NFL.com: 2007 All-Underrated Team (Guess which Cowboy Made the Team)

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superpunk;1532850 said:
You just can't help yourself. It's subconscious. I think it has to do with wanting to have sex with your mother. Ask Sigmund.

Nothing I said was a defense - I'm just amused at what is attributed to the ex-coach now that he's gone.

Julius was average - Parcells held him back.

Newman wasn't getting DAP - Parcells was keeping Jerry from spreading propaganda

PacMan makes it rain - Parcells has tits.

That was the point of the obi-Wan thing. Parcells is gone/struck down, and he's become more powerful than I could ever imagine.
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big dog cowboy;1532868 said:
If TNew could have made a statement on punt returns like taking on all the way he would get more face time.

He did take one all the way.
 

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theogt;1532748 said:
Terence Newman, CB, Cowboys -- It should be a crime that Newman has yet to be elected to the Pro Bowl, particularly after his masterful 2006 season. In an era when cornerbacks rarely hold their own in downfield coverage, Newman regularly wins one-on-one matchups in the deep sector of the field, so much so that teams rarely even throw at him anymore ... hurting his interception totals. Newman's ability to match up one-on-one with the opposition's best receiver also allows safety Roy Williams to do the freelancing he does (which incidentally gets him voted to the Pro Bowl and keeps Newman out). Newman is simply one of the best in the game and should be regarded as such.
Wow, it's really nice to finally see someone in the media put this painfully obvious fact in print.

You can't get interceptions if they're not throwing at you.

Maybe the pro bowl voters will wake up next year.
 

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theogt;1532748 said:
Kris Dielman, G, Chargers -- The Chargers wisely came through with a big contract for Dielman this offseason, keeping one of the cornerstones of their offensive line in town for the foreseeable future. Fans will be certain to hear more of his name in the coming seasons.

Umm. Kris Dielman has a front loaded contract (paying $8.5M a year) that pays him more than Leonard Davis. ($7M a year) He got that taking a discount to stay in Charger land. Underrated? :rolleyes:
 

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nyc;1533129 said:
Umm. Kris Dielman has a front loaded contract (paying $8.5M a year) that pays him more than Leonard Davis. ($7M a year) He got that taking a discount to stay in Charger land. Underrated? :rolleyes:

Underrated doesn't mean underpaid.

His point is that Dielman doesn't get much recognition from fans, other than when talking about free agency/contracts.

No one talks about his good play....

Making him underrated.
 

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Vintage;1533135 said:
Underrated doesn't mean underpaid.

His point is that Dielman doesn't get much recognition from fans, other than when talking about free agency/contracts.

No one talks about his good play....

Making him underrated.

I think fat contracts speak volumes. Just because ignorant fans don't know any better doesn't mean he is underrated. It's just like Newman. The people who count know. Those who don't (fans) are meaningless. 80% of the time, fans must be told who is good and who isn't. The other 20% are players like LT, Manning, etc. From what I've noted (living outside of the Dallas area) is that people know who DeMarcus Ware is and they know he is good, but when I talk to them about Ware, they know nothing except what the media has told them.

If Newman was truely underrated, they would throw more balls towards him. He is just relatively unknown to the media.
 

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nyc;1533138 said:
I think fat contracts speak volumes. Just because ignorant fans don't know any better doesn't mean he is underrated. It's just like Newman. The people who count know. Those who don't (fans) are meaningless. 80% of the time, fans must be told who is good and who isn't. The other 20% are players like LT, Manning, etc. From what I've noted (living outside of the Dallas area) is that people know who DeMarcus Ware is and they know he is good, but when I talk to them about Ware, they know nothing except what the media has told them.

In an attempt to help change that, I'm presenting my All-Underrated team for public consumption.


Public consumption.... as in an underrated list for the public, based on what the public thinks.

I am guessing that up until the Dielman signing, the general public did not know who Dielman was or if he was very good. Then the signing happened. They still don't know if he was good enough.

The writer is saying "yeah, he's good....and it goes unnoticed by many."

Just because he signed a large contract doesn't mean his play gets much attention by the general public. It means NFL GMs/scouts/etc think highly of him, but it has no reflection on the general public.

Hence, why the writer included him.

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And yeah, the general public outside of Dallas doesn't know much about Newman or Ware other than what the media tells them. But you can say that about any team and its players outside of their local fans.

Ware and Newman are not special in that regard.
 
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