NFL.com Mock Draft Vic Carucci 2.0

[Zimmy Lives]

Oh.........no comment.

My mama taught me if you can't say anything nice don't day anything at all......

My mama said, "Speak yo mine, Boy," so I say this mock ducks! :bang2:

 

[alancdc]

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/profile.php?pyid=56933

Check out his projected round.

I was wondering why his name wasn't ringing a bell with me. So, he is projected in the 3rd, but we will take him in the 1st? Interesting. Thanks for the link.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I really like Justin King. The kid is a great talent and blazing fast. He is a development player though. He would be a damn good pick as long as he had time to develop. King will be a starting CB in this league, just probably not as a rookie.

Considering we have our starting CBs next season, I wouldn't be overly upset by drafting King. It would depend on who was still on the board when we took him.

 

[LucaBrasi]

He went to high school near me and played at PSU obviously. I can't imagine there is a better athlete at corner in this draft, even DRC, but it never translated to the field for King. I've said previously, I don't know if it was scheme, coaching, or King's fault. I wouldn't mind drafting him, but not in the first round.
That being said where was Quincy Carter projected to go? Jerry doesn't seem to mind drafting a guy a full 2 rounds ahead of where he's projected. Hopefully those days are long gone.

 

[YosemiteSam]

StanleySpadowski,

I agree completely. I think this kid is going to be very good in this league. Speed wise, to say he is fast falls short. (4.31 40 @ Combine) King ran down Rashard Mendenhall from behind who just happen to run a 4.45 40 at the combine.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Both those players could be available in the 2nd round.

 

[TheCount]

King's the best corner in this draft.

The two biggest critiques of him are that he isn't physical and failed to make big plays.

Watch some 2006 film then compare it to 2007. He was more than physical when he manned up on Ginn and Meachum and shut them down. Then he injured his shoulder early in 2007. The shoulder apparently passed the combine physical and guys like Kiper are moving him back up into the first.

A lot of average fans were down on him after Hardy had a big game but failed to realize that Penn State spent a majority of the game in their lame cover-2 so when Hardy was sitting in a zone, fans were blaming the first/closest defender which was usually King. Tom Bradley admitted that it was a coaching issue rather than an issue with King's play.

Another small factor that hurt King in the eyes of the average fan was the "unofficial" times Eisen was giving at the combine. Rogers-Cromartie wowed everyone with an alleged 4.27 and became the talk of message boarddom. Turns out he wasn't the fastest corner when the "official" times rolled around, King was.

As far as his lack of big plays, there's really no disputing that other than to say Penn State historically hasn't put its corners in position to be playmakers but when he did touch the ball offensively in '05, he was electric. Plus Newman hasn't made a lot of big plays for the Cowboys but I wouldn't trade him for any other corner in the NFL.

King made a terrible choice in schools to play for in regards to his pro prospects. He needed to be somewhere that would showcase his skills and he's a top five possibility.

So basically you think he's the best, but have absolutely no facts to back it up other than placing the blame on the world around him?

 

[THUMPER]

Vic Carucci hates the Cowboys obviously. Is a choke hold embracing the hatred?

How about a thumb to the eye?

 

[YosemiteSam]

So basically you think he's the best, but have absolutely no facts to back it up other than placing the blame on the world around him?

My opinion is he is going to be pretty damn good when it's all said and done. What I mean by that is he very well could end up being the best CB to come out of this years draft.

Now, that by no means says he *IS* the best CB in the draft. I think he is less developed than some of the others at this point. Without question though, there is a valid possibility his ceiling is higher than any of the other CBs in the draft. DRC is the other I believe could have the highest ceiling. In the first round, I take McKelvin or DRC before King though. They, I believe are more ready to take the field. I'm not sure King is even ready to be a 3rd cornor.

Of course as with any draft prospects, there is always the possibility of him being a bust.

 

[Doctor32]

Both those players could be available in the 2nd round.

That is the key. #22 is far too long of a reach for King.

 

[YosemiteSam]

That is the key. #22 is far too long of a reach for King.

...and by the 59th pick, he will be long gone.

 

[StanleySpadowski]

My opinion is he is going to be pretty damn good when it's all said and done. What I mean by that is he very well could end up being the best CB to come out of this years draft.

Now, that by no means says he *IS* the best CB in the draft. I think he is less developed than some of the others at this point. Without question though, there is a valid possibility his ceiling is higher than any of the other CBs in the draft. DRC is the other I believe could have the highest ceiling. In the first round, I take McKelvin or DRC before King though. They, I believe are more ready to take the field. I'm not sure King is even ready to be a 3rd cornor.

