NFL Close to Rule Barring Return After Concussion

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Would think the possibility that a player would deliberately head hunt because of this possible new rule would also have been discussed. There's already penalties to the team if one of their players hits the QB of the opposing team on the head. If it's seen as deliberate, it not impossible player causing the deliberate injury could miss same number of games as injuried player, incur a hefty fine or even more severe punishment.
 

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people will just start faking the injury as something else. these guys want to play.
 

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zeroburrito;3109432 said:
people will just start faking the injury as something else. these guys want to play.

It is hard to fake a concussion - it is obvious when you're not quite there to anyone who is trained to assess these things. The concussed will lack the insight to be able to fake their condition.
 

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Eskimo;3109443 said:
It is hard to fake a concussion - it is obvious when you're not quite there to anyone who is trained to assess these things. The concussed will lack the insight to be able to fake their condition.

if they get dazed in a game they may not be allowed to continue though right(since it would be a head injury, the league may force them to sit the game, unless it's concussions only)? they could just pretend it's their leg or something, then get back in the game when the daze fades. wasn't talking about them actually getting a concussion.
 

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zeroburrito;3109472 said:
if they get dazed in a game they may not be allowed to continue though right(since it would be a head injury, the league may force them to sit the game, unless it's concussions only)? they could just pretend it's their leg or something, then get back in the game when the daze fades. wasn't talking about them actually getting a concussion.

I'm willing to bet you've never had a concussion.

They won't be pretending its their leg. I had one and couldn't remember where I parked my truck for almost a week. I didn't even remember going to the hospital the next day. Dad asked me when I got home why I had the hospital bracelet on. I couldn't remember.

That "daze" doesn't fade. Not by a **** sight. Just ask Troy if he remembers all of his Super Bowls.

I do NOT want any part of going up against a dirty player like Jared Allen then. He's been a knee attacking cruise missile for years. Now if he picks you up on an tackle and slams your head down on the concrete/turf he's ended your day. He might get ejected, but knocking out a QB is a much larger loss to the offense.

Players may try to make a conscious effort to keep their heads down when coming onto the sideline to mask the injury during the game (I really don't see how they could remember to do so), but a roster-wide mandatory check up after the game would pick up even the most mild concussions.

A player out for a concussion should provide his team with an automatic provisional roster spot exemption for as long as necessary. If the NFL is using league-paid impartial neurologists, then the teams cannot abuse the rule as Belichick was known to do with players on his injured reserve list.
 

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zeroburrito;3109472 said:
if they get dazed in a game they may not be allowed to continue though right(since it would be a head injury, the league may force them to sit the game, unless it's concussions only)? they could just pretend it's their leg or something, then get back in the game when the daze fades. wasn't talking about them actually getting a concussion.

those who are "dazed" probably do have concussions and should be removed for the remainder of the game as there is more and more data emerging on the dangers of multiple concussions that occur close together in time.

This is different than those who are "winded" or in agony from some pain in their bodies.
 

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zeroburrito;3109472 said:
if they get dazed in a game they may not be allowed to continue though right(since it would be a head injury, the league may force them to sit the game, unless it's concussions only)? they could just pretend it's their leg or something, then get back in the game when the daze fades. wasn't talking about them actually getting a concussion.

Ah, that's different. Supposedly you can tell immediately from the eyes of a concussed individual if they've just got their bell rung or have a true concussion. You can get knocked a little loopy and be fine pretty quick.

It's kinda like a little stress head ache versus a migraine. One you pop an Advil and get on with your day. The other, you can read it in the person's face. Everything about them changes in a hurry on a bad migraine. Facial expressions, eyes glaze over, response time can be limited, SEVERE issues with light and sound....
 

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...hope that the league would put some weight behind this issue with fines and suspensions to prevent those who are concussed and those who are delivering head blows from continuing any behavior contrary to what the league is trying to control.

If there is any real or perceived attempt to injure a player I would hope the commissioner would step in and take care of business.

His reign as top cop has been fairly harsh at the start of his tenure. It would contradictory if he didn't carry on consistently with the issue of concussions.
 

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AdamJT13;3108941 said:
I'm sure a rule like this would lead to players covering up any head injuries whatsoever, which would have the opposite effect from what the rule would be designed to do. Anyone who was hit hard in the head and felt woozy would just make up another injury so they could go back in the game when they feel OK.

If any head injury at all would knock a player out of the game for good, I could see defenders going for a quarterback's head (or other star players' heads) early in the game. It would be worth a 15-yard penalty early in the first quarter to knock a Pro Bowl quarterback or other offensive weapon out of the game for good.

If a player would cover up a head injury then he's an idiot anyway and deserves the potential brain damage.

The whole point here is to convince players that head injuries are no laughing matter. Covering them up or playing through them doesn't prove you are a tough guy, it proves you are a moron.

Playing football for 5 or so years isn't worth risking your health for the rest of your life.

However, from what I've read the determination is made by the doctors, and they have taken an oath to be honest so I don't see how you're going to cover up a head injury by grabbing your calf and then drunkenly stumble off the field and think no one is the wiser.

In generally football players are stupid, they will play with a head injury, especially when young, but it's up to the doctors really to ensure these things are enforced. You should never ask a player if they think they can play, they'll always say yes.
 

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davidyee;3109573 said:
...hope that the league would put some weight behind this issue with fines and suspensions to prevent those who are concussed and those who are delivering head blows from continuing any behavior contrary to what the league is trying to control.

If there is any real or perceived attempt to injure a player I would hope the commissioner would step in and take care of business.

His reign as top cop has been fairly harsh at the start of his tenure. It would contradictory if he didn't carry on consistently with the issue of concussions.

Yeah, the way I see it that would mean you'd have to up the penalties for head blows, possibly ejecting a player who has more than a set number of penalties for them called against him per season.
 
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