New quarterback rules for safety

[KJJ]

The more money QBs make the more tick-tacky the calls are going to be.

 

[erod]

Honestly, if that's the way they're going to call quarterback hits going forward, I won't be watching the NFL anymore. I was once a huge NFL fan, and now it's just kind of whatever to me.

 

[Runwildboys]

And yet people continue to get hurt in vehicle accidents. That will never end and neither will injuries from playing football. In fact, despite all efforts, not only do people continue to get injured from driving cars and playing football, those numbers continue to increase and not decrease.

People are being told they can only drive under certain conditions. They must be a certain age. They must pass tests. They must purchase insurance. These rules all place limits on someone's ability to drive a car in order for them to be safer. A six year limit does the same for the NFL in order to reduce long term damage to their bodies.

They may have changed some requirements in order to drive but we are still driving cars and not bicycles. By constantly changing the rules in football, the game is no longer football, it is something else where the rules don't apply equally to each player regardless of their position. Quarterbacks have distinct advantages that are not shared by other positions.

And let's not be naive here. Rules changes to football or driving have nothing to do with our safety, that is their excuse. the real reason has been and will always be money

I do agree that the primary reason for the focus on safety is financial, but that is more likely to not only actually make the game safer, but also keep the league from going so far that they lose their audience.

 

[Jarntt]

New quarterback rules for safety

gets worse every year

 

[plasticman]

This may seem like a fair policy for certain outsiders but neither the league nor the players' union would ever support it. In fact, I think any type of similar proposal presented to either party would make them embrace rules changes more frequently.

There are billions at stake. A mandatory retirement limit would likely be D.O.A. if ever proposed.

I'm pretty sure you are right. This is why I say an idea like this might be considered if they really wanted to do something to protect the player's long term health. In my opinion, the reality is that they are doing what public perception requires and little more.

My personal feelings are that many jobs are dangerous and the pay scale typically reflets acknowledgement of that fact. Recently, NFL players were paid well and I find it difficult to believe players when they demand additional compensation because they didn't realize that crashing into each other every week for half a year might result in long term issues.

One of the many reasons i admire and respect Roger Staubach was because he recognized some potential long term effects and decided to retire although he could have played at a high level for several more years. Roger retired after a season in which he led the NFL in passer rating, his fourth time.

 

[plasticman]

I do agree that the primary reason for the focus on safety is financial, but that is more likely to not only actually make the game safer, but also keep the league from going so far that they lose their audience.

I commented in an earlier post that, despite the improved technology, there are far more injuries today in the NFL than there was back in the 70's. To be fair, I do have to acknowledge that there may have been less "reported" injuries due to the pressure to play despite injury.

In any case, an average of 14-15 Cowboys players every season in the 70's participated in every regular season game while that average in the 2010's falls to around 8-9. They never had more than 10 players start all the games in a season, they had 10 players twice. In 2018 it was a total of 6 players.

 

[CouchCoach]

Did y'all think they were going to be paying these guys 50M a year and not bubble wrapping them?

The name is only football because they need their feet to get on the field. It is all about showcasing QB's and WR's, it is fantasy football for real.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Did y'all think they were going to be paying these guys 50M a year and not bubble wrapping them?

The name is only football because they need their feet to get on the field. It is all about showcasing QB's and WR's, it is fantasy football for real.

Should be renamed to Airball!!!!!! lol but yeah they are not making it a secret they want more passing and scoring.

 

[CouchCoach]

Should be renamed to Airball!!!!!! lol but yeah they are not making it a secret they want more passing and scoring.

Make the fantasy players and gamblers happy. That, is the future of the NFL.

 

[nathanlt]

Basham lifted up the QB and drove him into the ground, landing on top of him. That's a no-no. And it's been called multiple times so defenders should have a good understanding of it by now. It was not a necessary part of the tackle.

Williams was a little different than that. I assume that they flagged him because he lowered his helmet some and hit the QB with it, though I'd argue that the contact was incidental because his helmet was off to the side and main contract was made with the shoulder. Those kinds of plays do not need to be flagged and are not flagged consistently, which makes it even worse when they do.

I did see that Basham landed on his own shoulder, rather than driving the QB into the ground with his shoulder. I guess, now QB's can flop within a tackle and draw a penalty. Should be interesting when they try that... much like the fake QB slide that was tried last year.

 

[jazzcat22]

As long as the game continues to make money they will continue to change the rules to favor that. 10 years from now we may not recognize the sport. Money will always ruin everything.

Yeah, I guess this sport will never make it.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073631/

 

[pacy]

Just put 3 flags on the QB. When you grab one it is over.

Seriously, they make those QBs untouchable.

 

[JayFord]

do these rules extend to our Qb as well?

 

[DoctorChicken]

I was very disappointed that the refs last night were calling penalties for basically tackling the quarterback as he throws the ball! It is an exaggeration of the recent roughing the passer modifications. A simple tackle, as Basham I believe was taking down a QB in the act of throwing the ball, was called.

It is simply ridiculous, and the wacky application of the rule will make the NFL more unwatchable. It gives me the feeling that the crowd that says the NFL is entertainment, (not legally a sport) is right. The whole thing is giving a weird impression of being manufactured.

Regardless of whether or not the manufacturing is real, prohibiting textbook tackling of quarterbacks is going to be as disastrous as the "what is a catch" rules, when they took away Dez's catch. The NFL's credibility is still frozen back in Green Bay's playoff game in Jan 2015.

The NFL claims they’re going to go easier on the rouging calls this year. We’ll see…

 

[Praxit]

..this might be the year, fans say, "Thats it, I'm done".

 

[OmerV]

That roughing the passer call on Sam Williams was trash too.

I viewed this one as the true bad call. I think it's easy to see why the officials would have perceived the one on Basham as driving the QB into the ground

 

[JonesBoys]

Yeah, I guess this sport will never make it.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073631/

Dumb comparison good for you. I’m sure if you allowed a defensive player to hit the QB while he is throwing the football people would still watch I mean that’s how the game ended up to this point. Guys like you would take flag football apparently and call it great.

 

[jazzcat22]

Dumb comparison good for you. I’m sure if you allowed a defensive player to hit the QB while he is throwing the football people would still watch I mean that’s how the game ended up to this point. Guys like you would take flag football apparently and call it great.

you don’t make any sense. it was a joke do you have a sense of humor.

 

[Pass2Run]

Same officiating crew we had against SF in the playoffs. Says all you need to know

They shouldn't be allowed to have crews; they should rotate to prevent meddling and corruption.