New CBA favorable to high-priced vets?

[Stash]

We’re entering the final stretch of the lockout (hopefully), and yet there are still so many unanswered questions about what the new CBA will look like.
We’re hearing that one aspect of the new agreement will be very friendly to veterans with big salaries.

PFT has picked up word that the new deal is expected to protect veterans from becoming cap casualties. We also hear there’s language in the deal that good agents will exploit for veteran players.

It remains to be seen exactly what shape these rules take, and whether they will be permanent or for one year only. But it sounds like it will be easier for teams to retain high priced veterans.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/#content

I don't remember reading that Roy Williams took part in the new CBA negotiations?

But I wonder if teams will be getting some sort of exemptions for these deals? Otherwise, the Cowboys could now be extremely limited in what they can do.

 

[YosemiteSam]

There shouldn't be anything that protects anyone from becoming a cap casualty. If you arn't pulling your weight, you deserve to be booted from the ship. Why in hell should you be protected?

 

[Kangaroo]

There shouldn't be anything that protects anyone from becoming a cap casualty. If you arn't pulling your weight, you deserve to be booted from the ship. Why in hell should you be protected?

Sometimes with vets they where producing but due to salary cap they keep a young player over the solid but unspectacular vet. Your Bill bates and other players along that line.

 

[Yeagermeister]

You'd think with the rookie cap that wouldn't be as big a problem.

 

[Stash]

I'm very curious as to what exactly this will mean for players and teams?

Will this be some sort of exemption to help teams get and stay in compliance with salary cap rules?

I'm thinking that just like teams are expected to have time to get up to the salary floor, other teams should equally have time to get down under the current cap ceiling. And by giving teams exemptions, it will allow them to meet that requirement without veteran players 'paying the price'.

I'll leave it to our resident cap experts.

 

[Hoofbite]

There shouldn't be anything that protects anyone from becoming a cap casualty. If you arn't pulling your weight, you deserve to be booted from the ship. Why in hell should you be protected?

I think the idea is to give teams some leeway so they don't have to chose between a fan favorite who has been with the team since he was drafted and some young player who's contract is not even half as much as the old guys.

I like it.

 

[CCBoy]

Hey, it's beneficial to veterans and mirrors somewhat what is done in the NBA as to cap ceilings. Think?

 

[jterrell]

We’re entering the final stretch of the lockout (hopefully), and yet there are still so many unanswered questions about what the new CBA will look like.
We’re hearing that one aspect of the new agreement will be very friendly to veterans with big salaries.

PFT has picked up word that the new deal is expected to protect veterans from becoming cap casualties. We also hear there’s language in the deal that good agents will exploit for veteran players.

It remains to be seen exactly what shape these rules take, and whether they will be permanent or for one year only. But it sounds like it will be easier for teams to retain high priced veterans.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/#content

I don't remember reading that Roy Williams took part in the new CBA negotiations?

But I wonder if teams will be getting some sort of exemptions for these deals? Otherwise, the Cowboys could now be extremely limited in what they can do.

This is the 3 mil exemption this year and 1.5 mil exemption next year that has been discussed. I believe it only applies ot one player but the details have been fairly scant so I could be mistaken.

I do wonder if it allows us to keep someone like Stephen Bowen. A 3 mil savings for us may make him retainable at no cap cost beyond the base 51 minimum (405K currently??).

 

[Hoofbite]

I'm very curious as to what exactly this will mean for players and teams?

Will this be some sort of exemption to help teams get and stay in compliance with salary cap rules?

I'm thinking that just like teams are expected to have time to get up to the salary floor, other teams should equally have time to get down under the current cap ceiling. And by giving teams exemptions, it will allow them to meet that requirement without veteran players 'paying the price'.

I'll leave it to our resident cap experts.

I can only see this working for a player who was drafted by his team and then played significant time there. Or, if the guy has like 10 seasons with current team. I doubt Roy Williams would qualify for Dallas. You can't just be old, I'm betting you have to have accrued time with the current team.