Of course as with any draft prospects, there is always the possibility of him being a bust.

I don't understand where the "less developed" argument comes from. He started for two seasons in the Big 10.

I do agree that Rogers-Cromartie also has a high ceiling but the basis for most of my opinions come from studying players going against NFL caliber competition. I couldn't care less that a player dominates a future insurance salesman, I want to see what he does against other players who'll have NFL careers. Unfortunately there's very little film of that on him so he's very difficult to get a good read on. I've also heard a few rumblings of some personal issues with him but I haven't confirmed any of them.

I was one of the few who had Aaron Ross as the best corner in last year's draft. A lot of even the most ardent Longhorn proponents were down on him for some reason and there was bashing when the Giants selected him. It's difficult to base a projection on only his rookie year but it seems as though my opinion has been justified.

I saw where you quoted someone who wanted "facts". Facts are great if the draft was an exact science where a ratio of measurables to statistics yielded an accurate result. It's not, it's an artfom where science such as measurables come into play. Throw in the unknowns such as injuries and it really is a crap shoot.

 

[GhettoxCowboy]

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22. Dallas Cowboys

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(From Cleveland)​

Justin King​

CB, Penn State

King's speed and athleticism provide a very workable foundation for the Cowboys to utilize at a position of need.

Previous mock pick: Leodis McKelvin​

28. Dallas Cowboys​

Felix Jones
RB, Arkansas
Jones might not be the Arkansas running back the Cowboys hoped to get, but trading up to land McFadden is too costly, both in terms of draft picks and guaranteed dollars for the more prominent Razorback. The Cowboys won't be disappointed with the other one, though. He should make an immediate impact as a runner and pass-catcher.​

Previous mock pick: Felix Jones​

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If we gonna take a CB with the 1st pick, i rather us take McKelvin, the guy looks like a shutdown CB..

 

[Doctor32]

I fwe gonna take a CB with the 1st pick, i rather us take McKelvin, the guy looks like a shutdown CB..

Carucci had him off of the board at #7 to New England.
It makes more sense as the Draft approaches that they draft that kid, and re-sign Ty Law to make up for their losses in Free Agency.

 

[GhettoxCowboy]

Carucci had him off of the board at #7 to New England.
It makes more sense as the Draft approaches that they draft that kid, and re-sign Ty Law to make up for their losses in Free Agency.

NE wants to re-sign Law back? well that makes sense for them..That cromartie guy looks solid also..

 

[ctrous25]

My mama said, "Speak yo mine, Boy," so I say this mock ducks! :bang2:

:laugh2:

 

[ctrous25]

If we gonna take a CB with the 1st pick, i rather us take McKelvin, the guy looks like a shutdown CB..

McKelvin is gonna be good

from what little ive seen he has great ball skills

 

[ctrous25]

This will change alot more between now and the actual draft.

oh no doubt


I havent seen too many that I really like so far though

 

[YosemiteSam]

I don't understand where the "less developed" argument comes from. He started for two seasons in the Big 10.

I do agree that Rogers-Cromartie also has a high ceiling but the basis for most of my opinions come from studying players going against NFL caliber competition. I couldn't care less that a player dominates a future insurance salesman, I want to see what he does against other players who'll have NFL careers. Unfortunately there's very little film of that on him so he's very difficult to get a good read on. I've also heard a few rumblings of some personal issues with him but I haven't confirmed any of them.

I was one of the few who had Aaron Ross as the best corner in last year's draft. A lot of even the most ardent Longhorn proponents were down on him for some reason and there was bashing when the Giants selected him. It's difficult to base a projection on only his rookie year but it seems as though my opinion has been justified.

I saw where you quoted someone who wanted "facts". Facts are great if the draft was an exact science where a ratio of measurables to statistics yielded an accurate result. It's not, it's an artfom where science such as measurables come into play. Throw in the unknowns such as injuries and it really is a crap shoot.

The less developed agument is my opinion. I think other CB in the draft are more polished in their techniques. I think he needs more time like many other draft choices have needed. You never know, sometimes it click somwhere betwen their last college game and the start of the season. Guys come out and play great. I don't think he is going to come out like that. I think he is going to need some time.

For the record, I felt Darrelle Revis was the best CB coming out last year. Of course, I felt Ross needed more development. He ended up doing pretty well with 1.5 sacks, 3 INTs, 11PDs while playing in fifteen games and starting nine of them.