NFL fans don't cheer for business.

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I'm so sick of everyone saying football is just a business. This cut was just a business decision. Baloney!!!

NFL fans are being left out in the cold with the musical chairs that goes around. I know that with millions of dollars on the line, and making personnel moves seems critical for success. But owners better realize that fans need to be happy, not just the players. The fans pay the bills.

Hey, fans don't cheer for cutting an iconic star, or a key starter because of cap reasons!! They don't whoop and holler... "He could... sign... on... the dotted line!!!" "Franchise Tag! Franchise Tag!, Franchise Tag!!" They don't cheer for multimillion dollar deals or collective bargaining agreements.

No, they cheer for touchdowns and sacks, and hard tackles. They like a team because they have favorite players, and tradition, and feel a connection to the team. People make a team, and owners should strive to keep a cohesive unit together, one that doesn't flip 30% of it's roster every year, one that doesn't do a 90% swapout every 5 years. That's ridiculous!

Owners should start putting the fans first, because the NFL is slipping into more chaos and complexity than ever before. The ship needs to be righted. I can't even buy a jersey anymore. I used to like doing that.
 

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nathanlt;1419315 said:
I'm so sick of everyone saying football is just a business. This cut was just a business decision. Baloney!!!

NFL fans are being left out in the cold with the musical chairs that goes around. I know that with millions of dollars on the line, and making personnel moves seems critical for success. But owners better realize that fans need to be happy, not just the players. The fans pay the bills.

Hey, fans don't cheer for cutting an iconic star, or a key starter because of cap reasons!! They don't whoop and holler... "He could... sign... on... the dotted line!!!" "Franchise Tag! Franchise Tag!, Franchise Tag!!" They don't cheer for multimillion dollar deals or collective bargaining agreements.

No, they cheer for touchdowns and sacks, and hard tackles. They like a team because they have favorite players, and tradition, and feel a connection to the team. People make a team, and owners should strive to keep a cohesive unit together, one that doesn't flip 30% of it's roster every year, one that doesn't do a 90% swapout every 5 years. That's ridiculous!

Owners should start putting the fans first, because the NFL is slipping into more chaos and complexity than ever before. The ship needs to be righted. I can't even buy a jersey anymore. I used to like doing that.

It IS a business. I dont see how you can dispute that. IT would be nice to keep teams together for years, but its just not like that any more. The times have changed, and its not that big of a deal. Also, are you suggesting the fans arent happy or something of the sort? Yet games sell out coast to coast of fans happy to pay money for the tickets, and televised games= people watching (happily) and tons of money being made by everyone involved.
 

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I'll gladly pay you on tuesday for a hamburger today.

Heres a tissue.
 

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I'm not so sure this is as indicative of the NFL as it is society in general. If you want the NFL to change, you'll have to change the world first.

Or, you could stick with college and high school, but they're not perfect either.
 

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nathanlt;1419315 said:
I'm so sick of everyone saying football is just a business. This cut was just a business decision. Baloney!!!

NFL fans are being left out in the cold with the musical chairs that goes around. I know that with millions of dollars on the line, and making personnel moves seems critical for success. But owners better realize that fans need to be happy, not just the players. The fans pay the bills.

Hey, fans don't cheer for cutting an iconic star, or a key starter because of cap reasons!! They don't whoop and holler... "He could... sign... on... the dotted line!!!" "Franchise Tag! Franchise Tag!, Franchise Tag!!" They don't cheer for multimillion dollar deals or collective bargaining agreements.

No, they cheer for touchdowns and sacks, and hard tackles. They like a team because they have favorite players, and tradition, and feel a connection to the team. People make a team, and owners should strive to keep a cohesive unit together, one that doesn't flip 30% of it's roster every year, one that doesn't do a 90% swapout every 5 years. That's ridiculous!

Owners should start putting the fans first, because the NFL is slipping into more chaos and complexity than ever before. The ship needs to be righted. I can't even buy a jersey anymore. I used to like doing that.

I tend to agree with your overall concern. And I think more and more fans will come to feel this way during the coming years.

The good news is that the NFL and the NFL Players Association can address the issue of player movement by tweaking their collective bargaining agreement (to provide some sort of salary cap incentive to teams re-signing their own players).
 

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Its just the way the world is now ...... everyone trying to make as much money as they can ...... no matter the cost.

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zrinkill;1419343 said:
Its just the way the world is now ...... everyone trying to make as much money as they can ...... no matter the cost.

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Now? People have always been this way.
 

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I'm sorry, but we do cheer for the business side of the game. We root for Free Agents to sign. We worry over how much they cost and how it affects the cap and how much cap room is left.

Like it or not the game is more interesting now than it ever has been because it has more nuances to it.

The Draft is a business. Free Agency is a business. Cap cuts are a business. Jersey sales are a business.

Jerry has made it all even bigger business. I for one am glad.
 

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theogt;1419345 said:
Now? People have always been this way.

I just meant there is not as much team loyalty as there was 30 years ago ..... Hey if I had been good enough to be in the NFL .... I would be right there trying to get all the money I could .....

Thats why I do not hold it against these kids .....
 

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zrinkill;1419366 said:
I just meant there is not as much team loyalty as there was 30 years ago ..... Hey if I had been good enough to be in the NFL .... I would be right there trying to get all the money I could .....