I like the idea. It means Dallas will be able to keep Ware, Witten, Romo at discounted prices.

 

[Yeagermeister]

Hey, it's beneficial to veterans and mirrors somewhat what is done in the NBA as to cap ceilings. Think?

The same system the NBA is trying to get rid of and go to a hard cap? :laugh2:

 

[AMERICAS_FAN]

I'm very curious as to what exactly this will mean for players and teams?

Will this be some sort of exemption to help teams get and stay in compliance with salary cap rules?

I'm thinking that just like teams are expected to have time to get up to the salary floor, other teams should equally have time to get down under the current cap ceiling. And by giving teams exemptions, it will allow them to meet that requirement without veteran players 'paying the price'.

I'll leave it to our resident cap experts.

From what I've read, it will help teams hod on to their own free agents who are due big money, where before that endangered them to being cap casualties. I have not read about speciifc rules, but reading between the lines it soulnds like the slary cap rules for home grown vets you want to keep will be differnet from other free agents and more favorable to teams.

So I'm hoping it means Dallas will have a much easier time re-signing Doug Free without blowing up the cap. And if Rob Ryan wants Spears around, then this can help Dallas keep him too under cap-friendly terms.

 

[CCBoy]

The same system the NBA is trying to get rid of and go to a hard cap? :laugh2:

Oh, I think that the chefs of the NFL are going for a much creamier blend that only accentuates, not dominates the flavor.

 

[CCBoy]

From what I've read, it will help teams hod on to their own free agents who are due big money, where before that endangered them to being cap casualties. I have not read about speciifc rules, but reading between the lines it soulnds like the slary cap rules for home grown vets you want to keep will be differnet from other free agents and more favorable to teams.

So I'm hoping it means Dallas will have a much easier time re-signing Doug Free without blowing up the cap. And if Rob Ryan wants Spears around, then this can help Dallas keep him too under cap-friendly terms.

B...I...N....G...O, and Bingo was his Name-O.

 

[Yeagermeister]

From what I've read, it will help teams hod on to their own free agents who are due big money, where before that endangered them to being cap casualties. I have not read about speciifc rules, but reading between the lines it soulnds like the slary cap rules for home grown vets you want to keep will be differnet from other free agents and more favorable to teams.

So I'm hoping it means Dallas will have a much easier time re-signing Doug Free without blowing up the cap. And if Rob Ryan wants Spears around, then this can help Dallas keep him too under cap-friendly terms.

Unfortunately it doesn't seem like anyone wants to keep Spears around.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

The same system the NBA is trying to get rid of and go to a hard cap? :laugh2:

I hope not, a soft cap is complete BS.

Edit: Actually a soft cap w/ garunteed deals is complete BS, I can live with one for the first year or so of the new CBA.

 

[CCBoy]

Unfortunately it doesn't seem like anyone wants to keep Spears around.

Yeager....I do.

 

[Yeagermeister]

Yeager....I do.

So do I but we don't make the decisions :laugh2:

 

[Primetime42]

I think the idea is to give teams some leeway so they don't have to chose between a fan favorite who has been with the team since he was drafted and some young player who's contract is not even half as much as the old guys.

I like it.

I would love to see a system that lets established vets stay with a team if they want him back.

Biggest reason I hate the salary cap is because it wrecked our dynasty by having us lose so many key guys.

 

[Yeagermeister]

I would love to see a system that lets established vets stay with a team if they want him back.

Biggest reason I hate the salary cap is because it wrecked our dynasty by having us lose so many key guys.

Free agency hurt more than the salary cap and bad coaching hires

 

[Primetime42]

Free agency hurt more than the salary cap and bad coaching hires

Free agency goes hand in hand with the salary cap in this case.

You think we wouldn't have kept all those guys if we had the cap room?