New NFL Rule

[renny]

Personally, I believe all these new rules (helment rule) will use to dictate outcome of games. I feel that this is the same type of situation as the catch rule, wipes out a big play and have a direct outcome on the game. Everyone knew Dee caught the ball against Green Bay, but it wasn't a problem until a team like Pittsburg lost because of the rule.

 

[CPanther95]

It will definitely benefit the league's favorite teams.

Sounds like a step in the right direction.

 

[HowardC]

Personally, I believe all these new rules (helment rule) will use to dictate outcome of games. I feel that this is the same type of situation as the catch rule, wipes out a big play and have a direct outcome on the game. Everyone knew Dee caught the ball against Green Bay, but it wasn't a problem until a team like Pittsburg lost because of the rule.

Definitely. Remember when Murray knocked that gnat LB on his *** by lowering his head into the guy's chest and then gained 20 yards? Plays like that will now be null and void and ripe for the officiating picking next time the Jags are playing the cheats...

 

[RJ_MacReady]

Definitely. Remember when Murray knocked that gnat LB on his *** by lowering his head into the guy's chest and then gained 20 yards? Plays like that will now be null and void and ripe for the officiating picking next time the Jags are playing the cheats...

It was even better than some remember it as it was a D-lineman that he trucked:

 

[EPL0c0]

So does this new dive rule mean no more goalline leaps? No more short yardage or 1st down leaps or QB sneaks?

I can't get any sense of clarity from this rule.

Would Carr have been down when he started his dive?

Would Heath have been flagged for a late hit?

Would the fumble have been nullified?

OR

Would Dez have been ruled down before he "lost control" of the ball?

or

 

[Praxit]

It was even better than some remember it as it was a D-lineman that he trucked:

..that hit is about as spontaneous as they come. Given his momentum where could he go, if not going backwards?

 

[EPL0c0]

Would this play no longer count?

Would these be down at about the 1 or 2?

If so, the NFL is really taking away a big part of Some QB’s game



Or

 

[MarcusRock]

So does this new dive rule mean no more goalline leaps? No more short yardage or 1st down leaps or QB sneaks?

I can't get any sense of clarity from this rule.

Would Carr have been down when he started his dive?

Would Heath have been flagged for a late hit?

Would the fumble have been nullified?

OR

Would Dez have been ruled down before he "lost control" of the ball?

or

I think people are misunderstanding the "forward slide" rule. Players lunging for more yardage will still get all they lunge for. That's a deliberate action where a player is taking a known risk, defenders be damned. They won't get the same "defenseless" protection as someone who slides in such a fashion as "giving himself up." Not every player who gives himself up slides feet first. Some are clumsy and some clearly dive to avoid a hit without going feet first. Those players will be considered defenseless and defenders will be penalized for hits on them whereas in the past they weren't because the ball carrier didn't slide feet first. Romo, towards the end of his career would "feel" sacks coming and just lay down to give himself up. A defender couldn't come and dive on him at that point. Stuff like this is now extended to all ball carriers.

So Carr's fumble would still count. Dez' play was never a catch because the "going to the ground rule" was king back then, so that play was over once Dez lost control of the ball. That rule's been changed to prioritizing the 3 parts of a catch instead of having the going to the ground exception overruling it.

 

[HowardC]

It was even better than some remember it as it was a D-lineman that he trucked:

He did the same thing in a gnats game

 

[erod]

I think people are misunderstanding the "forward slide" rule. Players lunging for more yardage will still get all they lunge for.

But if they're lunging to get to the pylon, or lunging for the first down, you can't hit him. That's the problem.

 

[erod]

It was even better than some remember it as it was a D-lineman that he trucked:

That's now a 15-yard personal foul against Demarco Murray, and he could be ejected from the game.

 

[kskboys]

Easy answer. Stop using your helmet as a weapon. It should've never been allowed in the first place.

 

[John813]

Makes me wonder if Shazier didn't **** up his spine if this rule would be in place?

 

[MarcusRock]

But if they're lunging to get to the pylon, or lunging for the first down, you can't hit him. That's the problem.

I don't think that's accurate. That's not a player "giving himself up" which is the actual language the NFL used. If you saw something interpreting the rule that covers players diving for a first down or the endzone, I'd love to see it.

 

[InTheZone]

Makes me wonder if Shazier didn't **** up his spine if this rule would be in place?

I was taught as a kid to never lead with your helmet into a tackle, basically don't lower and initiate contact with your helmet first. Same applies to the ball carrier. They think their head is safe, they forget about their neck and back.

It's how Lockett and Shazier got messed up.