1 being the most favorable deal for the owners imaginable and 10 being the 2006 deal, the owners' initial offer was a 1 and the players' initial offer was a 8 or 9.
 
Verdict;3959755 said:
Usually somewhere in the middle is best, but since it is an inexact science, you never know exactly where to start, since where you start often has a bearing on how much you get when you settle.

But once again, the parties are seldom in a position of equal bargaining power, and one side usually has an edge. In an employer-employee relationship, usually it is the employer who will have that advantage. The problem of representing a party who is negotiating a position of weakness (usually the employees) is that if you work too hard at trying to get every dollar that could potentially be on the table for too long, the weakness of your bargaining position starts working against you, giving you less than if you had been more reasonable to begin with.

I believe that legally, and practically, the players are in a weaker position than the owners, and as time goes on that weakness will begin to work against them more and more. When you add the disparity of the interests between the various tiers of players, it is a recipe for disaster.

I think that the players will get more in the long run if their demands become more reasonable. In fact, one might argue that it is in the players' best interests to send a different negotiator to the table and switch up their negotiating tactics from a "kill a hostage mode" to more of a coalition building style.

If they stick with their current negotiating team, and stance, they had better be right or it is going to cost them a lot in current dollars and also hamper their efforts in future negotiations, since the faces change, but the issues will probably remain the same.


True, the NFLPA is like the Accident Lawyer that says he can get you 30,000 but you end up with 3,000 instead.
 
theogt;3961083 said:
I think you've got it backwards on who took what position. The owners' initial offer was a total shot for the moon. They were never going to get that kind of a deal or anywhere near that deal. The players' initial offer was actually worse than the 2006 deal, but only slightly worse. Obviously we're going to end up with the players accepting a deal that's worse than the 2006 deal, but it's not going to be THAT much worse, so I think the players' initial offer was pretty close to what you sort of refer to as the "hold your ground" offer.

On a scale of 1 to 10, with 1 being the most favorable deal for the owners imaginable and 10 being the 2006 deal, the owners' initial offer was a 1 and the players' initial offer was a 8 or 9.

You are seeing this as a lawyer...lol. I first see it on basis of public and economic need throughout the country. That's a cruel world for corporations today, and they have to have some, reason based wiggle to adapt to the wild as well.
 
CCBoy;3961141 said:
You are seeing this as a lawyer...lol. I first see it on basis of public and economic need throughout the country. That's a cruel world for corporations today, and they have to have some, reason based wiggle to adapt to the wild as well.


The American economy will thrive easily with or without the NFL.
 
SilverStarCowboy;3961149 said:
The American economy will thrive easily with or without the NFL.

I believe in our country as well. Based on your statement, I don't think that I would run for President right now...as even Medicare could be a real casualty by associations with party groupings.

I think a mega business such as the NFL is important to this economy right now.

Just bouncing points back at you here...:)
 
When did the players ever ask for anything?

If wanting to work for the exact same provisions of your last previously agreed contract is asking for the moon or threatening to shoot the hostage.

What was asking for a 18% reduction in salary and adding a longer work year by going to a 18 game season.

To even paint the players as asking for to much is showing a clear bias.
 
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