NFL wants Stealers in SB 50

[thinwhiteduke]

the Steelers lost to Ryan Mallett 2 weeks ago, they ain't winning crap.

they will and are winning all of it

 

[thinwhiteduke]

Look at the last 20 years or so.

There are no dynasties, like in baseball. Teams have gone from worst to first and back again.

The constant is the FO. If an owner, HC, GM, and staff get it figured out, they can have a successful run, with that continuity as a major factor.

The Cowboys had one of the longest winning and playoff streaks in history, but they lost their formula, and it took several years to get it back (with Jimmy).
That broke up, and we've been down ever since, but looked good last year.

Look how long the 49ers were on top -- they've been mostly down since, but hey put something together with Harbaugh and Kaep, and rebounded for a short while.

The difference in the modern capped and schedule-adjusted era is that there isn't as much distance between the top and bottom. Many teams really are just one or 2 players away, but those difference-makers can end up being lost instead of found.

Some of the teams you mentioned are actually not currently dominant; the only one on the list with any sort of run is the Patriots.
Denver has been fairly steady as well. But you take away some of their continuity, like at QB or key coaches, and they start to look more average.

That's what Rozelle wanted -- a bunch of average teams, so that everybody is in every game.
Like it or not, he has mostly achieved the objective.

you dont exactly follow what I refer to. Sure,no one is going to 3 in a row lately but the fact is its still only the same 6 to 8 teams cycling the top and when different teams do make it to the top they still lose to the top 8. The Colts and Steelers and Packers and Giants and Commanders are always in the playoffs whether they win a game when they get there or not which takes a space from all the other teams.

Tebow or Manning or Elway or Morrall? doesnt matter, Denver always gets in.

Dallas always is near the top or in the playoffs too no matter how bad you think theyve been. Even in this bad year, you had no idea they were eliminated till 3 weeks to go.
9 timestheyve been in the playoffs since 95'. .

its the same damn teams cycling up every 3-4-5 years. There is no parity. Its an illusion

 

[Kevinicus]

New England's offensive line is awful. Brady is taking a beating. Denver is infinitely beatable. Dalton is going to try to go, but we'll see. Houston is a joke, and the Kansas City balloon is about to pop.

Yep, I can see the Steelers getting there.

In fact, I think we could see an all wild-card Super Bowl because Seattle looks unstoppable right now.

The Rams disagree.

 

[thinwhiteduke]

erod said: ↑
New England's offensive line is awful. Brady is taking a beating. Denver is infinitely beatable. Dalton is going to try to go, but we'll see. Houston is a joke, and the Kansas City balloon is about to pop.

Yep, I can see the Steelers getting there.

In fact, I think we could see an all wild-card Super Bowl because Seattle looks unstoppable right now.

Seattle doesnt look unstoppable. The look like a team that lost to the Rams and beat a Cardinals team that didnt need to win.
Now they are playing on the Road against a team built just like them

 

[StarBoyz83]

It already sucks they're in the playoffs. now I have one game I can't watch each week until they're out. I'm going to be pissed if the make it to the superbowl. I won't watch it! Plus I'll have a new found hate for the jets and bills and more for the nfl.

 

[Rogah]

It is going to be about 0 degrees Farenheit on Sunday for this game. IMHO, weather like that is the great equalizer. So much of what teams do well just gets thrown out the window at 0 degrees.

 

[Boyzmamacita]

I know that 50 is the golden anniversary, but the black and gold I've seen on some of the logo/graphics pisses me off. I just don't like the Steelers or their fans. Talk about bandwagon. Ooh, I want to wave a yellow rag.

 

[Blackspider214]

It will be Stealers. The AFC is trash. They get AJ Mccaron next weekend. Win. Then they get Denver in Denver. Denver is not that good. Only hope is Chiefs. I hope Chiefs go to the SB.

Unless they get another QB besides Alex Smith, they won't go to the SB.

