NFL Parity

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And the refs are also unwatchable. A lot of phantom calls too.
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I get the offsides and obvious stuff but you see guys holding and never get a call and them there is a holding call. I know that one has been going on for many years.

The only they call alot is that one about defensive holding (I think that's how it's termed). The one that is a 5 yard penalty but an automatic first down. I don't mind the yardage but they should not make that an automatic first down.

Lots to complain about. :mad:
 
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BoysFan4ever said:
I get the offsides and obvious stuff but you see guys holding and never get a call and them there is a holding call. I know that one has been going on for many years.

The only they call alot is that one about defensive holding (I think that's how it's termed). The one that is a 5 yard penalty but an automatic first down. I don't mind the yardage but they should not make that an automatic first down.

Lots to complain about. :mad:
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Why are you on here and not looking into my new car??

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I have problem watching the Walking dead over the Sunday night games, hear that Roger!!! You big turd nugget
 
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Assuming NE wins tonight, there will be only 4 teams in the AFC and 5 teams in the NFC with winning records.

NFL is turning into a big turd.
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It's not really parity in the AFC. The Pats, Bengals, Colts and Denver have won their division 3 years in a row and are now on top of their respective divisions, again (Colts are tied for the top of their division).




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NFL parity is a myth. Sure, the mantra is 'any given Sunday'. And yes, most of these games, no matter whom the matchup is, comes down to the final portion of the 4th qtr. But when it's all said and done, your favorites and blue blood teams are getting to the playoffs. And the biggest common denominator is good QB play. Most people before the season begins can gauge exactly who will be the big players.

Patriots, Packers, Seattle, Denver with Bengals, Cardinals, Panthers coming behind them. These are no surprises.

It's the usual suspects getting to the championship weekend and then the Super Bowl. Last year's championship weekend was pretty much predicted by most sans Colts but they weren't really a come out of nowhere team, though.
 
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Blackspider214 said:
NFL parity is a myth. Sure, the mantra is 'any given Sunday'. And yes, most of these games, no matter whom the matchup is, comes down to the final portion of the 4th qtr. But when it's all said and done, your favorites and blue blood teams are getting to the playoffs. And the biggest common denominator is good QB play. Most people before the season begins can gauge exactly who will be the big players.

Patriots, Packers, Seattle, Denver with Bengals, Cardinals, Panthers coming behind them. These are no surprises.

It's the usual suspects getting to the championship weekend and then the Super Bowl. Last year's championship weekend was pretty much predicted by most sans Colts but they weren't really a come out of nowhere team, though.
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Who are "the usual suspects"? In the past 6 years, 10 different teams have gone to the Super Bowl and 6 different teams have won.
 
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Rogah said:
Who are "the usual suspects"? In the past 6 years, 10 different teams have gone to the Super Bowl and 6 different teams have won.
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Let's have a look at the teams:

2009: Saints vs Colts (Colts been good for years and won the SB 2 years prior. Saints were in the NFC title game a few years before this)
2010: Packers vs Steelers (Steelers were just in the SB 2 years prior. Packers were on their way to building a good solid team)
2011: Giants vs Patriots (both of these teams went in 2007 and Pats have been great for a decade plus)
2012: Ravens vs Niners (went to the AFC title game in the previous year. Same as Niners)
2013: Seahawks vs Broncos (Seahawks up and coming team and were a blown defense from going to the NFC title game year before. Broncos were a favorite since Manning arrived)
2014: Seahawks vs Patriots (Pats were in their 4th straight AFC title game. Seattle in 2nd straight SB and a favorite before season started)

Tell me where the parity is here. All these teams who got here were not out of nowhere and were established teams. And during the season, were on the radar for the Super Bowl.

It's not hard before every season to pick who will be a player. If there was parity, it would be difficult to do this. There are clear distinctions of tiers in this league every year.
 
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Tell me where the parity is here.
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I already did. In the past 6 years, as your own post proves, 10 different teams went to the Super Bowl and there were 6 different winners.

And right now, out of the 4 teams representing the top-2 seeds in each conference, 3 of them are not among the 10 teams listed above.

For comparison:

The last 6 World Series had 4 different winners and 7 different teams.
The last 6 NBA finals had 5 winners and 8 different teams.
The last 6 Stanley Cups had 3 different winners and 8 different teams.

So yeah, 6 different winners and 10 different teams for the Super Bowl is pretty darn impressive.
 
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Rogah said:
I already did. In the past 6 years, as your own post proves, 10 different teams went to the Super Bowl and there were 6 different winners.

And right now, out of the 4 teams representing the top-2 seeds in each conference, 3 of them are not among the 10 teams listed above.

For comparison:

The last 6 World Series had 4 different winners and 7 different teams.
The last 6 NBA finals had 5 winners and 8 different teams.
The last 6 Stanley Cups had 3 different winners and 8 different teams.

So yeah, 6 different winners and 10 different teams for the Super Bowl is pretty darn impressive.
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I think part of the difference you see is due to the structure of the playoffs. MLB and NBA play a series. NHL too, but who cares. In a series, the better team can generally prevail no matter how poorly they play any single game. Play 1 game poorly in the NFL postseason and it's over.

Is anyone taking the Giants in either Superbowl in a best of 7 against the Patriots?

The outcomes of NFL championships are far more dependent on the fluke plays. Ravens going to get 4 miracle bombs at the end of the game to propel themselves to the Superbowl? David Tyree going to catch 4 balls with his helmet to help the Giants win the Superbowl?

Greater influence of the randomness and improbability and less room for error, IMO.
 
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I think part of the difference you see is due to the structure of the playoffs. MLB and NBA play a series. NHL too, but who cares. In a series, the better team can generally prevail no matter how poorly they play any single game. Play 1 game poorly in the NFL postseason and it's over.

Is anyone taking the Giants in either Superbowl in a best of 7 against the Patriots?

The outcomes of NFL championships are far more dependent on the fluke plays. Ravens going to get 4 miracle bombs at the end of the game to propel themselves to the Superbowl? David Tyree going to catch 4 balls with his helmet to help the Giants win the Superbowl?
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Well, that's kind of the point of parity. The teams are so equal that one fluke play is often the difference between winning and losing.

During Dallas' 3 Super Bowl winning seasons of the 90's, they won all 9 playoff games by 10 points or more. But now, every single one of the past 12 Super Bowl champions had at least 1 playoff game (sometimes more) that went down to the wire - and in many cases, it was the Super Bowl itself that went down to the wire. That's the point of parity.
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Greater influence of the randomness and improbability and less room for error, IMO.
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Ah, but the problem with that line of reasoning is that it has not always been that way historically. In the 10 Super Bowls from 21 to 30, which was pretty much the final decade before parity and the salary cap really got started, you had a total of 9 different teams appearing in the Super Bowl and only 4 winners.

That's only 9 different teams and 4 winners appearing in 10 games. Compare that to my above stat which had 10 different teams and 6 different winners in 6 games.
 
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