Newman as a backup

[gimmesix]

I doubt this would happen, but if Terence Newman wanted to finish his career as a Cowboy and was willing to restructure his deal to where he was making backup money, would you think Dallas should do it?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

We may not have a choice. I think he's better then our 4th CB but I don't know that he would want to go through an entire season for 4th CB money.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Boy, he'd been bad two seasons in a row now. And the last game vs the Giants was trule a debacle. The guy played well earlier on in the season. He seems to struggle with his confidence much more so than when he was younger. He can probably give the team good downs for a limited time but asking him to play 700 snaps a season or more just wouldn't work.

I doubt he would take the massive pay cut the Cowboys would require for him to stick around.

 

[Bowdown27]

No I don't want him anywhere near our roster. He's done and it showed towards the end of the season I.e victor Cruz long touchdown

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Nah, that almost never happens. If he's going to get cut and make much less, he'll go somewhere else where he can get a fresh start.

BTW, who else wouldn't be surprised to see him go somewhere else and do decently as a nickel corner with a reduced role?

 

[ufcrules1]

Wow.. I'm shocked Newman's name is even been spoken here with relation to the Cowboys. There is NO WAY in the world he will be on this team next year. He is TERRIBLE and is DONE. I feel like I'm in the twighlights zone instead of the Cowboys Zone.

 

[gimmesix]

We may not have a choice. I think he's better then our 4th CB but I don't know that he would want to go through an entire season for 4th CB money.

That's kind of where I'm coming from. Newman is better than Ball or Walker and we need depth at the position.

If he would take a severe cut to be that depth, I'd be OK with that (or at least having him compete for the job with some youngsters).

I don't think he'll do that, but I'd rather have a depth chart of New Starter, Jenkins, Scandrick and Newman than New Starter, Jenkins, Scandrick and Ball.

 

[Oh_Canada]

Wow.. I'm shocked Newman's name is even been spoken here with relation to the Cowboys. There is NO WAY in the world he will be on this team next year. He is TERRIBLE and is DONE. I feel like I'm in the twighlights zone instead of the Cowboys Zone.

Couldn't agree more...even worse than his crappy play on the field, I sense the guy isn't much of a leader either. That's a bad combo....good riddance.

 

[realtick]

Nah...........no heck nawwwwww.......

It appears some folks have forgotten how horrendous T-New was at the end of the season.

Please watch the video in my signature and have a moment of sobriety.

 

[RS12]

Every year same non sense, hey lets hang on to so and so (who lost it two years ago) as a back up.

 

[Aven8]

IMO he's not done and can't contribute anymore. But it won't be for us or as a starter in this league. Bradie James is done IMO. I'm not sure he offers anything else to any team even as a part timer. Brooks got more playing time then him and played better overall.

Age showed itself really quickly for these 3 and I'm sure the lockout hurt, but again we need to get better at releasing these guys a year early like the Pats, and Iggles if we want to be successful.

 

[gimmesix]

IMO he's not done and can't contribute anymore. But it won't be for us or as a starter in this league. Bradie James is done IMO. I'm not sure he offers anything else to any team even as a part timer. Brooks got more playing time then him and played better overall.

Age showed itself really quickly for these 3 and I'm sure the lockout hurt, but again we need to get better at releasing these guys a year early like the Pats, and Iggles if we want to be successful.

I do agree that Newman is done as a starter. His health troubles, especially, have taken that role away from him.

But I do think he can be a more effective backup than the guys we have for that role. (I'm talking about the fourth corner spot.)

I never understand why some people look at a player's failures as a starter and degrade him to the point where he is worse than the backup options on the team.

The best thing Dallas could do is find young corners to replace them all (Newman, Ball, Walker), but desiring to do that and being able to do that are entirely different things.

 

[SDCowboy]

Why in the world would he want to finish his career here when he go go somewhere else and make more money?

 

[durrrr]

but I'd rather have a depth chart of New Starter, Jenkins, Scandrick and Newman than New Starter, Jenkins, Scandrick and Ball.

There are literally dozens of rookies and free agents that would be better than Newman and cost less money, even if he agreed to a significant pay cut.

 

[The Natural]

I doubt this would happen, but if Terence Newman wanted to finish his career as a Cowboy and was willing to restructure his deal to where he was making backup money, would you think Dallas should do it?

Only way Newman is finishing his career as a Cowboy is on one of them 1 day contracts players sign when they want to finish their career with a team.

 

[Cowboys&LakersFan]

Hell to the no.

 

[realtick]

I do agree that Newman is done as a starter. His health troubles, especially, have taken that role away from him.

But I do think he can be a more effective backup than the guys we have for that role. (I'm talking about the fourth corner spot.)

I never understand why some people look at a player's failures as a starter and degrade him to the point where he is worse than the backup options on the team.

The best thing Dallas could do is find young corners to replace them all (Newman, Ball, Walker), but desiring to do that and being able to do that are entirely different things.

Arguing the worth of Newman playing as a starter or as a fourth corner is missing the point. It's his play in general that's the problem. Getting moved to a smaller role doesn't mean he won't be covering wide receivers. How can he be more effective? He'll still be targeted by QBs and opposing OCs.

If it was just an issue of health, then yes, a smaller role would be in order. Again though, the problem is his ability to play corner.

 

[gimmesix]

Arguing the worth of Newman playing as a starter or as a fourth corner is missing the point. It's his play in general that's the problem. Getting moved to a smaller role doesn't mean he won't be covering wide receivers. How can he be more effective? He'll still be targeted by QBs and opposing OCs.

If it was just an issue of health, then yes, a smaller role would be in order. Again though, the problem is his ability to play corner.

I think you have to look at it, though, relative to the ability of the other corners on the roster. Is their ability to play corner better than Newman's? I don't think we can say that about Ball or Walker. Newman will get beat; they will get beat more.

Now, the ideal would be to upgrade all of them, but I don't think that will happen. If we had to keep one of the three I'd prefer Newman, but this is just a hypothetical since he's not liable to take a drastic pay cut to stay in Dallas.

 

[gimmesix]

There are literally dozens of rookies and free agents that would be better than Newman and cost less money, even if he agreed to a significant pay cut.

That's easy to say, but it doesn't make it true.

Look, there's no doubt that Newman didn't get it done last season. I'm not defending his play. What I'm looking at is his play relative to backups on the roster ... and I have no doubt that I would rather keep him than Ball or Walker.

Now if some rookie or cheap free agent were to come in and beat him out in this scenario, I would have no problem with it. But Dallas needs to keep its best depth if possible until it can replace that depth with better depth, and right now, Newman is the third-best corner on this roster.

 

[gimmesix]

Why in the world would he want to finish his career here when he go go somewhere else and make more money?

Not sure that he will make more money elsewhere. I don't see anyone considering him as anything more than a vet backup at this point. I don't think Newman sees himself that way, though.

I do think he'll play better in that role, if he accepts it, than some believe. He won't be on the field as much so there's a better chance of him staying healthy. And he'll probably end up at most playing in the nickel against the other team's third-best receiver.