New quarterback rules for safety

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I was very disappointed that the refs last night were calling penalties for basically tackling the quarterback as he throws the ball! It is an exaggeration of the recent roughing the passer modifications. A simple tackle, as Basham I believe was taking down a QB in the act of throwing the ball, was called.

It is simply ridiculous, and the wacky application of the rule will make the NFL more unwatchable. It gives me the feeling that the crowd that says the NFL is entertainment, (not legally a sport) is right. The whole thing is giving a weird impression of being manufactured.

Regardless of whether or not the manufacturing is real, prohibiting textbook tackling of quarterbacks is going to be as disastrous as the "what is a catch" rules, when they took away Dez's catch. The NFL's credibility is still frozen back in Green Bay's playoff game in Jan 2015.
 

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I was very disappointed that the refs last night were calling penalties for basically tackling the quarterback as he throws the ball! It is an exaggeration of the recent roughing the passer modifications. A simple tackle, as Basham I believe was taking down a QB in the act of throwing the ball, was called.

It is simply ridiculous, and the wacky application of the rule will make the NFL more unwatchable. It gives me the feeling that the crowd that says the NFL is entertainment, (not legally a sport) is right. The whole thing is giving a weird impression of being manufactured.

Regardless of whether or not the manufacturing is real, prohibiting textbook tackling of quarterbacks is going to be as disastrous as the "what is a catch" rules, when they took away Dez's catch. The NFL's credibility is still frozen back in Green Bay's playoff game in Jan 2015.


As long as the game continues to make money they will continue to change the rules to favor that. 10 years from now we may not recognize the sport. Money will always ruin everything.
 

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I was very disappointed that the refs last night were calling penalties for basically tackling the quarterback as he throws the ball! It is an exaggeration of the recent roughing the passer modifications. A simple tackle, as Basham I believe was taking down a QB in the act of throwing the ball, was called.

It is simply ridiculous, and the wacky application of the rule will make the NFL more unwatchable. It gives me the feeling that the crowd that says the NFL is entertainment, (not legally a sport) is right. The whole thing is giving a weird impression of being manufactured.

Regardless of whether or not the manufacturing is real, prohibiting textbook tackling of quarterbacks is going to be as disastrous as the "what is a catch" rules, when they took away Dez's catch. The NFL's credibility is still frozen back in Green Bay's playoff game in Jan 2015.
Wait until opening night with Brady. The man is 45 years old the Cowboys better take their shots no matter what penalties the players get. The penalties on Sam and Bashum was horse cr$&&@!
 

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I was very disappointed that the refs last night were calling penalties for basically tackling the quarterback as he throws the ball! It is an exaggeration of the recent roughing the passer modifications. A simple tackle, as Basham I believe was taking down a QB in the act of throwing the ball, was called.

It is simply ridiculous, and the wacky application of the rule will make the NFL more unwatchable. It gives me the feeling that the crowd that says the NFL is entertainment, (not legally a sport) is right. The whole thing is giving a weird impression of being manufactured.

Regardless of whether or not the manufacturing is real, prohibiting textbook tackling of quarterbacks is going to be as disastrous as the "what is a catch" rules, when they took away Dez's catch. The NFL's credibility is still frozen back in Green Bay's playoff game in Jan 2015.
Gonna put flags on them next.
 

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If the NFL was really serious about increasing the safety of the players then they wouldn't change the rules for them. Instead, they would change the players.

The majority of the health and physical issues after football effect those that had extended careers. It is the cumulative result of taking a beating for a decade or more.

What right do players have to force changes to the game of football? These constant rules changes will eventually evolve into a game that is unrecognizable.

There should be a six year limit on playing in the NFL in addition to a 2nd major injury limit. The players career may be extended only if their 1st major injury resulted in a loss of at least half a season. Their 2nd major injury ends their careers before the six year limit.

This seems like a fair policy and because the NFL was forced into admitting the dangers of football and make some compensation, the players cannot then turn around and demand to play longer knowing the health risks.
 

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If the NFL was really serious about increasing the safety of the players then they wouldn't change the rules for them. Instead, they would change the players.

The majority of the health and physical issues after football effect those that had extended careers. It is the cumulative result of taking a beating for a decade or more.

What right do players have to force changes to the game of football? These constant rules changes will eventually evolve into a game that is unrecognizable.

There should be a six year limit on playing in the NFL in addition to a 2nd major injury limit. The players career may be extended only if their 1st major injury resulted in a loss of at least half a season. Their 2nd major injury ends their careers before the six year limit.

This seems like a fair policy and because the NFL was forced into admitting the dangers of football and make some compensation, the players cannot then turn around and demand to play longer knowing the health risks.
Right. It's okay to risk their lives, as long as it's only for six years.
 