 

[Shunpike]

I don't know if NFL wants Steelers but when Jets played the Bills, there was zero accepted penalties for the Bills even though they held like crazy. It was obvious NFL didn't want Jets over Steelers. With Steelers there is more money and ratings.

 

[Rogah]

you dont exactly follow what I refer to. Sure,no one is going to 3 in a row lately but the fact is its still only the same 6 to 8 teams cycling the top and when different teams do make it to the top they still lose to the top 8. The Colts and Steelers and Packers and Giants and Commanders are always in the playoffs whether they win a game when they get there or not which takes a space from all the other teams.

Tebow or Manning or Elway or Morrall? doesnt matter, Denver always gets in.

Denver has been in the playoffs every year since Manning arrived. They were in the playoffs only once in the previous 6 years.

The Giants have only been to the playoffs once in the past 7 years (which was a Super Bowl championship).

The Commanders are in the playoffs for only the 2nd time in the past 8 years.

Yes, teams with great QBs make the playoffs. Peyton Manning led teams have been in the playoffs 13 years in a row. 12 years for Brady and 7 for Rodgers.

The past 7 years have seen 7 different Super Bowl champions, 5 different AFC champions and 6 different NFC champions. What more could ever be reasonably expected?!?

 

[thinwhiteduke]

Denver has been in the playoffs every year since Manning arrived. They were in the playoffs only once in the previous 6 years.

The Giants have only been to the playoffs once in the past 7 years (which was a Super Bowl championship).

The Commanders are in the playoffs for only the 2nd time in the past 8 years.

Yes, teams with great QBs make the playoffs. Peyton Manning led teams have been in the playoffs 13 years in a row. 12 years for Brady and 7 for Rodgers.

The past 7 years have seen 7 different Super Bowl champions, 5 different AFC champions and 6 different NFC champions. What more could ever be reasonably expected?!?

dude, you are proving my point. 6-7-8 years is a drop in the bucket and when the colts arent in,the Broncos and steelers are. Its the same rotation over and over.
Its those teams that keep getting the great QBs, thats my point !

 

[thinwhiteduke]

The past 7 years have seen 7 different Super Bowl champions, 5 different AFC champions and 6 different NFC champions. What more could ever be reasonably expected?!?

Patriots, Giants, Packers, Steelers, 4 0f those 7 = . Those arent different teams. Those are the same teams that keep coming back over the 50 years and more.
the Only difference being the Pats but they went twice to the Bowl before they won one too.

the Saints are the only team to make it to a SB and win who arent one of those teams and they played the Colts who always make post season since before the super bowl era.
The Ravens are the one team to have immediate success from their start as opposed to the majority of nfl teams.

 

[Rogah]

dude, you are proving my point. 6-7-8 years is a drop in the bucket and when the colts arent in,the Broncos and steelers are. Its the same rotation over and over.
Its those teams that keep getting the great QBs, thats my point !

6-7-8 years is a drop in the bucket? Can't say I agree with that one.

In the 13 years between Elway and Manning, the Broncos made the playoffs 5 times. That is exactly what you would expect if making the playoffs was a random process.

 

[Rogah]

Patriots, Giants, Packers, Steelers, 4 0f those 7 = . Those arent different teams. Those are the same teams that keep coming back over the 50 years and more.

If you want to go back 50 years, then you only completely destroy the point you are trying to make. You people are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts:

In the 24 seasons from 1968 to 1991, the Packers went to the playoffs twice. Their fortune turned around when they acquired a young QB by the name of Brett Favre.

The NY Giants never even made the playoffs (in the Super Bowl era) until 1981. In the 35 years since then, they have made the playoffs 25 times, which is slightly better than what you would expect if making the playoffs was an entirely random process.

In the 35 years prior to Tom Brady, the Patriots made the playoffs 10 times, which is less than what would be expected if it were an entirely random process.

The Squealers are a team that has been incredibly consistent in making the playoffs over the Super Bowl era, although they did have a 7 year stretch where they only went once.

