NFL Owners Lockout in 2011? Profits are down among many franchises.

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I believe the chances are good that there will be a lockout orchestrated by the NFL owners in 2011. A lot of media attention has been directed at the two extra games the owners want, but the largest issue, by far, is the $1 billion the owners are wanting back from the players to cover declining profits of many teams due to the poor economy. The players have asked the owners to open their books, but the owners have refused. I believe it will be hard for either side to back down on that point. The Cowboys are lucky in that have done better than other teams in the area of profit but Jerry Jones and the other owners always want more and many teams appear to actually need more.

The Green Bay Packers are the only publicly held franchise and their books show a definite downward trend in revenue. Their net profit has declined from approximately $34 million four years ago to under $10 million last year. That $10 million in profit dropped FIFTY PERCENT from the previous year.

The U.S. economic front in 2011 may be more severe than this year so, without changes, the plunge in revenue is likely to continue.

I predict the players will have to give some of the approximate 60% off the top they currently receive from NFL revenue and the owners may prevail.

The NFL hired Bob Batterman, the lawyer who was instrumental in the NHL lockout. The NFL appears to be following his gameplan for renegotiating the NFL Collective Bargaining Agreement. Just like the NHL, the NFL has created a website to track this owner/labor mess (do an internet search for NFL Labor) if you want to see that site.

Also I read that the most recent negotiations between the NFL owners and the TV networks included provisions that guaranteed $4 billion in revenue to the NFL in 2011 even if no games are played. This money would have to be paid back when games resume, but it gives the owners a serious chunk of change to help wait out the players who may not save their money for hard times as they should.

The impending lockout may be a reason why NFL owners, including Jerry Jones, are reluctant to make coaching changes until the fate of the new collective bargaining agreements and the 2011 season is known. Obviously a lockout, or potential lockout, will likely impact individual player contract terms and draft decisions, especially where 2011 cash is concerned.

Of course if the Cowboys' 2010 season keeps resulting in losses a lockout in 2011 may make some fans happy.
 
Actually the economy is getting better at this point.

The top teams for revenue would not include the Packers as far as stadiums.

Commanders, Cowboys, Patriots, and Texans are all in the top ten.

The economy in the GB area has been in trouble for over a decade.
 
kreepy;3673568 said:
The impending lockout may be a reason why NFL owners, including Jerry Jones, are reluctant to make coaching changes until the fate of the new collective bargaining agreements and the 2011 season is known.
Winner winner chicken dinner.
 
SkinsandTerps;3673573 said:
The top teams for revenue would not include the Packers as far as stadiums.

I find that interesting. They supposedly have a waiting list miles long for tickets. I have heard that season tickets are put in final wills and testaments in that area.

One would think they could raise ticket prices if they wanted to. I guess since they are publicly held, they don't care as long as they break even.
 
Don Corleone;3673583 said:
I find that interesting. They supposedly have a waiting list miles long for tickets. I have heard that season tickets are put in final wills and testaments in that area.

One would think they could raise ticket prices if they wanted to. I guess since they are publicly held, they don't care as long as they break even.


Indeed, but what can they charge compared to those other teams ?

Packers fans are die hard, but most of them can not afford to go to the games.
 
Don Corleone;3673583 said:
I find that interesting. They supposedly have a waiting list miles long for tickets. I have heard that season tickets are put in final wills and testaments in that area.

One would think they could raise ticket prices if they wanted to. I guess since they are publicly held, they don't care as long as they break even.

Its not about season tickets per say. Its about luxury boxes, corporate sponsorships, stadium naming rights, etc. Thats where the big money is

The Commanders, Cowboys, Patriots, Eagles, Texans, etc blow away these other teams by miles.
 
SkinsHokieFan;3673666 said:
Its not about season tickets per say. Its about luxury boxes, corporate sponsorships, stadium naming rights, etc. Thats where the big money is

The Commanders, Cowboys, Patriots, Eagles, Texans, etc blow away these other teams by miles.

If you do an internet search on "NFL team revenue 2010" you should be able to find a couple of sites that show revenue, profit, ticket prices, total player costs, etc.

There is a huge difference in Cowboy ticket prices and the prices charged by other teams. Almost 100% difference as I recall but the real money is in other things mentioned and memorabilia.
 
Whenever there are negoations between players and owners, the owners always talk about profits being down and the players always want to see the books....

Yet, the books are never opened. Is there a particular reason for that?
 
too bad they couldn't have had a lockout this year.
 
The economy sucks right now. If they think profits are bad WITH football, they won't know what hit them if there isn't any in 2011.
 
I hope I'm wrong but I foresee a long and bitter struggle and the loss of at least half a season if not the entire season. When greedy people fight each other over your money, you can bet it's going to be brutal and take a while.

Guess I'll have to either watch college football or just find some other interest at least for a while.

In my geezerdom football continues to diminish in importance to me anyway but I will always love the game. Players, coaches, teams and leagues come and go but the game remains and continues to evolve to be changed by future generations and survive them, too. If memories form mountains then football is the Rockies.

If there is no NFL football next year, maybe I'll take that long Pacific NW tour I've been wanting to go on.

Life is good anyway, make the most of it while you can.
 
jimmy40;3673930 said:
too bad they couldn't have had a lockout this year.

Yeah, then get it settled in February and postpone the Superbowl in Dallas 1 year and our new coach leads us to victory.

This sucks, if there is a lockout in 2011 we may not see a winning record on this team until 2012.
 
Jarv;3674004 said:
Yeah, then get it settled in February and postpone the Superbowl in Dallas 1 year and our new coach leads us to victory.

This sucks, if there is a lockout in 2011 we may not see a winning record on this team until 2012.
Does anyone ever consider the loss of jobs and incomes for those that work in or provide services to the stadiums
 
Ozzu;3673702 said:
Whenever there are negoations between players and owners, the owners always talk about profits being down and the players always want to see the books....

Yet, the books are never opened. Is there a particular reason for that?

Because it's not as bad as the owners would like us to think. If the books were fully opened, it would show that there are many teams that are wasting money and not doing everything in their power to increase profits. I like how the article mentions that the Packers "only" made a profit of $10 million. Down from $34 million 4 years ago. They conveniently leave out that the team's worth has increased by over $100 million over the same time frame. If this lockout goes down, I hope fans get their heads out of their butts and realize that the owners are the problem here and the reason we won't have football.
 
craig71;3674139 said:
Bring on the SCABS.

Craig

That only works when the players strike, not when the owners lock them out because they aren't making enough millions.
 
I hope they lock em out for a year or two Kill the union ...and then we can start fresh
 
bracey;3674153 said:
That only works when the players strike, not when the owners lock them out because they aren't making enough millions.

Exactly! bring them on! hey who knows . more heart from a bunch of wannabes...worked for the deadskins why not us
 
jwhardin;3674081 said:
Does anyone ever consider the loss of jobs and incomes for those that work in or provide services to the stadiums


Sucks look for another job, wah wah wah
:cry2: :cry2: :cry2: :cry2: :cry2: :cry2: :cry2: :cry2:
 
ilovejerry;3674157 said:
Exactly! bring them on! hey who knows . more heart from a bunch of wannabes...worked for the deadskins why not us

What are you talking about? You blame the players because the Cowboys' players aren't giving their all this year? You do know that if Jerry doesn't feel he's getting his money's worth, he can cut the players at any time? When we think Jerry's not doing his all to make this team the best it could be, we have no way of getting rid of him.
 

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