Thats why I do not hold it against these kids .....
Was there more loyalty or was there simply no free agency?
 

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Ok, how many of you sat on the couch with chips and dip, cheering on the collective bargaining agreement??

Who cheered the departure of Emmitt Smith?

C'mon, step forward!!
 

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theogt;1419393 said:
Was there more loyalty or was there simply no free agency?

Thats a good question ...... but I see the bond between Ron Springs and Everson Walls even after all these years ..... and wonder.
 

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Hostile;1419348 said:
I'm sorry, but we do cheer for the business side of the game. We root for Free Agents to sign. We worry over how much they cost and how it affects the cap and how much cap room is left.

Like it or not the game is more interesting now than it ever has been because it has more nuances to it.

The Draft is a business. Free Agency is a business. Cap cuts are a business. Jersey sales are a business.

Jerry has made it all even bigger business. I for one am glad.


More interesting?? How about more chaotic and complex? My point is that the owners need to make the business more transparent to the fan, in that players don't change teams. The draft is good, free agency and cap cuts are complete crap. Jersey sales are a declining business, because of the overexposure and lack of value when a player leaves the team.

I bought an Antonio Bryant jersey that is worthless, and the only jersey that has value is Staubach, Randy White, Dorsett, and any other retired career Dallas Cowboy. I can't rely on ANY player for today's roster that will be a career Cowboy. That's WRONG.

What needs to happen, and I DON'T CARE what naysayers respond with, is this:

End Free Agency. Now. All players recieve 1/53 rd of the salary cap. No options for bigger bonuses, no reason to move from team to team, No. Play for the love of the game, and that's it. Those who don't, GOODBYE! For the rest, stay with your team, and develop your skills. That will make the game on the field better. And fans will have favorite players again. Loyalty will be back in the NFL.

The NFL is headed in the wrong direction. Overexposure, instability. Fans will get tired of this in a few years.
 

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Why stop there? Why not call for an end to property rights altogether? We could all live in a Utopian world free of the schackles of greed and money!

Posters of the world unite!
 

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nathanlt;1419420 said:
More interesting?? How about more chaotic and complex? My point is that the owners need to make the business more transparent to the fan, in that players don't change teams. The draft is good, free agency and cap cuts are complete crap. Jersey sales are a declining business, because of the overexposure and lack of value when a player leaves the team.

I bought an Antonio Bryant jersey that is worthless, and the only jersey that has value is Staubach, Randy White, Dorsett, and any other retired career Dallas Cowboy. I can't rely on ANY player for today's roster that will be a career Cowboy. That's WRONG.

What needs to happen, and I DON'T CARE what naysayers respond with, is this:

End Free Agency. Now. All players recieve 1/53 rd of the salary cap. No options for bigger bonuses, no reason to move from team to team, No. Play for the love of the game, and that's it. Those who don't, GOODBYE! For the rest, stay with your team, and develop your skills. That will make the game on the field better. And fans will have favorite players again. Loyalty will be back in the NFL.

The NFL is headed in the wrong direction. Overexposure, instability. Fans will get tired of this in a few years.


First off, you bought a Bryant jersey? Thats just a bad judgement call, and I would hate the cause of this tirade to be the fact that you bought a bad players jersey.

End free agency? You think the Players will agree to this? This is SILLY. Do you want to see the best athletes in the NFL? Getting rid of free agent signings and massively cutting salaries isnt going to attract anyone to a short lived career of abusing their body.

If you really care about this, watch the AFL 2 or something like that, where the guys clearly suck and refuse to give up the dream of making it big.
 

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theogt;1419426 said:
Why stop there? Why not call for an end to property rights altogether? We could all live in a Utopian world free of the schackles of greed and money!

Posters of the world unite!

C'mon... they are a select few millionaires playing a game, living a life of fame... We can stop the experiment there!!
 

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nathanlt;1419432 said:
C'mon... they are a select few millionaires playing a game, living a life of fame... We can stop the experiment there!!
Don't start on that slippery slope down the road to serfdom. ;)
 

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JustSayNotoTO;1419431 said:
First off, you bought a Bryant jersey? Thats just a bad judgement call, and I would hate the cause of this tirade to be the fact that you bought a bad players jersey.

End free agency? You think the Players will agree to this? This is SILLY. Do you want to see the best athletes in the NFL? Getting rid of free agent signings and massively cutting salaries isnt going to attract anyone to a short lived career of abusing their body.

If you really care about this, watch the AFL 2 or something like that, where the guys clearly suck and refuse to give up the dream of making it big.

The NFL can dictate whatever they want. All the backups would cross the picket lines for over a million annual salary. As the ticket sales continue to rise, their million plus income would rise each year. The primadonna showboats can all pack it up... I don't care. And the skills would get better as the players stay with a system and develop in it. The NFL product would be better! Guaranteed.
 

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nathanlt;1419439 said:
The NFL can dictate whatever they want. All the backups would cross the picket lines for over a million annual salary. As the ticket sales continue to rise, their million plus income would rise each year. The primadonna showboats can all pack it up... I don't care. And the skills would get better as the players stay with a system and develop in it. The NFL product would be better! Guaranteed.


Yes, watching backups would be riveting television and would delight fans from coast to coast.:rolleyes:
 
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