The Cowboys are another team with tremendous consistency and success in making the playoffs during the Super Bowl era, although the 21st Century has been less kind.

In the past 20 years:

The Rams went from 5 wins to winning the Super Bowl the very next year.
The Patriots went from 5 wins to winning the Super Bowl the very next year.
The Falcons went from 3-13 to a conference championship in just 2 years.
The Panthers went from a 1-15 to conference champions in just 2 years. They also went from 7 wins to 15 wins in just 1 year.
Starting in 2008, the Seahawks won 4 games, 5 games, 7 games and 7 games. 2 years later, they won the Super Bowl.
The New Orleans Saints went from 7 wins to 8 wins to winning the Super Bowl.
The 49ers had 6 wins in 2010. Then they went to the NFCCG each of the next 3 years, winning one of those CCG's.

NFL history is fascinating when

 

[thinwhiteduke]

If you want to go back 50 years, then you only completely destroy the point you are trying to make. You people are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts:

Sir,you still miss the point

The Rams went from 5 wins to winning the Super Bowl the very next year.

the Rams have always made the playoffs since the 1940s. This is currently their longest drought.

The Patriots went from 5 wins to winning the Super Bowl the very next year.

this proves what I said. It doesnt detract from it.and you are foregetting I already said they were in 2 SBs before that

The Falcons went from 3-13 to a conference championship in just 2 years.

and its the only best years theyve ever had. They went to an SB to lose and never have been back before or since.

The Panthers went from a 1-15 to conference champions in just 2 years. They also went from 7 wins to 15 wins in just 1 year.

they went to one SB to lose to the Pats. They never get any further then a couple conference championships.

Starting in 2008, the Seahawks won 4 games, 5 games, 7 games and 7 games. 2 years later, they won the Super Bowl.

in other words theyve only had great success recently since the mid 70s

The New Orleans Saints went from 7 wins to 8 wins to winning the Super Bowl.

they never got that close before and they never will again for another 50 years. One time, they went one time.

The 49ers had 6 wins in 2010. Then they went to the NFCCG each of the next 3 years, winning one of those CCG's.

the Niners have been to the playoffs 24 times since 1970.
they are one of the teams I refer to as always cycling to the playoffs.

the "have not teams".stay "have not teams" year in and year out while the "have" teams keep leap frogging each other back to the top.

 

[thinwhiteduke]

In the 24 seasons from 1968 to 1991, the Packers went to the playoffs twice. Their fortune turned around when they acquired a young QB by the name of Brett Favre.

compare that to 16 teams in the nfl that hardly ever go. They were a successful team from the time they started, had a small 20 year gap and then for the last 20 years they keep making the playoffs again.
theyve been to the playoffs 34 times and won multiple championships in 86 years.
that's making the playoffs on average once every 2.5 or 3 years !!
again, my point,thats being successful all the time in relative terms.

 

[thinwhiteduke]

Lynch isnt playing LOLOLOL

 

[Rogah]

Sir,you still miss the point


the Rams have always made the playoffs since the 1940s. This is currently their longest drought.

What in the heck are you taking about?!? The Rams have been in the playoffs 5 times in the past 26 seasons. How in the world does that equate to "the Rams have always made the playoffs since the 1940's"..??!

 

[Rogah]

compare that to 16 teams in the nfl that hardly ever go. They were a successful team from the time they started, had a small 20 year gap and then for the last 20 years they keep making the playoffs again.

A "small" 20 year gap??!?

 

[thinwhiteduke]

A "small" 20 year gap??!?

compare that to 16 teams in the nfl that hardly ever go. They were a successful team from the time they started, had a small 20 year gap and then for the last 20 years they keep making the playoffs again.
theyve been to the playoffs 34 times and won multiple championships in 86 years.
that's making the playoffs on average once every 2.5 or 3 years !!

the world didnt start when you were born. You have no historic perspective.
The Packers and Rams have always been winning teams on average compared to the majority of the league just like Dallas has been.
they go through a short turn around compared to a majority of the league.