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With an obliterated D the Cowboys don't deserve that high of a ranking.

:rolleyes: Yeah because the defense was the strength of our team.

I have never seen roleplayers be quite so overrated as I have with our local doomsayers.

Winners plan on how to overcome failure and setbacks. Losers expect and dwell on failure and setbacks.
 

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:rolleyes: Yeah because the defense was the strength of our team.

I have never seen roleplayers be quite so overrated as I have with our local doomsayers.

Winners plan on how to overcome failure and setbacks. Losers expect and dwell on failure and setbacks.
Who is saying anything remotely to that affect? You can't deny the defense has taken a big hit in this offseason FA. Rankings aren't based on plans and this thread isn't addressing winners and losers. I believe the Cowboys FO will overcome the setbacks but until it happens it won't and shouldn't be reflected in the rankings.
 

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Dallas let go of 2 s' who this forum cried about for the past 3 yrs. All of the sudden when theyre gone its a problem.
They got rid of 1 cb who is always injured and another that is in the same category of the 2 s'.
And they didnt resign a guy who is part of a rotation.

Please explain. Or is it you just threw it out there? I see nothing wrong with what they did. They didnt overpay for avg guys.

I see they have young guys along the DL that they feel they want to get more involved. They have a LB who they are excited about and one that is on the verge of becoming a real force(wilson).

They have Scandrick, and a CB that started most of the yr filling in for injured CBs. And i think they draft a S early to go with a good cover S in Heath to go along with a S in Jones who can play anywhere in the secondary.

So they got alot younger on defense by not overpaying for avg guys, is what i see.

I read the same bull all last offseason, and laughed at all of you week by week. Watching the masses get mad because oh how wrong they were about this team. Just because this team doesnt do what you want them to doesnt mean theyre wrong. Maybe its just you dont know what youre talking bout? Thats the problem with fans we think we can do their jobs.
If you are banking on what they have and what they might draft on defense then all you have is hopes and dreams, not reality.

Congrats to the FO for saving so much money. What good does that do when they fail to engaged in FA to acquire effective contributors?
 

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Who is saying anything remotely to that affect? You can't deny the defense has taken a big hit in this offseason FA. Rankings aren't based on plans and this thread isn't addressing winners and losers. I believe the Cowboys FO will overcome the setbacks but until it happens it won't and shouldn't be reflected in the rankings.

Sure I can deny it; its not even hard. I will even demonstrate how one articulates in place of your self assuming declarations.

Carr and Mo were replacement level starters. Church couldn't cover. Wilcox is replacement level.

McClain was inconsistent and already replaced with Thornton and Paea.

Meanwhile our best players in Lee, Jones, Irving, Collins, Crawford, Brown, and Scandrick are all returning. Plus we have Smith, Tapper, and DLaw coming back from injury to provide help before you consider the draft.

You are grandstanding on easily replaceable players who were not difference makers. Heath is the equal of the two S that left for example.
 
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All I see is your attempt to irritate. Fail troll fail.

It might be irritating to you but my point that you make assertions without supporting arguments is still valid. Thus my saying you fail to articulate. It's typical of you.
 

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:rolleyes: Yeah because the defense was the strength of our team.

I have never seen roleplayers be quite so overrated as I have with our local doomsayers.

Winners plan on how to overcome failure and setbacks. Losers expect and dwell on failure and setbacks.

Yea I keep seeing this narrative that the defense was some sort of major weakness. It wasn't.

The team went 13-3 and the offense had just as much to do with the playoff loss.

There is a long way to go before the season but let's stop sticking our heads in the sand. This team isn't as good as it was when the season ended. Hopefully the draft can alleviate some of the losses.
 

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Yea I keep seeing this narrative that the defense was some sort of major weakness. It wasn't.

The team went 13-3 and the offense had just as much to do with the playoff loss.

There is a long way to go before the season but let's stop sticking our heads in the sand. This team isn't as good as it was when the season ended. Hopefully the draft can alleviate some of the losses.

Given the nature of player development and the youth of our team plus players returning from injury I have to disagree.
 

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Sure I can deny it; its not even hard. I will even demonstrate how one articulates in place of your self assuming declarations.

Carr and Mo were replacement level starters. Church couldn't cover. Wilcox is replacement level.

McClain was inconsistent and already replaced with Thornton and Paea.

Meanwhile our best players in Lee, Jones, Irving, Collins, Crawford, Brown, and Scandrick are all returning. Plus we have Smith, Tapper, and DLaw coming back from injury to provide help before you consider the draft.

You are grandstanding on easily replaceable players who were not difference makers. Heath is the equal of the two S that left for example.

