News: NFL Draft 2017: Finding Playmaking Defensive Ends Based On Their College Production

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NFL Draft 2017: Finding Playmaking Defensive Ends Based On Their College Production

http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2017...ensive-ends-based-on-their-college-production




...PRODUCTION RATIO = (SACKS + TACKLES FOR LOSS) / NUMBER OF GAMES PLAYED




The resulting number gives you a metric with which to evaluate a player's playmaking ability, even if it isn't a one-to-one measure of the frequency of splash plays (sacks or tackles-for-loss) a player recorded per game. That's because officially, a sack also counts as a tackle for loss, so adding up the two numbers is a bit of double-counting. But in terms of the Production Ratio as originally described by Pat Kirwan, sacks plus the total number of TFLs go into the formula.

The ratio is usually calculated over the entire college career of a prospect, but that method can be inaccurate because not every prospect has a four-year career in college. To correct for that, we'll only look at the last two seasons of a player's college career. For the two-year measure, a number above 1.5 is often indicative of premier talent for a pass rusher, a value above 2.0 can be indicative of elite talent.

But before we look at the defensive ends in the 2017 draft class, I'm going to take a little detour. Last week, Daniel Jeremiah of NFL.com published his first mock draft of the year, and had the Cowboys picking a pass rusher in Takkarist McKinley.

The Cowboys need pass rushers; they can no longer rely on Randy Gregory. McKinley has double-digit sack potential.

"Double-digit sack potential" is a term that's liberally thrown around in the lead-up to the draft, but just because it's an over-used term doesn't make it any truer. But it does reflect the unrealistic expectations many fans have about pass rushers in the draft. I know almost nothing about Takkarist McKinley, but I can state with almost absolute certainty that McKinley will not be a double-digit sack player in the NFL.

Why? Because double-digit sack players are exceedingly rare. Of all the edge rushers drafted in the six drafts between 2010 and 2015, only four have managed to average 10 sacks per year. The table below shows the top pass rushers (DEs/OLBs as ranked by sacks per year) drafted between 2010 and 2015 and includes each player's Production Ratio.

Top Edge Rushers drafted 2010-2015
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Rnd (Pick) Tm Player Pos Total Sacks Sacks/Year Prod Ratio
2011 1 (11) HOU J.J. Watt DE 76 12.7 1.85
2011 1 (2) DEN Von Miller LB 73.5 12.3 2.52
2014 1 (5) OAK Khalil Mack LB 30 10.0 2.40
2011 3 (70) KAN Justin Houston LB 60 10.0 2.28
2011 1 (16) WAS Ryan Kerrigan DE 58.5 9.8 2.77
2015 1 (8) ATL Vic Beasley LB 19.5 9.8 2.67
2012 1 (21) NWE Chandler Jones DE 47 9.4 1.28
2015 3 (88) MIN Danielle Hunter DE 18.5 9.3 0.98
2011 1 (14) STL Robert Quinn DE 54 9.0 2.31
2015 2 (58) ARI Markus Golden DE 16.5 8.3 1.83
2013 1 (5) DET Ezekiel Ansah DE 32 8.0 0.70
2011 1 (7) SFO Aldon Smith DE 47.5 7.9 1.96
2011 1 (24) NOR Cameron Jordan DE 46.5 7.8 1.34
2012 1 (26) HOU Whitney Mercilus DE 37.5 7.5 1.63
2012 3 (72) MIA Olivier Vernon LB 37.5 7.5 1.13
2010 1 (15) NYG Jason Pierre-Paul DE 50 7.1 1.61 ...
 

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Does that mean we give up on finding a pass rusher? I don't get it ...
 

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Does that mean we give up on finding a pass rusher? I don't get it ...
It means you need to do some Math

Taco = 23.5 +14 = 37.5/22
Taco = 1.7

Soloman Tomas = 24.5+12=36.5/26
ST=1.4

Myles Garrett = 20 + 34.5 = 54.5/23
Garrett = 2.37

Charles Harris = 16+30.5 =46.5/24
Harris = 1.94

Tkk Mckinley = 39/24 = 1.625
 
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Derek Barnett = 2.15

Carl Lawson = 1.3

Tim Williams = 1.47
 

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Wish somebody had the time to go through the college games played and deduct the production against out of conference cream puffs like Myles Garrett's 4.5 sacks against UTSA. That revised metric against better competition might be a more realistic figure.

EDIT: Not ragging on Garrett since he played hurt all year long with an ankle injury, usually double teamed and teams often ran to the other side. Just saying some additional scrutiny should be placed on a player's production.
 
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Can someone do some more of the players, like the ones likely to also be available in the 2nd? I would but I don't follow college football or I would.
 

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It's not a great metric but it's about the best you can do given we don't have number of pass rush attempts. You could spend the time putting together opponent pass attempts but that'd be too much effort.
 

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Wish somebody had the time to go through the college games played and deduct the production against out of conference cream puffs like Myles Garrett's 4.5 sacks against UTSA. That revised metric against better competition might be a more realistic figure.

EDIT: Not ragging on Garrett since he played hurt all year long with an ankle injury, usually double teamed and teams often ran to the other side. Just saying some additional scrutiny should be placed on a player's production.

I believe Garrett had 32.5 sacks with 12 coming against SEC competition

Barnett had 32 sacks with 29 against SEC competition.

I am really high on Barnett. He broke Reggie White's records and will be a beast in the NFL
 
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