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Goodell: Winning is compromise


http://nfllabor.com/2011/05/20/goodell-winning-is-compromise/#more-5431


With all due respect to Vince Lombardi, winning isn’t everything – at least in negotiations. Both sides may not win every point, but by compromising on issues, they can come to an agreement that benefits everyone.

Granted, the NFL CBA negotiations of 2011 pale historically to “The Great Compromise” of 1787 which led to equal representation in the Senate and proportional representation in the House of Representatives. Virginia had proposed representation based on a state’s population, while New Jersey had proposed on behalf of the smaller states equal representation. A log-jam ensued until both sides worked together and agreed to what was called “The Great Compromise,” thus creating the structure of representation that has been in place for more than 220 years.

Now back to the future with another call to compromise. In a conference call with Detroit Lions season ticket holders this week, Goodell described how an agreement with the players will be reached and what a win will look like.

“Win, to me,” he said, “is when all parties compromise and all parties get what they need, not what they want. That is what we need to get back to doing. That is why this is only going to happen through a negotiation. Hopefully, we have been clear about the priorities we have for the game and how we are going to continue to grow this game.”...
 
The Players do not want to compromise at all; that is why they went to court.
 
I'll start this one off...

When undertaking solutions in the midst of conflict, it takes a trust and work to arrive at compromise. No matter the actual or implied posturing that occurs at the completion of a ferdict based upon a filed brief and litigation, it still takes working past the applied penalties and arriving at a reasonable remedy that is negotiated more upon need, and not just desire.

This specific article addressed the compromise that was arrived at during the State's work at arriving at the manner that a Federal Government was to be legislated. Large populated states wanted more power and a population requirement, and the smaller states wanted equal representation. They compromised and we now have two bodies that contain the reponsibility for legislation and the formation of law. The judicial process then proceeded to add upon that law and expand it's use.

That is fine and good. But the final resolution as it is with the current lockout and litigation period, will require a meeting of minds and working to a solution.

This takes trust, and not proceeds from either side getting a punitive action with regards to past actions. It takes a cooler head's approach and not an unending series of not trying to meet at some common and functional grounds.

This will be the solution here...and I'm not going to be the one calling names at Goodell, because he at least is doing is due diligence to bring together the two sides and peacefully arrive at a solution. I hope that his support increases, as well as fan support joins him in his efforts as well.
 
burmafrd;3955523 said:
The Players do not want to compromise at all; that is why they went to court.

Good morning, burma...it's my Silver Anniversary today. :starspin
 
CCBoy;3955525 said:
I'll start this one off...

When undertaking solutions in the midst of conflict, it takes a trust and work to arrive at compromise. No matter the actual or implied posturing that occurs at the completion of a ferdict based upon a filed brief and litigation, it still takes working past the applied penalties and arriving at a reasonable remedy that is negotiated more upon need, and not just desire.

This specific article addressed the compromise that was arrived at during the State's work at arriving at the manner that a Federal Government was to be legislated. Large populated states wanted more power and a population requirement, and the smaller states wanted equal representation. They compromised and we now have two bodies that contain the reponsibility for legislation and the formation of law. The judicial process then proceeded to add upon that law and expand it's use.

That is fine and good. But the final resolution as it is with the current lockout and litigation period, will require a meeting of minds and working to a solution.

This takes trust, and not proceeds from either side getting a punitive action with regards to past actions. It takes a cooler head's approach and not an unending series of not trying to meet at some common and functional grounds.

This will be the solution here...and I'm not going to be the one calling names at Goodell, because he at least is doing is due diligence to bring together the two sides and peacefully arrive at a solution. I hope that his support increases, as well as fan support joins him in his efforts as well.


Why won't the breakfast scrap a laid endeavor? A banner declines underneath the piece! Near the hacking estate advances the legal conservative. My alphabet shouts inside the barred soldier. A studio fears a law without the constant snack. When can the battery cry? The stiff surrounds a suggested alcoholic. Another cassette stacks the mutual specimen above the shorthand. The extremist lunch colors before the servant.
 
tupperware;3955716 said:
Why won't the breakfast scrap a laid endeavor? A banner declines underneath the piece! Near the hacking estate advances the legal conservative. My alphabet shouts inside the barred soldier. A studio fears a law without the constant snack. When can the battery cry? The stiff surrounds a suggested alcoholic. Another cassette stacks the mutual specimen above the shorthand. The extremist lunch colors before the servant.

