NFL execs say anonymous reports on Myles Jack overblown, 'disgusting'

[Alexander]

Hey, remember how last year Jay Ajayi was a 2nd Rd prospect before everyone on twitter said teams were highly concerned about his knee? Then we kept hearing how it was a ruse and disgusting and teams were just trying to push him down? Anyone remember what happened on draft day?

I think it is pretty much a common reaction to yell "smokescreen", especially when it is contrary to what you believe.

Yes, it is the draft. People lie. A lot of what you read is false.

But sometimes, especially about something tangible, which a medical is, it could be partially true.

I can't think of many times where there was a player that got medically flagged and it just turned out to be a complete lie.

 

[Plankton]

I think it is pretty much a common reaction to yell "smokescreen", especially when it is contrary to what you believe.

Yes, it is the draft. People lie. A lot of what you read is false.

But sometimes, especially about something tangible, which a medical is, it could be partially true.

I can't think of many times where there was a player that got medically flagged and it just turned out to be a complete lie.

Remember Terence Newman and the nerve damage in his shoulder?

 

[Alexander]

Remember Terence Newman and the nerve damage in his shoulder?

No, I can't say I can recall that.

 

[Plankton]

No, I can't say I can recall that.

Yeah, there were reports that he had nerve damage in his shoulder that could hamper his ability to tackle and play physically, yet he had managed to play 12 years.

 

[NEODOG]

Me thinks a team WANTING him - hope he falls to them.... Would be a prime suspect in all this

 

[Rogerthat12]

Yup. All I'm saying is not to immediately dismiss it as a ploy to get him to drop.

None of that matters, team doctors will confer with each team, some are worried, others are not.

Yet, let us not construe it as a unilateral perspective or interpretation either way.

 

[Alexander]

Yeah, there were reports that he had nerve damage in his shoulder that could hamper his ability to tackle and play physically, yet he had managed to play 12 years.

I see.

Sounds like a phantom condition out of a minor injury. Or at the very least a wild exaggeration.

Jack's knee is no exaggeration.

 

[Alexander]

Me thinks a team WANTING him hope he falls to them.... Would be a prime suspect in all this

{mysterious organ music}

 

[TheFinisher]

Over-reactive nonsense. When a player gets red flagged and it comes out, so what? No report said a thing about him tumbling out of the draft, or falling significantly. It was vague, some teams were okay, some weren't.

If you want to have the feels for someone, pity Jaylon Smith.

The problem is no one knows if the team or "teams" that red flagged him are being honest. There is a major discrepancy when you have a lot of teams coming out saying there are no problems with the knee and then an anonymous report comes out that he has some kind of career threatening knee condition.

In Jaylon Smith's case, everyone knows about the knee and is in agreement.

In Myles Jack's case, there are simply anonymous whispers of a mystery condition that not a single named source has actually come out and said what it is.

When Jack is arguably the #1 player in this class, that smells something rotten.

It appears to be almost like a team is trying to float the rumor out there that "their" doctor found something wrong that "your" doctor didn't see. Doubt that like can linger and alter a team's decision.

 

[Rogerthat12]

The problem is no one knows if the team or "teams" that red flagged him are being honest. There is a major discrepancy when you have a lot of teams coming out saying there are no problems with the knee and then an anonymous report comes out that he has some kind of career threatening knee condition.

In Jaylon Smith's case, everyone knows about the knee and is in agreement.

In Myles Jack's case, there are simply anonymous whispers of a mystery condition that not a single named source has actually come out and said what it is.

When Jack is arguably the #1 player in this class, that smells something rotten.

It appears to be almost like a team is trying to float the rumor out there that "their" doctor found something wrong that "your" doctor didn't see. Doubt that like can linger and alter a team's decision.

Time will tell soon enough, the extreme perspectives seem problematic.

 

[AzorAhai]

I think it is pretty much a common reaction to yell "smokescreen", especially when it is contrary to what you believe.

Yes, it is the draft. People lie. A lot of what you read is false.

But sometimes, especially about something tangible, which a medical is, it could be partially true.

I can't think of many times where there was a player that got medically flagged and it just turned out to be a complete lie.

I agree.

 

[Alexander]

The problem is no one knows if the team or "teams" that red flagged him are being honest. There is a major discrepancy when you have a lot of teams coming out saying there are no problems with the knee and then an anonymous report comes out that he has some kind of career threatening knee condition.

In Jaylon Smith's case, everyone knows about the knee and is in agreement.

In Myles Jack's case, there are simply anonymous whispers of a mystery condition that not a single named source has actually come out and said what it is.

When Jack is arguably the #1 player in this class, that smells something rotten.

It appears to be almost like a team is trying to float the rumor out there that "their" doctor found something wrong that "your" doctor didn't see. Doubt that like can linger and alter a team's decision.

Case in point. You get upset because you think he is the top prospect being smeared.

Something isn't good with his knee. How the individual teams deal with that is their business.

 

[Rogerthat12]

I think it is pretty much a common reaction to yell "smokescreen", especially when it is contrary to what you believe.

Yes, it is the draft. People lie. A lot of what you read is false.

But sometimes, especially about something tangible, which a medical is, it could be partially true.

I can't think of many times where there was a player that got medically flagged and it just turned out to be a complete lie.

Just to be clear, Jack was medically flagged by one team doctor and hence the April recheck, out of 32 teams.

In the case of the recheck, Brugler knew of two teams that were concerned with the knee and this other talk of career threatening is an exaggeration considering other teams are having little problem with the recheck.

To say nothing is wrong could be considered another extreme perspective but considering one team doctor flagged the knee initially out of 32, I can see why others are calling out these reports as suspect.

To me the truth matters, is this a career threatening time bomb as stated by some random guy in Philly or is it a more complex issue simply requiring a few extra months to heal?

Do we have conclusive proof outside of the actual teams of this medically, how many teams have taken Jack off their board in the top 10?

 

[Alexander]

It is probably as has been described before. Like Vilma's knee and it affects his longevity.

 

[Rogerthat12]

It is probably as has been described before. Like Vilma's knee and it affects his longevity.

We have no way of knowing right now and if Jack goes early which I expect, the interpretation seems rather drastic to take such a risk in the top 10 if this were indeed true which is under dispute.

Maybe a team like the Jags are willing to roll the dice, information about the injury will come out about Jack after the draft in all probability so we may know more about who was worried and who was not at that point.

 

[Rogerthat12]

Nice video from the article: http://cbsprt.co/1SYi1ar

 

[Hardline]

Teams interested in Jack will make their decision on taking him from actual medical reports and not rumors.

 

[Stash]

Thanks for posting...still don't want him drafted at 4 to Dallas but don't want the kid to lose out on great money and a lifelong dream either.

I'm right there with you. Don't want the player for Dallas, but nobody should be lying or fabricating rumors and hurting his draft stock, costing him a lot of money.