Not buying your delusions. Your opinion of Carr, Mo, Church, and Wilcox are just low and not factual. The facts are this... these guys market value now exceeds what the Cowboys can pay. The savings earned by not paying these guys isn't even being reinvested in new effective talent.
Your articulation is filled with bloviation. Wish caster... :lmao2:
 

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It might be irritating to you but my point that you make assertions without supporting arguments is still valid. Thus my saying you fail to articulate. It's typical of you.

You attempt to irritate, but you fail. I articulate when articulation is warranted.
 

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Not buying your delusions. Your opinion of Carr, Mo, Church, and Wilcox are just low and not factual. The facts are this... these guys market value now exceeds what the Cowboys can pay. The savings earned by not paying these guys isn't even being reinvested in new effective talent.
Your articulation is filled with bloviation. Wish caster... :lmao2:

And once again you have nothing to say but baseless assertions. Let's review sentence by sentence:

False characterization of delusions without no examples.

Claim that my opinions are not based on facts with no examples. Meanwhile, Carr struggles to handle underneath routes, Mo cannot stay healthy for even 8 games, Church lacks range, and Wilcox has issues with pursuit angles.

Claim that the market exceeds what the Cowboys could pay with no examples. Meanwhile the Cowboys are over $10m under the cap and are going to see a windfall when Romo comes off the books in coming years.

Assert bloviation and wishcasting with no examples. I suggest introspection. Maybe if you wish hard enough the Cowboys cap space will shrink.

Your arguments are as compelling as a dirty toilet and just as full of crap.
 

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You attempt to irritate, but you fail. I articulate when articulation is warranted.

I said that it might be irritating to you. I never said I was trying to irritate you; wishharder and maybe it will become true.

Instead, I am talking about the roster losses on merit. You are the one with derisive characterizations as the core of your argument.

Oh and this martyr tactic you are trying to pull now.
 

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And once again you have nothing to say but baseless assertions. Let's review sentence by sentence:

False characterization of delusions without no examples.

Claim that my opinions are not based on facts with no examples. Meanwhile, Carr struggles to handle underneath routes, Mo cannot stay healthy for even 8 games, Church lacks range, and Wilcox has issues with pursuit angles.

Claim that the market exceeds what the Cowboys could pay with no examples. Meanwhile the Cowboys are over $10m under the cap and are going to see a windfall when Romo comes off the books in coming years.

Assert bloviation and wishcasting with no examples. I suggest introspection. Maybe if you wish hard enough the Cowboys cap space will shrink.

Your arguments are as compelling as a dirty toilet and just as full of crap.
When you mischaracterize the Cowboys decision to not retain the services of Carr, Mo, Church and Wilcox as based on performance rather than finances you are being delusional. Your habit of attacking the messenger rather than the message is so lame and folks on this board are sick of you.
 

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I said that it might be irritating to you. I never said I was trying to irritate you; wishharder and maybe it will become true.

Instead, I am talking about the roster losses on merit. You are the one with derisive characterizations as the core of your argument.

Oh and this martyr tactic you are trying to pull now.
Troll away
 

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Giants lost three guys from their front 7. Robinson Sheppard and Hankins were all starters on the strength of their team. Dallas lost three starters from their secondary. Would anyone like to argue that was their strength?
 
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If you are banking on what they have and what they might draft on defense then all you have is hopes and dreams, not reality.

Congrats to the FO for saving so much money. What good does that do when they fail to engaged in FA to acquire effective contributors?
Im not banking on anything. Im just going off what they have done and what they did last yr. Why do you fail to listen to what the Jones' have been saying since january? The FO is spending money, they just arent spending it the way you want them to. Get over it because its not gonna change. And actually my view on this is reality because this is what theyre doing. Ur the one thats not realistic on what they plan on doing and have been planning to do.
 

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When you mischaracterize the Cowboys decision to not retain the services of Carr, Mo, Church and Wilcox as based on performance rather than finances you are being delusional. Your habit of attacking the messenger rather than the message is so lame and folks on this board are sick of you.

Speak for yourself. You don't get to speak for "folks on this board."

Performance and finance are not mutually exclusive. They are not worth being paid that much because of their performance or lack thereof. You are the one making it an all or nothing affair.

We have already established they have around $12m in cap space. You have not made a case about finances outside of asserting it is the case. How droll.

You don't argue specifics but instead repeat your drivel.
 

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Rankings are all subjective, and usually with a bit of bias. Power Rankings (as well as this post included) and $1 plus tax, will get to you a cup of coffee at McDonalds, which is better than Starbucks coffee. (hey, need to add some worthless opinions at times on other topics)...LOL..

Now having said that, I think we got screwed in this, we should be at #3....:muttley:
 
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