New solution to the Romo problem

[Nightman]

A renegotiated deal that gives Romo more guaranteed money(he has 0m right now) and also gives DAL immediate and substantial cap relief........in return DAL gives a say to Romo in picking his new team...... it would be a new 3/43m deal with 20m guaranteed if traded....it would tear up his old deal

DAL probably gets less of a draft pick by narrowing the field but they don't have to wait until June 1st to save 13m on the cap .......they get it March 9th when they need it...... a conditional 2018 pick is the likely best trade option

A potential deal would have Romo lowering his base salary to 1m with a 10m trade activated option bonus and 250k a game roster bonus.......all guaranteed........also 5m of his 10m 2018 base salary would be guaranteed if he his on the roster March 10th 2018 but not his 250k a game roster bonus.......his 14m base salary for 2019 would not be guaranteed and he would have no roster bonuses

So if traded he gets 15m and if he stays he gets 5m to be the backup

 

[Kevinicus]

Wouldn't this just add 20M to his overall cap hit (not necessarily in 2017)? The dead money that would hit from a trade or cut is already there and is going to count regardless if I'm not mistaken. He's already been paid that money.

 

[Nightman]

Wouldn't this just add 20M to his overall cap hit (not necessarily in 2017)? The dead money that would hit from a trade or cut is already there and is going to count regardless if I'm not mistaken. He's already been paid that money.

Not at all

it would immediately change his cap hit from 24.7m to 11.7m on March 9th
if he got traded after June 1st the cap hit would drop to 10.7m and 8.9m in 2018
if he got traded before June 1st it would raise his cap hit to 19.6m in 2017 and 0m in 2018.....nothing anyone can do about that.....if he is cut, traded or retires before June 1st the hit is 19.6m

if somehow he stayed all year his cap hit would be 15.7m for the year and 8.9m in 2018

 

[Kevinicus]

Not at all

it would immediately change his cap hit from 24.7m to 11.7m on March 9th
if he got traded after June 1st the cap hit would drop to 10.7m and 8.9m in 2018
if he got traded before June 1st it would raise his cap hit to 19.6m in 2017 and 0m in 2018.....nothing anyone can do about that.....if he is cut, traded or retires before June 1st the hit is 19.6m

if somehow he stayed all year his cap hit would be 15.7m for the year and 8.9m in 2018

Okay, so the $20 million is only activated if traded (and the new team is responsible). In the off chance Romo stays, it doesn't appear to be a good deal for him.

 

[Nightman]

Okay, so the $20 million is only activated if traded (and the new team is responsible). In the off chance Romo stays, it doesn't appear to be a good deal for him.

that is the whole point ........ if he wants to keep starting then he has to do it somewhere else but at least he makes some money and we get cap relief and a draft pick

if he wants to stay then he has to know it is as a backup and he can't make 14m........no way

if he doesn't like either option he can retire and get nothing

 

[Kevinicus]

that is the whole point ........ if he wants to keep starting then he has to do it somewhere else but at least he makes some money and we get cap relief and a draft pick

if he wants to stay then he has to know it is as a backup and he can't make 14m........no way

if he doesn't like either option he can retire and get nothing

I just don't see the incentive for him to sign it, at least not unless there was a deal worked out with another team already and he was 100% certain the trade would go through. 3 Yrs at 43 is probably a bit low too.

 

[Jake]

I just don't see the incentive for him to sign it, at least not unless there was a deal worked out with another team already and he was 100% certain the trade would go through. 3 Yrs at 43 is probably a bit low too.

He's going on 37 years old, has barely played in two years, and is currently a back up. That's incentive to take 3 for 43 and run with it.

 

[Kevinicus]

He's going on 37 years old, has barely played in two years, and is currently a back up. That's incentive to take 3 for 43 and run with it.

He would get a lot more as a FA IMO.

 

[Nightman]

He's going on 37 years old, has barely played in two years, and is currently a back up. That's incentive to take 3 for 43 and run with it.

Right on, he has a contract for 3/54m right now but none of it is guaranteed

He could get 20m in guarantees with the new deal

 

[DandyDon52]

2017
Tony is due 14 mil base salary nothing Guaranteed.
and prorated signing bonus of 10.7 mil...... is this $ he already got or is still due??
if the PSB is to be paid out still then that is a form of G money.
The base salary is paid by any team he goes to, and not the cowboys, but the psb is owed from dallas no matter if he leaves or not.
and it will show on the cap either way.

My idea was to keep him and let him compete with Dak, if he would lower his base to say 4 mil That would free up 10 mil on cap.
and we dont have to pay for other bkup qb's.

The pbs 10.7 is on the cap for 2017 regardless, and it goes down to 5.7 in 2018 and 3.2 in 2019. If traded those are all dead money figures.

 

[Nightman]

2017
Tony is due 14 mil base salary nothing Guaranteed.
and prorated signing bonus of 10.7 mil...... is this $ he already got or is still due??
if the PSB is to be paid out still then that is a form of G money.
The base salary is paid by any team he goes to, and not the cowboys, but the psb is owed from dallas no matter if he leaves or not.
and it will show on the cap either way.

My idea was to keep him and let him compete with Dak, if he would lower his base to say 4 mil That would free up 10 mil on cap.
and we dont have to pay for other bkup qb's.

The pbs 10.7 is on the cap for 2017 regardless, and it goes down to 5.7 in 2018 and 3.2 in 2019. If traded those are all dead money figures.

That would be great if Romo wants to be a backup....he could play 3-4 years as a cheap QB2

 

[Cowboys22]

I'm not even sure the league would approve a provision in a contract that has $20 million become guaranteed by the new team if traded, but lets assume they would. Talk about killing Romo's trade value! No one would trade for him if upon doing so, they owe him $20 million fully guaranteed. His current appeal is that $14 million is cheap for a QB of his caliber and if he gets hurt or you don't want him after the year, he can be cut with no cap hit. I don't see teams trying to acquire him and redo his deal that could hurt their future cap if he cant stay healthy. I do believe there will be a team willing to gamble on his health, give up some type of pick, and commit to paying him $14 million this year with nothing guaranteed after that.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Unless he is willing to take $5-6m AAV then pass. I doubt he is willing to do that.

The spending power you gain in 2018 and 2019 from just cutting him is worth more than keeping him around at a high cost.

Now that there are multiple teams that are expressing interest in one way or another I think we are going to have our cake and eat it too. In recent NFL history, teams regularly spend more than they should for QBs in a bidding war.

 

[Nightman]

I'm not even sure the league would approve a provision in a contract that has $20 million become guaranteed by the new team if traded, but lets assume they would. Talk about killing Romo's trade value! No one would trade for him if upon doing so, they owe him $20 million fully guaranteed. His current appeal is that $14 million is cheap for a QB of his caliber and if he gets hurt or you don't want him after the year, he can be cut with no cap hit. I don't see teams trying to acquire him and redo his deal that could hurt their future cap if he cant stay healthy. I do believe there will be a team willing to gamble on his health, give up some type of pick, and commit to paying him $14 million this year with nothing guaranteed after that.

The point is that Romo has to be considered in this equation

This is an attempt to find a solution that helps DAL and Romo, not his new team

The 20m guaranteed is only 6m more than he is due now.......any team that is trading for him is willing to spend the 14m no problem.....the extra 6m is an incentive for Romo to play ball

It might hurt his trade value a little but not much and it gives DAL instant cap relief