:lmao2:
 
burmafrd;3955523 said:
The Players do not want to compromise at all; that is why they went to court.
Amen to that.
Demaurice Smith wants to win the negotiation instead of compromising. I believe he had his own agenda of getting this into court all along. When the owners gave them proposals he went with the "I want to see every team's books" gripe until the players had to de-certify before it was too late to do so. The players thought de-certification was the best chance to get back to football but make no mistake Smith led them to this choice.
I really think the players made a huge mistake of hiring Smith to lead them in the first place. He has brought this into the courts which he believes in right in his wheelhouse because of his lawyer background but he never had any intention of negotiating before they went to the courts. JMO
 
“Win, to me,” he said, “is when all parties compromise and all parties get what they need, not what they want. That is what we need to get back to doing. That is why this is only going to happen through a negotiation. Hopefully, we have been clear about the priorities we have for the game and how we are going to continue to grow this game.”...
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tupperware;3955716 said:
Why won't the breakfast scrap a laid endeavor? A banner declines underneath the piece! Near the hacking estate advances the legal conservative. My alphabet shouts inside the barred soldier. A studio fears a law without the constant snack. When can the battery cry? The stiff surrounds a suggested alcoholic. Another cassette stacks the mutual specimen above the shorthand. The extremist lunch colors before the servant.

Outstanding.

:bow:
 
tupperware;3955716 said:
Why won't the breakfast scrap a laid endeavor? A banner declines underneath the piece! Near the hacking estate advances the legal conservative. My alphabet shouts inside the barred soldier. A studio fears a law without the constant snack. When can the battery cry? The stiff surrounds a suggested alcoholic. Another cassette stacks the mutual specimen above the shorthand. The extremist lunch colors before the servant.

Stick to your tupperware and stay out of dinner clubs....as to football discussions, they usually are lame. Other than that, carry on....jester of the class. Ooops, Homeroom Clown. Seek out a recruitor quickly.

Seriously, which do you prefer...pork or beef? And HOW DO YOU DO YOUR EGGS?
 
Hoofbite;3955814 said:
Outstanding.

:bow:

I thought you were complaining on too little room around the 'ol burn barrell. And the Ripple running low...:D
 
J-DOG;3955752 said:
Amen to that.
Demaurice Smith wants to win the negotiation instead of compromising. I believe he had his own agenda of getting this into court all along. When the owners gave them proposals he went with the "I want to see every team's books" gripe until the players had to de-certify before it was too late to do so. The players thought de-certification was the best chance to get back to football but make no mistake Smith led them to this choice.
I really think the players made a huge mistake of hiring Smith to lead them in the first place. He has brought this into the courts which he believes in right in his wheelhouse because of his lawyer background but he never had any intention of negotiating before they went to the courts. JMO

I think that the court attempting to declare when a business should be required to open it's doors for business with a class of workers already in the top five percent of the country is assenine to begin with. That should be addressed specificly in legislation and the courts be directed to pass on that type of intrusion directly into business. Cost of business, plainly and simply, is a real issue for any ownership. Here, it's streining mightily to include terms of any kind of deprivation and market irresponsibility as well.
 
The Appeals Court should flat out say that the law as written and intended does not apply in this case. These laws were intended to prevent large corporations from trampling on the little guys. As long as your front men are making millions of dollars a year they are not little guys. The Appeals court should charge Congress with making laws that apply to sports and entertainment industry.
 
burmafrd;3955901 said:
The Appeals Court should flat out say that the law as written and intended does not apply in this case. These laws were intended to prevent large corporations from trampling on the little guys. As long as your front men are making millions of dollars a year they are not little guys. The Appeals court should charge Congress with making laws that apply to sports and entertainment industry.

:hammer: :hammer: :hammer:

You may now insert ONE, fifteen round magaine, and Firers, watch YOUR lanes...;)
 

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