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Right. It's okay to risk their lives, as long as it's only for six years.

So you've deduced then that NFL football should be illegal because players are risking their lives?

They decided to risk their lives playing this game so you feel obligated to step in and make the safer decisions for them? That is the only logical conclusion based on your statement.

If the game is going to be played, then that risk exists just as much as we risk our lives every day we drive onto a highway.

I am suggesting a policy that reduces that amount of risk because it increases as the length of an NFL career increases.
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So you've deduced then that NFL football should be illegal because players are risking their lives?

They decided to risk their lives playing this game so you feel obligated to step in and make the safer decisions for them? That is the only logical conclusion based on your statement.

If the game is going to be played, then that risk exists just as much as we risk our lives every day we drive onto a highway.

I am suggesting a policy that reduces that amount of risk because it increases as the length of an NFL career increases.
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And we're continually adding ways to make driving safer, such as seat belts, airbags, collision alerts and automatic braking, etc...and laws are being added or amended to keep us safer.

Nobody is being told they can only drive for six years, to reduce the odds of them being injured.

I miss the old smash mouth football too, but if it's a choice between a less violent game and a game nobody is going to want to play for a mere six years, tops...I vote for the former.
 

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And we're continually adding ways to make driving safer, such as seat belts, airbags, collision alerts and automatic braking, etc...and laws are being added or amended to keep us safer.

Nobody is being told they can only drive for six years, to reduce the odds of them being injured.

I miss the old smash mouth football too, but if it's a choice between a less violent game and a game nobody is going to want to play for a mere six years, tops...I vote for the former.
And yet people continue to get hurt in vehicle accidents. That will never end and neither will injuries from playing football. In fact, despite all efforts, not only do people continue to get injured from driving cars and playing football, those numbers continue to increase and not decrease.

People are being told they can only drive under certain conditions. They must be a certain age. They must pass tests. They must purchase insurance. These rules all place limits on someone's ability to drive a car in order for them to be safer. A six year limit does the same for the NFL in order to reduce long term damage to their bodies.

They may have changed some requirements in order to drive but we are still driving cars and not bicycles. By constantly changing the rules in football, the game is no longer football, it is something else where the rules don't apply equally to each player regardless of their position. Quarterbacks have distinct advantages that are not shared by other positions.

And let's not be naive here. Rules changes to football or driving have nothing to do with our safety, that is their excuse. the real reason has been and will always be money
 

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Well lets not get carried away, they wont do the one thing that has been factually proven to insure the players are safer........turf....again money will overide any logical conversation and make the rest of it pretty dumb in comparison.
 

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If the NFL was really serious about increasing the safety of the players then they wouldn't change the rules for them. Instead, they would change the players.

The majority of the health and physical issues after football effect those that had extended careers. It is the cumulative result of taking a beating for a decade or more.

What right do players have to force changes to the game of football? These constant rules changes will eventually evolve into a game that is unrecognizable.

There should be a six year limit on playing in the NFL in addition to a 2nd major injury limit. The players career may be extended only if their 1st major injury resulted in a loss of at least half a season. Their 2nd major injury ends their careers before the six year limit.

This seems like a fair policy and because the NFL was forced into admitting the dangers of football and make some compensation, the players cannot then turn around and demand to play longer knowing the health risks.
This may seem like a fair policy for certain outsiders but neither the league nor the players' union would ever support it. In fact, I think any type of similar proposal presented to either party would make them embrace rules changes more frequently.

There are billions at stake. A mandatory retirement limit would likely be D.O.A. if ever proposed.
 

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I was very disappointed that the refs last night were calling penalties for basically tackling the quarterback as he throws the ball! It is an exaggeration of the recent roughing the passer modifications. A simple tackle, as Basham I believe was taking down a QB in the act of throwing the ball, was called.

It is simply ridiculous, and the wacky application of the rule will make the NFL more unwatchable. It gives me the feeling that the crowd that says the NFL is entertainment, (not legally a sport) is right. The whole thing is giving a weird impression of being manufactured.

Regardless of whether or not the manufacturing is real, prohibiting textbook tackling of quarterbacks is going to be as disastrous as the "what is a catch" rules, when they took away Dez's catch. The NFL's credibility is still frozen back in Green Bay's playoff game in Jan 2015.

Basham lifted up the QB and drove him into the ground, landing on top of him. That's a no-no. And it's been called multiple times so defenders should have a good understanding of it by now. It was not a necessary part of the tackle.

Williams was a little different than that. I assume that they flagged him because he lowered his helmet some and hit the QB with it, though I'd argue that the contact was incidental because his helmet was off to the side and main contract was made with the shoulder. Those kinds of plays do not need to be flagged and are not flagged consistently, which makes it even worse when they do.
 
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